Is there such a thing as a Jezebel spirit?

[Alive_Again]

Some telltale traits of Jezebel spirits are their manipulative tendency to exercise influence and control that is obviously contrary to the plan and order of God. Many times aging mothers exercise witchcraft via Jezebel spirits by manipulating their children's lives contrary to the plan of God. They elicit sympathy and exhibit a form of helplessness that appeals to the sense of human compassion that seems to make sense, but the fruits do not bear out.

Being out of divine order is often very recognizable and doesn't take a detective to surmise that Jezebel is at work.

I've seen it operating at work and it often works within a female to form a consensus among concerned parties to further its agenda.

It "assumes" authority that it does not have. It almost always has an "Ahab" spirit that abdicates its authority and enables Jezebel to work its destructive process. It manipulates the real authority and will often portray itself as being very friendly and cooperative. It tries to influence opinion and gossip is often a major sign of a Jezebel.

The person giving place to the Jezebel probably doesn't realize what she is doing, and they'll cry out when they receive deliverance as though they are being tortured and abused. Don't fall prey to human compassion. It is so often manipulated to keep Jezebel in power.

There is a spirit of judgment upon the Ahab figure for not exercising authority and others will suffer who are party to it.

The person hosting Jezebel will often be well liked by some and may be hated by others. The sugar is part of the deception. The "2 face" thing working to bring someone else down, with the second face being the Jezebel.

Often someone is the object of great scorn and hatred.

 

[Buckley4U]

See Revelation 2:20 about the toleration of 'that woman Jezebel,' many years after the Bible character Jezebel had died.

Evil spirits are usually named after their function, like infirmity or divination. So a Jezebel spirit would be a demon that led people to behave like Jezebel did in the Bible - controlling, dominating, manipulative, corrupt, murderous, and having a furious hatred and jealousy of anyone who is gifted in the Holy Spirit.

May the Lord have mercy on us in these perilous times!

 

[melindarella]

It is the spirit of witchcraft and idolatry, and idolatrous worship. It is the spirit of false prophecy, false prophets, and false religion. It is the spirit of suicide/murder. It is the spirit of mixture. The Holy with the profane. It is the spirit of anti-christ. Study Jezebel of old and what all of her characteristics were and you will see the spirit that Jesus is speaking of in the book of Revelation. It is the spirit that has set itself up in the Pentecostal church--big time. We need to kick it out. The Lord admonishes us to. How do we do that. By holding manifestations/prophecy/ to the Word of God. When there is a false prophet in our midst, we don't allow that person to continue being a leader in our church and you know who I mean, yes you do. When there are false manifestations in our church we need to call people on it/and remove those who are bringing in seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. There should be nothing done that is not clearly shown in scripture as there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
We have enough problem obeying the old without trying to move in the new.
Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
Everything about everything is in the Bible. I know, I was deceived, I was led astray and I was almost shipwrecked. This spirit is destroying the Pentecostal/charismatic church. It duped me, I believed its lying signs and wonders. If one doesn't receive the love of the truth--the word--then that one will believe the lie. The bible says so, and it is God himself that will give that one over. Kicking out Jezebel (a spirit, not female/male) is absolutely critical if the Pentecostal church is to continue in blessing.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[Alive_Again]

It is the spirit that has set itself up in the Pentecostal church--big time. We need to kick it out.

Some churches do suffer from this from time to time. I see no point on going on a witch hunt. If we teach about the characteristics of controlling spirits, the folks in the pews will know when they manifest. Do you agree?

The Lord admonishes us to. How do we do that. By holding manifestations/prophecy/ to the Word of God.

We should do that anyway whether or not someone thinks a Jezebel spirit is working. Many people do not know what the Word really means anyway within the context it is given, so let the leadership do their thing and just pray for discernment in the church. Does this sound like a good approach to you?

When there is a false prophet in our midst, we don't allow that person to continue being a leader in our church and you know who I mean, yes you do.

