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Top Ten Most Evil Men

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Not a very credible list without Margaret Sanger on it.

I'm curious as to your reasons, Joab. (Not debating, wondering which of several possible reasons you may feel justify making her one of the Top 10 Worst Women).
 
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Lots of evil men weren't on your list, either. Both lists suck.

I could agree with Stalin at the top of the male list but then again it could be said the creators of the atomic Bomb were worse.

The female list was just a bunch of husband killers and who knows, may some of them had been driven to their crimes.

I see more indirect carnage worse than actual acts. I find that variety much more sinister - when the perp knows what it is they are doing.

Sanger knew exactly what she was proposing and next to Eve's sin (which she was deceived into) herself, is complicit in more racist deaths than that whole lists combined many times over. imho.

I suppose it could also be said every insane person is either driven to it somehow or physiologically ill, however it just seems to me at some point everyone has a choice.

Sanger definitely choose racism and perhpas the greatest genocide known to mankind but skirts under the radar because society has yet to wake up to it.
 
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Oh, I think the #1 position for Stalin is well-deserved. But I miss Napoleon on that list and several Roman emperors.

I don't know much about Margaret Sanger, I had never heard of her before coming to OBOB.

She is the eugenicist founder of Planned Parenthood.

Margaret Sanger: The Mike Wallace Interview

"Maafa 21" Exposes Black Genocide

Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

Some radical feminists portray her as a hero for womens rights for contracepting and abortion.

Hillary Clinton honored her after visiting the Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe a couple years ago. :sick:

All one has to do is read her writings to see how sick she was.

Hitler himself liked her because of her attitudes toward arian dominance.
 
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Europeans don't know what Planned Parenthood is, either.

They should. They have their own version (there are many versions) founded by Sanger as well. She made her rounds there while she fled from being wanted here.
 
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So what is it?

Everywhere they do abortions. You don't know where that is?

There must be a lot of facilities because over half of all babies are aborted in some places.

BBC News - Europe's abortion rules

Around here most private facilities I know of are ironically called "WomanCare" but I have seen one downtown and one other actually called Planned Parentood. They are the ones funded by the government here.

Over there its considered a human right to be able to kill your child in the womb according to the ECHR and ICC. :sick:
 
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Everywhere they do abortions. You don't know where that is?

There must be a lot of facilities because over half of all babies are aborted in some places.

BBC News - Europe's abortion rules

Around here most private facilities I know of are ironically called "WomanCare" but I have seen one downtown and one other actually called Planned Parentood. They are the ones funded by the government here.

Over there its considered a human right to be able to kill your child in the womb according to the ECHR and ICC. :sick:

You do know, don't you, that for all Sanger's faults, which were many, she was adamantly opposed to abortion?
 
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It was messier than sterilization.

I don't believe Sanger was against euthanasia or genocide as long as it was against the inferior race and white trash.

I've read to much of her stuff to find it anything but incredible that anyone could defend her in any way except out of their own ignorance of the truth.
 
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Margaret Sanger, Racist and Pro-Abortion


or...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

In a chapter from Woman and the New Race (1920) titled "Contraceptives or Abortion?," Sanger wrote, "While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."[32]
Roger Streitmatter has claimed that Sanger's opposition to abortion stemmed primarily from a concern for the dangers to the mother rather than moral issues.[33] Nonetheless, in her 1938 autobiography, Sanger notes that her 1916 opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: "To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way—no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way—it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun."[34]
In a 1916 edition of Family Limitation, Sanger advised women douche with boric acid and to take quinine to prevent implantation. She wrote further, "No one can doubt that there are times when an abortion is justifiable but they will become unnecessary when care is taken to prevent conception. This is the only cure for abortions."[35]
 
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Margaret Sanger, Racist and Pro-Abortion


or...


Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In a chapter from Woman and the New Race (1920) titled "Contraceptives or Abortion?," Sanger wrote, "While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."[32]
Roger Streitmatter has claimed that Sanger's opposition to abortion stemmed primarily from a concern for the dangers to the mother rather than moral issues.[33] Nonetheless, in her 1938 autobiography, Sanger notes that her 1916 opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: "To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way—no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way—it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun."[34]
In a 1916 edition of Family Limitation, Sanger advised women douche with boric acid and to take quinine to prevent implantation. She wrote further, "No one can doubt that there are times when an abortion is justifiable but they will become unnecessary when care is taken to prevent conception. This is the only cure for abortions."[35]

Whats bolded is my understanding as well.
 
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The Netherlands have much lower abortion rates than the US.

Why do you thinks so?

Not that I doubt it, but do you have some facts?

If thats the case, I wonder why it would be when places like Russia and Switzerland are over 60% abortion rate.
 
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Sorry to break in, but I have to object to Emperor Hirohito's inclusion as a "bonus." The man had no power; the military junta was responsible for the Rape of Nanjing, and for other human rights abuses. Hirohito was taught all his life "to reign, but not to rule"; he even protested some of the abuses, and was politely reminded of this axiom by the military leaders.

He was a very powerless god; only a figurehead. He does not deserve to be remembered as evil... Hideki Tojo, though, is another matter.
 
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i know of no one who tops the murder ratio than Mao Tse Tung, so how did he only get honorable mention?

Mao more lethal<br>than Hitler, Stalin

Who had more murders?
Nobody.
The Falun Gong put out some articles of how absolutely atrocious that the Mao and the Chicoms were at systematically destroying the traditions of Chinese society, and the family ties that are the basis of that society most of all.

It would seem that the compiler of the article was looking for certain categories of evil men, not necessarily going by the absolute numbers, but by the type of evil that a man represented.

In that category of evil , he chose Stalin. I can see where Mao, for his great intelligence and great cunning, would be a better representative of that kind of evil. The utter heartlessness of Stalin though, his megalomania, and his paranoia that led to his purges have a personal aspect to them where it was clear that his only concern was himself. Mao, for his great evil, may have had the restoration of the pride of the Chinese nation as part of his concern too.
That is how I would explain that choice anyways.
 
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So what is it?

He means the Rutgersstichting, which has since gone out of business and is separated from abortion clinics. Add to that that Margaret Sanger was against abortions. She was in favour of birth control, which was the main form of existence for the Rutgershuizen.

The world wide average of terminated pregnancies is 26 out of 100. Most of Europe (barring Russia) is well below that, with 19 on average and 10 and 11 in the Netherlands and Belgium again.
 
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