There are many things that we all believe that are not "evidenced in reality."
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There are many things that we all believe that are not "evidenced in reality."
Also, don't feel too bad about calling me nonsensical, a certain degree of confusion is inevitable when calling into question the nature of reality... I'm glad even to have stated that, myself.
What on earth are you talking about? Really?Where in your statement are you giving God the opportunity to actually be God???
There is nothing stopping him from doing the same now. Nothing. At all.
There is no reason why he cannot show himself, besides these vague convoluted cop-outs and rabbit-trails that the religious give as some sort of weird attempt at philosophy.
No, there are not.
In response to my "There are many things that we all believe that are not 'evidenced in reality.'"
Really?
Do you love your mother? Your father? Anyone?
Do you believe anyone loves you?
What evidence can you give me for any of that?
Do you believe that you will be alive tommorow? Made any plans?
What evidence do you have that you will be alive tommorow?
No. No. Yes.In response to my "There are many things that we all believe that are not 'evidenced in reality.'"
Do you love your mother? Your father? Anyone?
Not unless it´s evidenced in their behaviour.Do you believe anyone loves you?
Did you want to show that you believe in stuff that isn´t evidenced, or did you want to show that I believe in stuff that isn´t evidenced?What evidence can you give me for any of that?
I believe there´s a good chance I will be alive tomorrow, and there´s good evidence for this chance.Do you believe that you will be alive tommorow?
Yes. Your point?Made any plans?
You mean evidence for having a good chance to survive until tomorrow that I regard sufficient to make plans for the case I will live tomorrow?What evidence do you have that you will be alive tommorow?
A pretty good estimation.Prior experience and experience of the behaviour of others. It gives a pretty good estimation.
Usually you believe somone loves you even though there is no real, tangible proof.
A pretty good estimation.
I agree, an estimation however is not good evidence because you cannot know what is really going on in someone elses head. They can say they love you, they can buy you stuff, they can snuggle and cuddle and they can be smoochy and goochy, but inside they could just be tolerating you. If that were the case, you may be able to sense it, to feel it.
Usually you believe somone loves you even though there is no real, tangible proof.
Again: Why would I have to prove this to you? I didn´t ask you to believe it, and I don´t expect you to believe it without evidence.OK, so you claim that you love someone. How would be able to prove that? What is your evidence?
A pretty good estimation.
I agree, an estimation however is not good evidence because you cannot know what is really going on in someone elses head. They can say they love you, they can buy you stuff, they can snuggle and cuddle and they can be smoochy and goochy, but inside they could just be tolerating you. If that were the case, you may be able to sense it, to feel it.
Usually you believe somone loves you even though there is no real, tangible proof.
Why? My posts seem to be in line with what we are discussing here.You're being quite silly right now. Really.
Why? My posts seem to be in line with what we are discussing here.
The point is, and I alluded to this in my earlier post, that in many cases the proof for reality is only relevant to the observer. The proof of your love for your friend is only relevant to her, and the proof of her love for you is only relevant to you. It has no relevance for me or anyone else. But in many ways the same can be said for reality itself, because in the final analysis that is all that really matters to us as individuals. We only experience the universe through the lens of our senses, and with the reason in our own minds. Others can influence the way we think, no doubt, your friend because of what you share with her can convince you of her love. In the end, reality is going to take on the the attributes of our perception.
If you say you believe your friend loves you, how would I know otherwise?
If Gottservant says he is in communion with his God, who am I to say otherwise?
I hate it when that happens. You know I just spent about 15 minutes of my time (valuable to me) answering your post in what seemed like a fairly reasoned discussion untill I saw your little droppings at the end.
Now, are you going to stop sulking and actually respond to the points I raised, or not?
That must mean all folktale creatures exist. There are Icelanders, and even some of the older generation of Swedes, who still believe in gnomes and trolls. I guess they must exist too, or how else would anyone be able to believe in them?
eudaimonia,
Mark
Your trying to box God into one state of mind, your thinking which cannot be done. Thus it baffles you that it is beyond your comprehension, so anything that is beyond comprehension you toss to the side. If you were an open minded individual you would know that Christianity is the only religion that talks and supports the first and second law of thermodynamics, all the truth and pieces are there. It comes down to if your willing to try and understand. We get tid bits of knowledge of God, if your looking for everything at once your going to fall on your face like Isaac did. You must put forth the same effort that your wanting to get out....you reep what you sew.My method is science. God fails that test.
If you are suggesting a far more subjective and psychological method, I would never be able to trust the results, since what "answers back" may simply be my own subconscious. There is no point in entertaining such methods.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Huh?
No, I won't. I'll meet what everyone else has met, which is an aspect of their own minds.
Everyone just dies.
eudaimonia,
Mark