Hello, everyone, I'm new here

[RoseGreen]

Hello, everyone, I'm new here.I am not an atheist, but not God as supreme.I think God is a form of life, as the world's cats and dogs, then, God was also the world's.
Yes, I am not a Christian. But I am a Christian as my brothers and sisters. I am more than my peers understand Christianity.
I am willing to be everyone's friend, I respect other people's 14-year-old Chinese girl. You can call me Rosegreen, also can be referred to my Chinese name: xiao xiao

 

[Redac]

Welcome.

 

[RoseGreen]

Welcome.

Thank you.My English is not good, please be magnanimous

 

[Resha Caner]

Thank you.My English is not good, please be magnanimous

Your English is much better than my Chinese, which I don't speak at all. It is admirable that you make the effort.

 

[bling]

Thank you for commenting.

Have you met any Christians that are part of what we call the underground Christian Church in China?


What do you know about Christianity?

I responded on your other tread, but could easily talk with you here. I very much want to know more about you. My son is going to Beijing next month to meet his girlfriend’s family to ask for her hand in marriage. I have ties to Christians in China, but they do not want me to make it public. I also work with people here that are working with the Minister of Religion in China to try to take the next step to improve the Government sponsored Christian Church (it has improved but it is still like a social club).

 

[RoseGreen]

Thank you for commenting.

Have you met any Christians that are part of what we call the underground Christian Church in China?


What do you know about Christianity?

I responded on your other tread, but could easily talk with you here. I very much want to know more about you. My son is going to Beijing next month to meet his girlfriend’s family to ask for her hand in marriage. I have ties to Christians in China, but they do not want me to make it public. I also work with people here that are working with the Minister of Religion in China to try to take the next step to improve the Government sponsored Christian Church (it has improved but it is still like a social club).

In a secular state, religion should be managed, so I do not support the underground church

 

[Eudaimonist]

Thank you.My English is not good, please be magnanimous

I see magnanimity as a virtue. I hope that you can understand my English. I know that it is difficult to learn a new language.

Welcome, and I hope that you enjoy your time here. I look forward to seeing your posts.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Dave Ellis]

Welcome to the Forums! I hope you enjoy your time here.

 

[bling]

In a secular state, religion should be managed, so I do not support the underground church

Jesus had a very different answer. The Jewish Spiritual leaders came to Him, knowing He could not give an answer that would not get him in big trouble with the people (the people were dead against paying taxes to Rome) or the Imperialist Government of the time controlling Jerusalem at the time (saying you should not pay the tax could get him killed by the Romans).

Here is the verses in the Bible and the unbelievable wisdom in Jesus’ answer:

Mark 12: 13 Later they sent some of the Pharisees and Herodians to Jesus to catch him in his words. 14 They came to him and said, “Teacher, we know that you are a man of integrity. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not? 15 Should we pay or shouldn’t we?”
But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” 16 They brought the coin, and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription“Caesar’s,” they replied.
17 When Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

And they were amazed at him.

 

[Dave Ellis]

In a secular state, religion should be managed, so I do not support the underground church

I disagree.... In a secular state government should stay out of sanctioning or discouraging religious belief.

That being said, that freedom extends to people, and churches having the freedom to believe what they want to believe. They do not have the right to act how they want to act, especially when it comes to trampling civil rights.

 

[RoseGreen]

I see magnanimity as a virtue. I hope that you can understand my English. I know that it is difficult to learn a new language.

Welcome, and I hope that you enjoy your time here. I look forward to seeing your posts.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Nice to meet you

 

[RoseGreen]

Welcome to the Forums! I hope you enjoy your time here.

Thank you

 

[RoseGreen]

Jesus had a very different answer. The Jewish Spiritual leaders came to Him, knowing He could not give an answer that would not get him in big trouble with the people (the people were dead against paying taxes to Rome) or the Imperialist Government of the time controlling Jerusalem at the time (saying you should not pay the tax could get him killed by the Romans).

Here is the verses in the Bible and the unbelievable wisdom in Jesus’ answer:

Mark 12: 13 Later they sent some of the Pharisees and Herodians to Jesus to catch him in his words. 14 They came to him and said, “Teacher, we know that you are a man of integrity. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not? 15 Should we pay or shouldn’t we?”
But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” 16 They brought the coin, and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription“Caesar’s,” they replied.
17 When Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

And they were amazed at him.

My English is bad, can not read

 

[RoseGreen]

I disagree.... In a secular state government should stay out of sanctioning or discouraging religious belief.

That being said, that freedom extends to people, and churches having the freedom to believe what they want to believe. They do not have the right to act how they want to act, especially when it comes to trampling civil rights.

China to respect people's religious beliefs.China has a legitimate church, instead of the underground church.

 

[Dave Ellis]

China to respect people's religious beliefs.China has a legitimate church, instead of the underground church.

Well, to be honest... if they respected everyone's religious beliefs they'd allow people to follow whatever religion they want to. There wouldn't be a need for any church to be underground.

 

[RoseGreen]

Well, to be honest... if they respected everyone's religious beliefs they'd allow people to follow whatever religion they want to. There wouldn't be a need for any church to be underground.

China has its own national conditions, their own arrangements

 

[Dave Ellis]

China has its own national conditions, their own arrangements

Yeah, I'm aware of the situation over there.... I was just making the observation that if they had true religious freedom, then there wouldn't be any need for underground churches and whatnot.

 

[RoseGreen]

Yeah, I'm aware of the situation over there.... I was just making the observation that if they had true religious freedom, then there wouldn't be any need for underground churches and whatnot.

China has a lot of religion, monotheistic exclusivity against other religions, so it is necessary to control

 

[Dave Ellis]

China has a lot of religion, monotheistic exclusivity against other religions, so it is necessary to control

Right, but the point I'm making is that it's not truly free. People don't have the choice to join any religion they want to and expect equal treatment.

 

[RoseGreen]

Right, but the point I'm making is that it's not truly free. People don't have the choice to join any religion they want to and expect equal treatment.

There are many religious people, they are free to choose their own religious beliefs.China's website, you can often see the debate between all religions.