How would I? You're piping an uncertain sound. You're insinuating (pardon the pun) someone is at large who is well known.Doesn't the Word say for us to not judge God's servants? It is our place to only receive that which we witness to and to be on the alert for deception. The spirit of suspicion is not a godly trait and more likely to be manifested by a Jezebel spirit.

I say this in love. Please be careful not to judge or to cause anyone to fall by mentioning someone's name and looking for someone to agree with you. (It's like putting a big golf tee down and asking if someone would like to put their head on it (it rests there nicely). You may be cautious about someone's ministry, but the Word is clear about rendering final judgment with our mouths/in our hearts. Don't you agree? I'm sure you do! (PTL)

(Not an accusation) Just a godly admonition to help keep us in the center of the narrow path.

 

[lismore]

May the Lord have mercy on us in these perilous times!

In the last days perilous times will come! We are in the last days!

 

[melindarella]

Alive_Again: Some churches do suffer from this from time to time. I see no point on going on a witch hunt. If we teach about the characteristics of controlling spirits, the folks in the pews will know when they manifest. Do you agree?

No, I don't agree. I don't see anything about "controlling" spirits in the bible and we need our Pastors to control the church, that is their job...to shepherd the flock--and they have been given a rod and a staff to do that. Indeed the Word warns in Rev 2:20, that they have lost control of their congregation to the degree that the Jezebel spirit has been made to feel welcome. It starts by not holding those accountable when their false prophecies do not come to pass, or new religious practices are introduced that are outside of the scripture. In the Old Testament, being a false prophet was punishable by death. It is still so important that the Lord says:

Rev 2:20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

See she calls herself a prophetess--the church doesn't call her a prophetess. What the church does is tolerate her. Now I KNOW that you know people who are claiming to have a prophetic annointing whose prophecies not only have repeatedly not come to pass but indeed are destroying the church. And we are called to judge them.
1Co 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
1Co 14:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
1Co 14:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
1Co 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
Now, you may say, well they have other prophets around them who endorse what they have to say. Find two people that YOU know who have a prophetic annointing and ask them to judge what they say. Or better yet, if their prophecy doesn't come to pass again and again and again warn them privately, and then take two and if they still won't receive you then take it to your Pastor. And if he won't receive you, you need to find another church because the Lord will judge this sooner or later. Or if they are on your favorite christian broadcasting/media you need to shut them off and if they are held up in your church as what you should be following you need to talk to your pastor and show him your proof that they are false prophets. You know what to do. You don't need a witchhunt...you need to rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Mat 18:15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.16But if he will not hearthee, thentake with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tellitunto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

 

[melindarella]

Me:

The Lord admonishes us to. How do we do that. By holding manifestations/prophecy/ to the Word of God.
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Alive Again: We should do that anyway whether or not someone thinks a Jezebel spirit is working. Many people do not know what the Word really means anyway within the context it is given, so let the leadership do their thing and just pray for discernment in the church. Does this sound like a good approach to you?

No, according to Rev 2:20, Jezebel can only operate with leadership's cooperation. Leadership allows it to operate out of fear of losing their congregation, or promises of more numbers/mo money. We will all be held accountable for the knowing the Word and there is NO excuse for not knowing it. There is no time in history that there has been more access to understandable bibles, commentaries, etc. Do you think I went to school? The school of the Holy Spirit.

1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. (The jezebel spirit)
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
1Jn 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. False prophecy is lying.

