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Michael's web site: Hubble's Satellite Evidence
The next fantasy about evidence is
DEM L71: Supernova Origin Revealed
DEM L71 presents a textbook example of the double-shock structure expected to develop when a star explodes and ejects matter at high speeds into the surrounding interstellar gas.
about the paper
Iron-rich Ejecta in the Supernova Remnant DEM L71
Chandra X-ray observations of DEM L71, a supernova remnant (SNR) in the Large Magellanic Cloud (LMC), reveal a clear double-shock morphology consisting of an outer blast-wave shock surrounding a central bright region of reverse-shock-heated ejecta. The abundances of the outer shock are consistent with LMC values, while the ejecta region shows enhanced abundances of Si, Fe, and other species. ...
So this is what expected from the textbooks, not Michael's fantasy which has no actual numbers for the abundance of elements in any star.

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Michael's web site: Hubble's Satellite Evidence
Chandra has also witnessed ferrite ion emissions from the Capella binary system. For a universe that is presumably iron poor, there sure are a lot of ferrite ion emissions recorded in the Chandra data.
Guess what Michael - stars are not the universe!
The universe is observed to be iron poor because most of the normal matter in it is not in galaxies, let alone stars, and that matter is mostly hydrogen.

It is not a surprise to anyone who can think that when Chandra looks in the part of the spectrum where Fe ions emit light that they detect Fe ions emitting light :doh:!

Stars are where the metals (Li and higher) are created. We (excepting you, Michael) expect them to have a higher metal abundance than the general universe. Capella is a pair of giant stars where enrichment of Fe is expected.

Once again with the ferrite fantasy: Errors in Micheal's site XXI: iron ferrite ions do not exist!

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There is also evidence in Keplar's supernova remnants to suggest the presence of iron, silicon and neon from that exploding sun.
Once again: iron, silicon and neon are expected in all supernova remnants.
Even more: enhanced iron, silicon and neon aabundances re expected in all supernova remnants because the stars have been creating these and other elements.

I guess that the pretty pictures in Kepler's Supernova Remnant: NASA's Great Observatories Provide a Detailed View of Kepler's Supernova Remnant are what imnpressed you :p .

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Basic Methods To Demonstrate A Ferrite Surface Of The Sun Using SOHO Images
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One method relates to solar flares which occasionally "light up" the surface during the flare's discharge. Just such a flare can be seen in the left side of the first grey photo of this page
...sunquakes...
This is flares which occasionally cause the photosphere to "light up" during the flare's erupton. The Sun's surface is plasma. Plasms does not reflect light - it emits light.

Michael's "sunquakes" are simply waves of plasma traveling across the top of the photosphere ans doing what plasma does - reelect around denser regions caused by magnetic fields. To be addressed more fully in a later page analysis.

Michael repeats his denial of basic physics:
Errors in Micheal's site XIV (no mountain ranges in TRACE RD movie)!
Errors in Micheal's site XV (no surface structures in SOHO RD movie)!

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Michael's web site: Hubble's Satellite Evidence
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Gas models all suggest that only a little iron exists at the very core.
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This is real ignorance about the standard solar model which predicts that the trace of Fe that we detect is spread throughout the convection zone (the top 70% of the Sun).
The Fe originally came from the cloud from which the Sun formed so we can look at star forming regions to see what that original abundance of Fe was. This agrees with what we detect.

The fantasy of seeing into the core of the Sun reveals even more ignorance. We can only see about 100 km into the photosphere.

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Since you want a fuller response:

I don't want a "fuller" response, I'd like an honest one.

A) When might I expect you to read a real textbook on plasma physics, or did you intend to live the rest of your hater life arguing from a place of pure ignorance of this topic?

B) Neither you nor GM *EVER* contacted NASA and neither one of you provided a name or an actual quote. All GM did was attribute his *own erroneous statements* to NASA! Pure fraud. No names from NASA.

C) You do not understand plasma physics because you've never read a single textbook on the topic! You apparently *think* you know something about plasma physics, apparently an education you got via pure osmosis. You can't teach plasma physics because you don't know the first thing about it! You don't know that electrical discharges occur in plasma, so you don't know *anything*!

Your only reason for stalking me here to Christianforums is so you can satisfy some *personal* vendetta you have *all over the internet*. What is your problem anyway?

I've never met anyone that links to their own nonsense more than you do. I can't even remember how many times you linked to yourself when I asked you for a reference to support your statements on any topic in dispute. You keep asserting your own falsified nonsense as "truth" even when there is no outside resource that supports you, as the discharge and photon kinetic energy issues demonstrate. All you're doing here is spewing pure hate from a place of pure ignorance.

