Holiness

[11822]

Amen.

 

[from scratch]

So ya mean this matters?

"be ye reconciled to God." (2 Cor 5:20)

And not this?

Colossians 2:20
"So, then, if with Christ you've put all that pretentious and infantile religion behind you, why do you let yourselves be bullied by it? "Don't touch this! Don't taste that! Don't go near this!" Do you think things that are here today and gone tomorrow are worth that kind of attention? Such things sound impressive if said in a deep enough voice. They even give the illusion of being pious and humble and ascetic. But they're just another way of showing off, making yourselves look important." (MSG)

Interesting commentary there. Yeppers I understand it to be quoted from The Message.

 

[from scratch]

I think that some people are raised to think that certain religious practices are right, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as they don't conflict with God. We can find self righteous people in any circle, any and all theological backgrounds have self righteous proud people making them all look bad. Humility and obedience to God is what we should strive for, but we shouldn't get hung up on our differences in the process. Anti law can be just as bad as pro law.

Yep there are plenty legalist with in the pro grace camp. They just have a different set of laws that aren't in the Bible that they enforce. Those churches are so liberal today their previous generations are turning over in their graves or they're cheering them on seeing their freedom from such bondage.

My grandma who taught the Bible class in her church said any woman with long hair was a harlot. How's that for grins? Other churches clearly taught the opposite and were more in line with the Bible. Both were legalists to the nines.

 

[GJI]

to imitiate Christ is to be holy

 

[GJI]

how to live a holy life is a great book, il find the author for you

 

[from scratch]

to imitiate Christ is to be holy

Careful there, GJI.

 

[GJI]

How to Live a Holy Life, by Metropolitan Gregory of St. Petersburg (1784-1860).

 

[GJI]

interesting point

 

[GJI]

Careful there, GJI.

i dont think being politcally correct should interfere with holiness

 

[GJI]

Ah sorry i think i read that wrong

 

[GJI]

im not sure i follow why you said careful there?

 

[from scratch]

Oh, please don't get me wrong. I'm not criticizing you for having a good time. I'm all for having fun. I was trying to encourage the other guy to have some, as well.

That would put a little much needed grease on the wheels. Grease keeps metal cool enough it can continue to rub itself and still function.

 

[from scratch]

We are all given a measure of faith and its real faith. He questioned whether someone has real faith if they stumble, of course they do, and who doesn't stumble sometimes?

Guess I missed a detail, dad burn it.

 

[from scratch]

"That is because we're on different levels. You pursue the natural wan we peusue the spiritual. Spiritual thing are only understood spiritually. You'reclearly not following the Spirit as noted by your confession above".
Post 715

This to me is acknowledging some of our differences. I said you're free to follow the law as you said you do. I follow something different which isn't rote. The law is also called the flesh. Soask when I don't supply every detail. I do tend to think of people on my level understand loads more and that my statements can be fully loaded and could use maybe a couple posts with the 5,000 word limit. Not many would read them. Now if these statements are cut and paste I need to go back and correct my typos. They bug me. I hate proof reading. A secretary I'm not. I'm giggling about them. It is embarrasing.

" We aren't about to give you permission to enslave uf to your bondage and level of pain and woe war. Most of us have fought that one one once upon a time'.
Post 148

This isn't speaking about you but your idealogy. So sorry if you take it personally. It is how I see what you seem to testify about that causes such a statement.

And any other quotes from you referring to my trying to be perfected in the flesh when its really holiness i seek to perfect because God tells me to.

Isn't that what you're trying to do? be perfect. You don't understand that the Christian is perfect. It isn't about the performance of the flesh. If more Christians understood this it would be great. No I'm not promoting sin.

To your verse, but your comments don't fit them. It is most unfortunate that you don't understand what the verse says enough to apply them to your life.
Post 751

Isn't it a truthful statement. Instead of getting upset why don't you try to better explain yourself. I do. You see me trying to say it over and maybe differently.

And Many other quotes from you referring to me trying to be perfected in the flesh when in truth im just trying to perfect holiness because God tells us to.

And how is this accomplished? Is it not the outward manifestions of the flesh. Jesus said make the inside of the cupclean and the outside takes care of itself. I hope you understand that isn't a direct quote.

 

[JohnRabbit]

Then start understanding the power of sin is the law, 1 cor 15;56.

so, tell me.

what does the psalmist mean when he says "for all your commandments are righteousness".

 

[11822]

Careful there, GJI.

That is what we're supposed to do, become more like Christ.

 

[11822]

This to me is acknowledging some of our differences. I said you're free to follow the law as you said you do. I follow something different which isn't rote. The law is also called the flesh. Soask when I don't supply every detail. I do tend to think of people on my level understand loads more and that my statements can be fully loaded and could use maybe a couple posts with the 5,000 word limit. Not many would read them. Now if these statements are cut and paste I need to go back and correct my typos. They bug me. I hate proof reading. A secretary I'm not. I'm giggling about them. It is embarrasing. This isn't speaking about you but your idealogy. So sorry if you take it personally. It is how I see what you seem to testify about that causes such a statement.Isn't that what you're trying to do? be perfect. You don't understand that the Christian is perfect. It isn't about the performance of the flesh. If more Christians understood this it would be great. No I'm not promoting sin.Isn't it a truthful statement. Instead of getting upset why don't you try to better explain yourself. I do. You see me trying to say it over and maybe differently.And how is this accomplished? Is it not the outward manifestions of the flesh. Jesus said make the inside of the cupclean and the outside takes care of itself. I hope you understand that isn't a direct quote.

Its about following Holiness scratch, not perfecting the flesh. Do you follow holiness and peace with all men as we are taught to do? That's all i'm trying to do

 

[JRSut1000]

THe law = the flesh? Then one would have to admit that God didn't know what He was doing or what He was getting himself or His people into!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

so, tell me.

what does the psalmist mean when he says "for all your commandments are righteousness".

Jesus is and does judge in Righteouness, as He is the Righteous One, correct?

James 5:6 Ye condemn, ye murder the Righteous-One, not He is resisting to ye.
[Matt 27/Reve 9:21]

Revelation 19:11 And I saw the heaven having be opened and behold!
A white horse and the One sitting on him being called faithful and true.
And in righteousness He is judging and battling.

 

[visionary]

We are flesh.. and will always be... even after the resurrection... and yeah.. flesh and the law need each other to operate properly. That is why He gave the flesh the law.. then He gave us the spirit to discern just how spiritual that law is.