If the leadership/church in question had discernment to begin with they would have never suffered Jezebel. What they have is a powerful clique (s) who are serving their own lusts; and Jezebel promises to deliver the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. The right approach would be to repent of our worldliness and if we are sincere, we wouldn't want the Jezebel spirit in our midst because what it is offering would no longer appeal. We would want more of Jesus and none of it. I know, I have kicked that spirit out of my own life long ago by coming out of Babylon, (the world--I don't care what I drive, wear, how much money I have, where I live etc. I have turned off the TV and stop listening to the demonic music including that which calls itself Christian. I have stopped paying attention to what the world is doing and only about getting ready to meet Jesus face-to-face...because when it is all said and done, you will answer for yourself according the Word, whether you know that Word or not.
Paul talking: Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
All I care about is Jesus and His will being done: ie people being saved and coming to Him, and the church being comforted/warned and getting ready for Him. He has given us the gifts of the spirit for that end--always.

 

[Alive_Again]

You can judge in the spirit what anyone prophesies. You don't need prophets. We're all called to have discernment.

 

[melindarella]

Me: When there is a false prophet in our midst, we don't allow that person to continue being a leader in our church and you know who I mean, yes you do.
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Alive Again: How would I? You're piping an uncertain sound. You're insinuating (pardon the pun) someone is at large who is well known.Doesn't the Word say for us to not judge God's servants? It is our place to only receive that which we witness to and to be on the alert for deception. The spirit of suspicion is not a godly trait and more likely to be manifested by a Jezebel spirit.

Your post sounds like an invitation to name names. I don't have to do that (though Paul did)

1Ti 1:18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare; 19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: 20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. (Here is a church leader asking the Lord to deliver people over to satan.)

You know who the false prophets are. Everyone does. They prophesy and it doesn't come to pass and then leadership makes excuses for them and you follow the leader because you don't want to open your mouth, or leave your church, etc. lose your ministry standing, or whatever else you are getting out of keeping your mouth shut. If someone does open their mouth, they are called Jezebels and have veiled threats sent to them.

You are called to judge:

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (Jezebel)

1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (Jezebel is the world in the church (mixture--that which is Holy mixed with that that is profane) (Jezebel introduces another Jesus who does things the bible doesn't say to do, it introduces another spirit that is worldly and appeals to the flesh and wants to do things in the flesh and not in the spirit, Jezebel claims to be god and says you are god too.) 1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. (I am of God (not god, of God) by repenting of being in love with the things of the world and surrendering my life to the Jesus Christ of Nazareth of the Bible and renouncing the love of the world) 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. (The reason that Jezebel can operate is that it promises bigger churches, more numbers, more money, better gifts than the church down the street, a new thing and new move of God that is not scriptural, that you will be/ are a god or that you can be your own God in the sense of you can do it your way and whoever doesn't like it--tell them not to judge or touch not mine anointed. (which All born again believers are called the anointed not just the special few)
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
This is the spirit that tempted Jesus with all the kingdoms of the world if He would bow down to it. It is the spirit of satan.

You are called to judge:

1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, (Jezebel) or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? (in the world) do not ye judge them that are within? (the body)13 But them that are without (the world) God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Again the word says:
Rev 2:18And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feetarelike fine brass;19I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the lastto bemore than the first.20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.23And I will kill her children with death; andall the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.24But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.25But that which ye havealreadyhold fast till I come.26And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.28And I will give him the morning star.29He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


See, all the other churches can see what this one church is doing. They don't suffer this false prophet/prophetess into their congregations and their strange manifestations that are not biblical. And what do they get for their obedience? You call them dead. Jesus calls this spirit's children dead if they won't repent. And I will kill her children with death; Not my words.

 

[melindarella]

Alive Again: I say this in love. Please be careful not to judge or to cause anyone to fall by mentioning someone's name and looking for someone to agree with you. (It's like putting a big golf tee down and asking if someone would like to put their head on it (it rests there nicely). You may be cautious about someone's ministry, but the Word is clear about rendering final judgment with our mouths/in our hearts. Don't you agree? I'm sure you do! (PTL)

(Not an accusation) Just a godly admonition to help keep us in the center of the narrow path.

Your problem is with what the Word of God says, not what I say.