When can I expect you to actually read a real textbook on the topic of plasma physics, or did you intend to die in a place of bitter hatred and absolute ignorance of PC theory?
 
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Mainstream concepts related to solar elemental abundance figures relate *directly back* to their recently falsified convection speed predictions. Without *fast* convection, there's no way in the universe that wispy thin hydrogen is going to stay mixed together with Nickel and Iron at the surface of the photosphere. In fact the whole concept of non separation of elements has been falsified by those observations of *slow* convection.

You might as well be trying to determine the composition of Earth based upon the concentration of elements you find in the Earth's atmosphere! RC: "Oh look, the whole Earth is made of oxygen, nitrogen and carbon, and just a few "trace" heavy elements"!

Oy Vey!
 
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All of your elemental abundance numbers and assumptions are all based upon a single (and now falsified) premise. The mainstream *assumed* all elements stay nicely mixed together due to *fast* convection. SDO however demonstrated that there is no *fast* convection, not even a *medium* speed convection, but rather a convection speed that is literally about 1% of *assumed* value.

I might as well be trying to teach my cat quantum mechanics than teach you anything about plasma physics or solar physics, because you read a book on plasma physics!
 
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FYI RC, I suppose I should thank you for driving traffic to my website. Since you started spamming the board with links to my website, my traffic has increased noticeably. Cool! :)
Yes - it is alway nice to expose crank physics web sites to the laughter of people on the internet :p !
 
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I don't want a "fuller" response, I'd like an honest one.
You got a full and honest reponse.
And here is another full and honest reponse

A) You are lying - I know about plasma physics from my university education and what I have read since then.
You though have read some plasma physics textbooks and remain ignorant of some basics, e.g. that the opacity of the photosphere means that no light is emitted from thousands of kilometers below it.

Of course the only bit of "plasma physics" (which is not plasma physics :doh:)that we have really debated is:
Claim 1: Actual electrical discharges are impossible in plasma (unless you do a ridiculous quote mining of Peratt's definition)! Claim 2: The 'electrical discharge' term used in MR (various papers) is Dungey's large current density (not really a discharge :doh:) and is obsolete!
where you make multiple mistakes:
11th January 2011: Do you know the difference between a title and a definition?
He does not (see above!)

So will Michael understand that there is no discussion or examples of electrical discharges in plasma in Peratt's book or any other textbook anytime in the next 3 years :D?
5th February 2011: Why does Peratt's page talk about aurora and lightning?
And
7th December 2010: Where are Peratt's many pages of the physics and mathematics of electrical discharges?

Peratt is not the only scientist who has ever existed so:
26th September 2011: Where is the discussion of 'electrical discharges in plasma' in any textbook?

B): You are lying because GM states that he did contact NASA:
A JREF poster asked the SDO team what they did to get the image:
4th May 2010 I (GeeMack) have contacted the SDO science team at NASA ...
I have contacted the SDO science team at NASA and have received word back on the image that occupied pretty much all of Michael's attention for the past week. Since he first started crowing about his discovery, over a thousand posts have gone by. During that time Michael has been insulting, belligerent, ignorant of relevant questions, badgering, uncivil, and treated pretty much everyone in this discussion like crap.

Here's the word straight from NASA. When they map the color values, the behavior of the pixels outside the limb is treated differently than the portion of the image over the disk. A gradient filter is applied to the image so the off-disk area will be enhanced to bring out details. That filter causes a discontinuity at the apparent limb because of a slight inequality of the radius of the filter and the solar image.

The green line is there because of the processing.




The idiocy of Michael analyzes a public relations image that has a processing artifact! does not rely only GeeMack contacting NASA. It is
  • You have no idea what was done to that public relations image.
  • You cherry picked that public relations image - there is no green line in any of the other first light public relations images.
  • You have found no green lines in any other image from any other image taken of the Sun.
  • You seem too afraid to contact the SDO NASA team to see what that green line actually is in that public relations image.
C) I do not need to read a plasma physics textbook to see how badly you understand plasma physics. Anyone who can Google can see that you are ignorant of plasma physics, e.g. opacity.
I will not waste my time unless we get to actually discuss plasma physics rather than the trivial topic of electrical discharges - which by the way is not plasma physics :doh:!
 
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Any one with high school physics (second law of thermodynamics + temperature of the Sun) can see that Michael's iron surface idea is a fantasy:
8th July 2009: Your hypothetical solid iron surface has been in thermal contact with at least one object that has consistently had a temperature large enough to vaporize iron for about 4.57 billion years.
17th April 2010: Why this iron crust thermodynamically impossible
17th April 2010: Iron Sun Surface Thermodynamically Impossible IV

Michael's idea predicts that the Sun has no central energy source (and is thus hollow)!

