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Jesus vs Paul, law abolishment. A simple answer, from a frog.

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Abraham paid for his electricity;
Gen23:16: And Abraham hearkened unto Ephron; and Abraham weighed to Ephron the silver, which he had named in the audience of the sons of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, current money with the merchant.

And we know where all the power comes from;
Matt 6:13: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

let's keep our fingers away from the outlets, shall we?
 
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It does not matter if it's 480 or any other voltage that still does not prove your point because, as usual, you are wrong.
No amount of voltage will hurt you if you're insulated and not grounded for the current to pass through.

I got hit by lightling while driving. Sure killed the truck and didn't effect me at all. I was sittin in a plastic seat with my hands on a plastic steering wheel and my feet on a rubber mat in the hammer lane.
 
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Abraham paid for his electricity;
Gen23:16: And Abraham hearkened unto Ephron; and Abraham weighed to Ephron the silver, which he had named in the audience of the sons of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, current money with the merchant.

And we know where all the power comes from;
Matt 6:13: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

let's keep our fingers away from the outlets, shall we?
^_^^_^^_^ Dat's good.
 
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Abraham paid for his electricity;
Gen23:16: And Abraham hearkened unto Ephron; and Abraham weighed to Ephron the silver, which he had named in the audience of the sons of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, current money with the merchant.

And we know where all the power comes from;
Matt 6:13: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

let's keep our fingers away from the outlets, shall we?

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No amount of voltage will hurt you if you're insulated and not grounded for the current to pass through.

I got hit by lightling while driving. Sure killed the truck and didn't effect me at all. I was sittin in a plastic seat with my hands on a plastic steering wheel and my feet on a rubber mat in the hammer lane.

wow..glad u r ok..
 
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It does not matter if it's 480 or any other voltage that still does not prove your point because, as usual, you are wrong.
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Abraham paid for his electricity;
Gen23:16: And Abraham hearkened unto Ephron; and Abraham weighed to Ephron the silver, which he had named in the audience of the sons of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, current money with the merchant.

And we know where all the power comes from;
Matt 6:13: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

let's keep our fingers away from the outlets, shall we?
Originally Posted by from scratch No amount of voltage will hurt you if you're insulated and not grounded for the current to pass through.

I got hit by lightling while driving. Sure killed the truck and didn't effect me at all. I was sittin in a plastic seat with my hands on a plastic steering wheel and my feet on a rubber mat in the hammer lane.
Beware the lightening! :thumbsup:

Reve 4:5 And out of the throne are issuing-forth lightnings and sounds and thunders,
and seven torches/lamps of fire are-burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of the GOD.

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No amount of voltage will hurt you if you're insulated and not grounded for the current to pass through.

I got hit by lightling while driving. Sure killed the truck and didn't effect me at all. I was sittin in a plastic seat with my hands on a plastic steering wheel and my feet on a rubber mat in the hammer lane.

Something to tell your grandkids ... over , and ober , and over again . :D

It does sound like it was exciting and depressing ( truck death ) at the same time .
 
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from scratch said:
I point you to Isa 28:10 and ask that you read the Bible with this in mind. Here's the verse - For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: This little jewel will change your whole view point on many doctrines. Ususally bad doctrines are rooted in the ignoring of other scripture that would cause a problem. Otherwise known as proof texting which is rampant here.

Well, I've only read the first two pages in this thread so far, but I just had to comment on this. Ironically, you probably cited the most MIS-quoted verse in all of scripture in an attempt to make your point. Here's the verse, IN CONTEXT:

Isaiah 28:9-16

"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; THAT THEY MIGHT GO, AND FALL BACKWARD, AND BE BROKEN, AND SNARED, AND TAKEN. Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Because ye have said, We have made a convenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: Therefore thus saith the LORD God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste."

It was those who were going to FALL BACKWARDS, BE BROKEN, SNARED AND TAKEN who were employing the "line upon line, precept upon precept" principle of which you spoke. IOW, it was religious Jews who were seeking justification by the law WITHOUT recognizing Jesus Christ as the One to Whom the law pointed. Jesus is the "precious corner stone" Whom they rejected and they also rejected "the rest" which He offered them through "stammering lips and another tongue" or through the gifts of the Holy Spirit which are only attainable through faith in Christ.

I Corinthians 14:20-22

"Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, siath the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe."

Anyhow, in the future, if you're going to speak against all the aspects of the law, then the last scripture you should be (MIS-)"quoting" IN A FAVORABLE FASHION is Isaiah 28:10 as it is clearly SPEAKING AGAINST those who seek justification in the law apart from Christ. Just as an FYI.
 
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OK drive by prove it? I'd love to see some evidence once in a while for your statements.
Why? You never have any proof for anything you say.
Go back and see what Frog/you said first and then go do a little research on eletricity.
Why do you want me to do all the research for you?
Is that how you got through school, getting someone else to do all your work for you, or did you even get through school? :p
 
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Why? You never have any proof for anything you say.
Go back and see what Frog/you said first and then go do a little research on eletricity.
Why do you want me to do all the research for you?
Is that how you got through school, getting someone else to do all your work for you, or did you even get through school? :p

"david64", lets talk scripture, I'm sure there are science forums that you can visit, to discuss other things.:)
 
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Well, I've only read the first two pages in this thread so far, but I just had to comment on this. Ironically, you probably cited the most MIS-quoted verse in all of scripture in an attempt to make your point. Here's the verse, IN CONTEXT:

Isaiah 28:9-16

"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; THAT THEY MIGHT GO, AND FALL BACKWARD, AND BE BROKEN, AND SNARED, AND TAKEN. Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Because ye have said, We have made a convenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: Therefore thus saith the LORD God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste."

It was those who were going to FALL BACKWARDS, BE BROKEN, SNARED AND TAKEN who were employing the "line upon line, precept upon precept" principle of which you spoke. IOW, it was religious Jews who were seeking justification by the law WITHOUT recognizing Jesus Christ as the One to Whom the law pointed. Jesus is the "precious corner stone" Whom they rejected and they also rejected "the rest" which He offered them through "stammering lips and another tongue" or through the gifts of the Holy Spirit which are only attainable through faith in Christ.

I Corinthians 14:20-22

"Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, siath the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe."

Anyhow, in the future, if you're going to speak against all the aspects of the law, then the last scripture you should be (MIS-)"quoting" IN A FAVORABLE FASHION is Isaiah 28:10 as it is clearly SPEAKING AGAINST those who seek justification in the law apart from Christ. Just as an FYI.
Naw. Verse 10 God is instructing them and verse 13 describes what they did with it. In verse 13 isn't God speaking to them. The COI are or were known for this rebeious behavior.

Nope, maybe verse 13 might be applied that way though.

I beg your pardon about misquoting even misusing 28:10.
 
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