 

[melindarella]

Alive Again: While I do agree that pastors should do their thing to rebuke those who sin, just as the Word says. That is the pastor's job, not ours. If someone sins against you, you can correct them in the manner you spoke of. You can even talk to the pastor if you think some spirit is manifesting. Manipulating/controlling are what Jezebel does. The Lord has been pretty clear about this

Where in the bible is the Lord clear about Jezebel being a manipulating/controlling spirit in His words? He tells you she is a false prophetess, He tells you she is a teacher, He tells you she teaches His servants to eat meat sacrified to idols (an idolater) He tells you that she is a fornicator (spiritual) But He is pretty clear that this spirit works by cooperation. (You suffer that woman Jezebel--you let her.) Or else why would it be fair to kill her children with death. They know(her) and they cooperate. To many people have answered this question by what they have read in a book about this spirit and not by what The Book says about the spirit.

 

[melindarella]

And I don't mean literally you.

Stick to a testament. You can't say that we can't hold false prophecy to the standard of the old testament and then use Hezekiah.

We are called to put prophecy up to the test of the New Testament. All the scriptures have been given to you below if you are really interested in knowing the truth.

I pray that you do, because if you are my brother, I love you--and if you are not my brother, I pray that you would come to know the truth about Jesus Christ of Nazareth, because I Love You. That is why I speak, and this is why I will keep speaking.

 

[Ajax 777]

It is the spirit of witchcraft and idolatry, and idolatrous worship. It is the spirit of false prophecy, false prophets, and false religion. It is the spirit of suicide/murder. It is the spirit of mixture. The Holy with the profane. It is the spirit of anti-christ. Study Jezebel of old and what all of her characteristics were and you will see the spirit that Jesus is speaking of in the book of Revelation. It is the spirit that has set itself up in the Pentecostal church--big time. We need to kick it out. The Lord admonishes us to. How do we do that. By holding manifestations/prophecy/ to the Word of God. When there is a false prophet in our midst, we don't allow that person to continue being a leader in our church and you know who I mean, yes you do. When there are false manifestations in our church we need to call people on it/and remove those who are bringing in seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. There should be nothing done that is not clearly shown in scripture as there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
We have enough problem obeying the old without trying to move in the new.
Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
Everything about everything is in the Bible. I know, I was deceived, I was led astray and I was almost shipwrecked. This spirit is destroying the Pentecostal/charismatic church. It duped me, I believed its lying signs and wonders. If one doesn't receive the love of the truth--the word--then that one will believe the lie. The bible says so, and it is God himself that will give that one over. Kicking out Jezebel (a spirit, not female/male) is absolutely critical if the Pentecostal church is to continue in blessing.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Alive_Again: Some churches do suffer from this from time to time. I see no point on going on a witch hunt. If we teach about the characteristics of controlling spirits, the folks in the pews will know when they manifest. Do you agree?

No, I don't agree. I don't see anything about "controlling" spirits in the bible and we need our Pastors to control the church, that is their job...to shepherd the flock--and they have been given a rod and a staff to do that. Indeed the Word warns in Rev 2:20, that they have lost control of their congregation to the degree that the Jezebel spirit has been made to feel welcome. It starts by not holding those accountable when their false prophecies do not come to pass, or new religious practices are introduced that are outside of the scripture. In the Old Testament, being a false prophet was punishable by death. It is still so important that the Lord says:

Rev 2:20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

See she calls herself a prophetess--the church doesn't call her a prophetess. What the church does is tolerate her. Now I KNOW that you know people who are claiming to have a prophetic annointing whose prophecies not only have repeatedly not come to pass but indeed are destroying the church. And we are called to judge them.
1Co 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
1Co 14:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
1Co 14:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
1Co 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
Now, you may say, well they have other prophets around them who endorse what they have to say. Find two people that YOU know who have a prophetic annointing and ask them to judge what they say. Or better yet, if their prophecy doesn't come to pass again and again and again warn them privately, and then take two and if they still won't receive you then take it to your Pastor. And if he won't receive you, you need to find another church because the Lord will judge this sooner or later. Or if they are on your favorite christian broadcasting/media you need to shut them off and if they are held up in your church as what you should be following you need to talk to your pastor and show him your proof that they are false prophets. You know what to do. You don't need a witchhunt...you need to rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Mat 18:15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.16But if he will not hearthee, thentake with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tellitunto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Me:

The Lord admonishes us to. How do we do that. By holding manifestations/prophecy/ to the Word of God.
​

Alive Again: We should do that anyway whether or not someone thinks a Jezebel spirit is working. Many people do not know what the Word really means anyway within the context it is given, so let the leadership do their thing and just pray for discernment in the church. Does this sound like a good approach to you?

No, according to Rev 2:20, Jezebel can only operate with leadership's cooperation. Leadership allows it to operate out of fear of losing their congregation, or promises of more numbers/mo money. We will all be held accountable for the knowing the Word and there is NO excuse for not knowing it. There is no time in history that there has been more access to understandable bibles, commentaries, etc. Do you think I went to school? The school of the Holy Spirit.

1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. (The jezebel spirit)
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
1Jn 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. False prophecy is lying.

If the leadership/church in question had discernment to begin with they would have never suffered Jezebel. What they have is a powerful clique (s) who are serving their own lusts; and Jezebel promises to deliver the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. The right approach would be to repent of our worldliness and if we are sincere, we wouldn't want the Jezebel spirit in our midst because what it is offering would no longer appeal. We would want more of Jesus and none of it. I know, I have kicked that spirit out of my own life long ago by coming out of Babylon, (the world--I don't care what I drive, wear, how much money I have, where I live etc. I have turned off the TV and stop listening to the demonic music including that which calls itself Christian. I have stopped paying attention to what the world is doing and only about getting ready to meet Jesus face-to-face...because when it is all said and done, you will answer for yourself according the Word, whether you know that Word or not. *(snip)* But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. [/SIZE]
This is the spirit that tempted Jesus with all the kingdoms of the world if He would bow down to it. It is the spirit of satan.

You are called to judge... *(snip)*

Melinda, everything you have written is spoken with the wisdom of God from above.
Precisely discerned, well-written, and a hearty amen to it all.

 

[melindarella]

It's the Holy Spirit. He is warning them. I am just typing. He is bringing the scriptures to mind, I am just cutting and pasting.

 

[Ajax 777]

It's the Holy Spirit. He is warning them. I am just typing. He is bringing the scriptures to mind, I am just cutting and pasting.

EXACTLY!!!

Wow. Praise the LORD Who writes His precepts on the hearts of His faithful!!

 

[Alive_Again]

Your post sounds like an invitation to name names. I don't have to do that (though Paul did)

My whole thing has been to be careful to not serve anyone up with the opportunity to render judgment against God's servants.

You insist I know some false prophet (I don't). I'm quite sure they are out their because the Word warns us about them. I am privy to a long prophecy where Father God talked about how they are groomed and come about. It's all fascinating indeed. I don't go around with pitchforks and torches because that is so. If something is going on in the fellowship that I attend, I might speak to the leadership in a non accusing way. Outside of that, it is not my calling to "expose false prohpets". If you're a pastor and it's going on in your church, it's your business. Short of that, their are rules of order in the church.

You are called to judge:

We should be careful or we'll yield to the very thing that we're discussing here. We don't undermine authority or start rendering judging against God's servants. We "judge" or weigh the things we see and hear (as wise servants). Their is a difference.

You know who the false prophets are. Everyone does. They prophesy and it doesn't come to pass and then leadership makes excuses for them

There seems to be a certain amount of outrage that you carry and I don't see that it's of God. It's like an axe to grind and that is not the fruit we are called to bear. We're called to peace and love.