Michael keeps on insisting that the body of the Sun is the same as its atmosphere and so the cooling that is observed with decreasing depth in the atmosphere should continue into the body. The main probelm is his ignorance - the atmosphere has a temperature minimum of 4000 K which is cooler than the solar body.
From JREF's Ziggurat: 17th April 2010: I've explained to you MANY times why you're totally wrong about this. ...
This boils down to the simple fact that the photosphere is different from the corona! So no one should expect them to act exactly the same.
Dating from 26th September 2010: Solar temperatures increase with depth thus no iron surface!

But he has a web site which really displays the limitations of his idea :D !
Starting with an obviuosly flawed act:
Michael analyzes a public relations image that has a processing artifact :doh:!!!!
This deserves a Duh!!!! because Michael had and still has no idea what was done to the public relations image to make it pretty. He cherry picked the first light public relations image - there is no 'green line' in the other first light public relations images. He has never found that 'green line' in any other image of the Sun - not even a public relations image!

17 Errors in Michael's site on the first page alone!
Including the obvious delustiuon that light is emitted from under the photosphere, e.g. How can we detect the less than 1 photon per year from your iron crust?
First asked 24 April 2010

The rest of Michael's web site has a lot of repeats of his unsupported assertions (fantasies) on the first page but also many more new errors.

8 errors in The Birkeland Solar Model
Errors in Michael's site XVIII (solar model explains lots)!
Errors in Michael's site XIX (the Galileo gambit :), etc.)!
Errors in Michael's site XX: an observation confirming the standard model!
Errors in Michael's site XXI: iron ferrite ions do not exist!
Errors in Michael's site XXII: Batteries do not "release free protons and electrons"!
Errors in Michael's site XXIII: the photosphere is easily understood!
Errors in Michael's site XXIV: The light we see is not from neon
Errors in Michael's site XXV: gooey, insulating Si and crusty Ca layers do not exist!
Michael's web site: Galileo observed light from below the photosphere "surface"!

14 Errors in Hubble's Satellite Evidence
Errors in Michael's site XXVI: Fallacy of false dichotomy
Errors in Michael's site XXVII: Bunnies in the clouds yet again
Michael's site: Misinterpretation of the Big Bang as an explosion of matter!
Michael's site: No colliding stars! Predicted starburst galaxy activity!
Michael's site: Iron has been around for 11 billion years - Duh!
Michael's site: Cassiopeia A = standard stellar structure!
Michael's site: DEM L71 = textbook example!
Michael's site: Cassiopeia A has an active neutron star. So what?
Michael's site: stars (Capella binary) are not the universe!
Michael's site: iron, silicon and neon are expected in all supernova remnants!
Michael's site: Dr. Oliver Manuel was wrong!
Michael's site: Repeating errors and denying the science
Michael's site: Ignorance of gas models - Fe throughout convection zone
Michael's site: a lie about the origin of the fast solar wind in coronal funnels!
Micheal's site: observations confirm the amount of neon needed for the solar model!

6 Errors in Running Difference Imaging
This is Michael repeating his fanatsies about RD processing magically moving flares below the photosphere.
Errors in Michael's site VI (RD processing does not move original images)!
Errors in Michael's site XIV (no mountain ranges in TRACE RD movie)!
Errors in Michael's site XV (no surface structures in SOHO RD movie)!
Errors in Michael's site VII (Sun rotates non-uniformly)!
Errors in Michael's site XXI: iron ferrite ions do not exist!
FYI: The physics that features in the solar atmosphere would rotate at the same velocity as the photosphere was first described by Hannes Alfvén: Hannes Alfvén (1942). "Remarks on the Rotation of a Magnetized Sphere with Application to Solar Radiation". Arkiv for Matematik, Astronomi oct Fysik 28A (6): 1–9.
Michael's web site: Making running difference images is actually relatively simple.

7 errors in Sunquakes, etc.
Michael's web site: Minor point of not defining a sunquake
Michael's web site: Sunquakes are no mystery!
Michael's web site: Sunquakes never cause a solar flare - solar flares can cause them!
Michael's web site: The usual fantasies!
Michael's web site: 4800 kilometers of plasma magically part!
Michael's web site: Ignorance of the location of sunspots (top of photosphere)!
Michael's web site: 'I see bunnies in the clouds' about sunquakes!

Shockwaves, etc.
Michael's web site: 'I see bunnies in the clouds' about shockwaves!

A Tsunami In The Photosphere Of The Sun
Michael's web site: some general non-science about the Sun
Michael's web site: ignorance about the origin of sunspots!
Michael's web site: ignoring the expert (Dr. Kosovichev)!

Solar Moss: The Smoking Gun
Michael's web site: Solar moss is thousands of kilometers above the photosphere
Michael's web site: Usual delusions of ferrite ions, light from below the photosphere
Michael's web site: his iron surface is now the transition region!
Michael's web site: more 'I see bunnies in the clouds' in more solar images
Michael's web site: soft x-rays in solar flares originate from electrons

The Sun - Assumptions, Observations And Early Interpretations
Michael's web site: his misconceptions from a stance of ignorance
Michael's web site: stratification of plasma exists UNDERNEATH the photosphere
Michael's web site: the transition region 'floats' above the chromosphere
Michael's web site: Kosovichev (2005) is not about the transition region
Michael's web site: Hotter plasma is lighter than cooler plasma
Michael's web site: no calcium ferrite layer so no problem
Michael's web site: 171 A image dark areas = no light from plasma!
Michael's web site: A black body is .... black!

That is most of Michael's web site and enough to show that his ignorance and denial of physics has lead to the construction of a web of fantasies about the Sun. Michael's inability to recognoze his mistakes is suggestive of the Dunning–Kruger effect, e.g.Michael does not know the difference between a plasma and a solid (comet nucleus) where Michael cites a paper to support 'electrical discharges' in plasma but is actually about electrical discharges in comet nuclei!

More of Michael's ignorance/denial of solar physics makes his interpretations so baseless as to be fantasies: Science that Michael displays ignorance of or just denies!
Michael does not know the difference between a plasma and a solid (comet nucleus)!
Michael cannot understand that an abstract is not the paper!
Michael cites papers that state that solar flares are magnetic reconnection, thus debunking his own idea!
 
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The European Space Agency also announced a recent discovery by Eckart Marsch and Chuanyi Tu that suggests that solar wind originates in coronal funnels that begin just underneath the surface of the visible photosphere.
...followed by fantasies about coronal funnels...
The link actually says:
Solar Wind Origin in Coronal Funnels (2005)
A Chinese-German team of scientists have identified the magnetic structures in the solar corona where the fast solar wind originates. Using images and Doppler maps from the Solar Ultraviolet Measurements of Emitted Radiation (SUMER) spectrometer and magnetograms delivered by the Michelson Doppler Imager (MDI) on the space-based Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) of ESA and NASA, they observed solar wind flows coming from funnel-shaped magnetic fields which are anchored in the lanes of the magnetic network near the surface of the Sun.
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The fast solar wind seems to originate in coronal funnels with a speed of about 10 kms-1 at a height of 20 000 km above the photosphere".
The article makes it clear that the fast solar wind starts 20,000 km above the photosphere.
Thus Michael is lying about this origin being below the photosphere.

This observation shows that the previous theory about the fast solar wind originating from just above the photosphere was wrong.
What is new here is the discovery that these flows start in coronal funnels, which have their foot points located at the edges of the magnetic network. Just below the surface of the Sun there are large convection cells. Each cell has magnetic fields associated with it, which are by magneto-convection concentrated in the network lanes, where the funnel necks are anchored. The plasma, while still being confined in small loops, is brought by convection to the funnels and then released there, like a bucket of water is emptied into an open water channel.
 
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Scientists have recently been surprised to find an abundance of neon in stars and an abundance of neon in our our sun.
ASA's Chandra Neon Discovery Solves Solar Paradox
The accepted amount of neon in the sun has led to a paradox. The predicted location and size of the solar convection zone disagree with those deduced from solar oscillations. Solar oscillations is a technique astronomers previously relied on to probe the sun's interior. Several scientists have noted the problem could be fixed if the abundance of neon is in fact about three times larger than currently accepted.

Attempts to measure the precise amount of neon in the Sun have been frustrated by a quirk of nature; neon atoms in the Sun give off no signatures in visible light. However, in a gas heated to millions of degrees, neon shines brightly in X-rays. Stars like the sun are covered in this super-heated gas that is betrayed by the white corona around them during solar eclipses. However, observations of the sun's corona are very difficult to analyze.
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These Chandra results reassured astronomers the detailed physical theory behind the solar model is secure. Scientists use the model of the sun as a basis for understanding the structure and evolution of other stars, as well as many other areas of astrophysics.
(emphasis added)

How much neon does Michael's idea predict in stars? The answer is easy - there is no prediction because all he has no numbers so his idea is useless :doh:!
 