We are to deal with sin matter of factly, but we are to play by the rules (Jezebel's hate and manipulate the rules!) So, let's agree to hate sin, love the sinner. If you see someone in your church you believe is manifesting a Jezebel spirit, pray about it. Ask the Lord to reveal it to the right people. Do not cause division. If need be, talk to your pastor.

If you don't like someone on TV, don't watch them. Live in peace. You're not going to root out the people you don't like on TV.

Jezebel claims to be god and says you are god too.)

Well that's easy enough to dismiss.

But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, (Jezebel) or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? (in the world) do not ye judge them that are within? (the body)13 But them that are without (the world) God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Anyone who is covetous is an idolater. That doesn't necessarily mean Jezebel.

See, all the other churches can see what this one church is doing. They don't suffer this false prophet/prophetess into their congregations and their strange manifestations that are not biblical. And what do they get for their obedience? You call them dead. Jesus calls this spirit's children dead if they won't repent. And I will kill her children with death; Not my words.

We are to have a heart of mercy towards all men.

God's going to judge His own house, that's why who are we to judge another man's servant. That's the Word. We "judge" those who are within. It's not the congregation. Pray for your pastor. It's not for us to tell him or her how to do their job. You can mention observations but realize that God will reveal the intents and purposes of the heart, so have a pure heart when you start doing this because we all will be judged by the same Word.

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[melindarella]

Actually, Jesus pulled me out of the fire and wrote His word on my heart by applying the rod to my rear. I was a very stubborn, rebellious sheep. I love Jesus so much and I am so sorry for ever bringing dishonor to his name by rolling around on the floor laughing--in His sanctuary. I am no longer on the carpet but walking in His light. I was so deceived. Please Lord Jesus have mercy on your children who are still caught in the web of deception by listening to the false spirit Jezebel.

The Pentecostal Church used to be famous for REALLY knowing their bible, and then actually believing what it ALL said. That is why we were no longer Baptists (where we were an offshoot of.) We believed what the Lord said about the gifts of the spirit and we moved in them--souls were saved!!! I was one of those souls saved by an on-fire woman from the Assemblies of God Church.

How Did We Get So Off The Path?

The answer is suffering that woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophetess and teaches His servants to commit fornication and to eat meat sacrificed to idols.

 

[melindarella]

If you're a pastor and it's going on in your church, it's your business. Short of that, their are rules of order in the church.

I am a woman, and can't be a pastor. I gave you the rules of order in the church twice in scripture Matthew 18:27.

 

[Alive_Again]

Here's some good news: Jesus is Lord of the church and He has anointed MANY woman pastors. I get ministered to all of the time from a woman pastor (my personal favorite) who is also a prophet. I was called out of my denomination to a storefront church with a woman pastor (VERY anointed). There is no male or female in the spirit. There is much misunderstanding of the Word regarding women who minister and just their role in general.

I have no problem whatsoever submitting to a woman minister (because I'm really submitting to Jesus anyway) and I know Jesus doesn't either. If He calls you to pastor, answer the call. If not, you have your own ministry in the church and Jesus is your head, not man. The man is the head of the woman in the home and Jesus is the Head of the body. The fruits bear this out loudly! I'm sorry if you grew up in a church where woman do not minister as equals. With great joy, I can assure you that they do.

 

[melindarella]

It is all our calling to expose false prophets. And you said before that you are prophesing but it doesn't always come to pass. Than if I were you, I wouldn't do that any more. We serve a Holy God and He will not be mocked.

Everything that is going to happen in the future is in the scripture somewhere. The gift of prophecy primarily operates by being able to interpret what is already written. We don't need a new word, we need leaders that can rightly interpret what is already written. But unfortunately the bible says:

Jer 5:21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:
Jer 5:22 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?
Jer 5:23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.

24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest.
Jer 5:25 Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.
Jer 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.
Jer 5:27 As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.
Jer 5:28 They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.
Jer 5:29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?
Jer 5:30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;
Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Jezebel will continue because the people love to have it so.

Sir, you have been told.