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Michael's idea predicts that the Sun is hollow and has no energy source!
I noticed that you ignored this little 'prediction' of your idea.
Prediction is in quotes because your idea is scientifically useless since it has no mathematics or numbers behind it and makes no real predictions!

ETA: This needs more explanation.
Michael's idea is bascally Oliver Manual's insanely wrong idea (Michael's site: Dr. Oliver Manuel was wrong!), i.e. the Sun sorts plasma into layers by atomic mass + the Sun is powered by a neutron star.
Michael removed the neutron star.
Michael removed the power source of the Sun :wave:!

Michael places all of the hydrogen in the Sun on the outside of the Sun. So there can be no fusion of hydrogen powering the Sun. But we detect the neutrinos from that fusion.

Michael's idea includes that within his imaginary solid iron surface are layers of even heavier elements, e.g. cobalt, osmium, gold, lead, etc. According to his logic, these will be solid (otherwise they would melt his imaginary solid iron surface). For example cobalt has a boiling point of 3200 K. So if these layers fill up the Sun then its mass will be much greater than 1 solar mass. Thus the Sun is hollow.

According to his fantasies though these layers will be plasma and his imaginary solid iron surface will magically remain solid. In that case Michael needs to support his idea by calculating the mass of the Sun. This will be a bit of a problem for Michael since his idea is scientifically useless (not even a hypothesis!). The big problem that for Michael will be explaining how there is plasma without a central power source.
 
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You got a full and honest reponse.
And here is another full and honest reponse

You never did answer question A)

A) You are lying - I know about plasma physics from my university education and what I have read since then.
You've never read a textbook on the topic of plasma physics, so your university education has nothing to do with it. When are you going to read a book on *this* topic RC?

You though have read some plasma physics textbooks
Yes, about a half dozen of them now if you include Langmuir's writings. You've read zero!

and remain ignorant of some basics, e.g. that the opacity of the photosphere
This is not a 'basic' of plasma physics. It's a *falsified* claim from a completely different (mainstream) solar theory. You can't understand "basic" issues related to plasma physics from *basic* claims about *other* solar models! I might as well be trying to teach my cat quantum mechanics.

means that no light is emitted from thousands of kilometers below it.
That now falsified claim has *nothing* do with a *Birkeland solar model*.

Of course the only bit of "plasma physics" (which is not plasma physics :doh:)that we have really debated is:
It's directly related to your ignorance of basic plasma physics. If you knew the first thing about it, you'd have gotten off your bigoted and ignorant high horse two years ago. 7 different authors all demonstrate you don't know the first thing about plasma physics, not even *basic* concepts!

B): You are lying because GM states that he did contact NASA:
GM did *not* provide any names, and he stuffed his own false claims about the image in their mouth! What was the name of the individual GM spoke to, an what *exactly* was his quote? Lying about contacting NASA is pure nonsense. If you can't produce a name and an exact quote, you're both just making it up!

I know for a fact that NASA understands that the green color of the horizon is directly related to the color assignments of the iron ion wavelengths, and it has *nothing* to do with the a green gradient filter. NASA isn't that stupid.

C) I do not need to read a plasma physics textbook to see how badly you understand plasma physics.
Yes, you do. You so *badly* understand the ideas you *think* everyone else does. Whom shall I believe, a guy that works at Los Alamos and who writes books on plasma physics, or some retired IT guy that hasn't ever studied the subject of plasma physics and who *refuses* to do so even after *years* of claiming to know more about this subject.

Anyone who can Google can see that you are ignorant of plasma physics, e.g. opacity.
Anyone that can Google can see that specific solar model *assumptions* are not "plasma physics". They are solar theory issues related to a specific solar theory, one that was already falsified by SDO.

I will not waste my time unless we get to actually discuss plasma physics rather than the trivial topic of electrical discharges - which by the way is not plasma physics :doh:!
Electrical discharges are the cause of high particle release in solar flares. If you can't handle *basic* concepts in a Birkeland solar model you have no business discussing it at all. Since you haven't read a book on plasma physics, and you refuse to do so, what's the point of discussing at topic you hate, and know nothing about?
 
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40 errors on the first 3 pages + a totally ignorant analysis of a public relations image.

Considering how badly you mangled Peratt's simple definition of an electrical discharge in cosmic plasmas, it's a miracle you didn't find *80* various items you didn't understand or agree with. Only 40? Really? Considering how little you *actually* understand about plasma physics, that's unusually low. ;)
 
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