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You might want to read that point again:

If science says the FSM doesn't exist, go ahead and believe it at your discretion.

But, hey -- if you want to talk yourself out of understanding me, please don't let me interfere.

If you're still trying to convince me that that somehow makes point #3 say "no" you're failing miserably.
 
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They were at an impasse, until God, Himself, stepped in and broke the tie.

I can't break the tie here with you "Egyptians" -- God has to.
The discussion about God's existence is at an impasse until God decides it one way or the other.

Even you must see how funny that is.
 
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I will explain clearly for you.

Your viewpoint of the bible scriptures + bible scriptures= ignorance or illogical in reason
Of course it is, jcslao -- it's only a literal interpretation of Genesis 1; and if a literal interpretation of something is illogical to you, then I suggest you stay away from the phone book.
You use your own interpretation as stated before to get your viewpoint across which can be wrong.
What happened to your accusation that I'm being illogical?

You didn't even address it.

It's because you know very well that the literal interpretation is the most favored one throughout all of history, don't you?
 
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What happened to your accusation that I'm being illogical?

You didn't even address it.

It's because you know very well that the literal interpretation is the most favored one throughout all of history, don't you?
Ok, fine then, literal interpretations are the best.

Which one is more literal then, G1 or G2?
Were all the livestock literally killed in the fifth, or the seventh plague?
 
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What happened to your accusation that I'm being illogical?

You didn't even address it.

It's because you know very well that the literal interpretation is the most favored one throughout all of history, don't you?

Ok, I take that back... you use logic. Bad logic.

See, the problem with logical conclusions is that they are not very reliable when based on potentially false premises. And that is your problem: you simply define your premises as true, and don´t ever check them.

To counter that, I don´t even have to use "boolean" logic... a simple linear conclusion is enough.

Premise: if AV makes any statement regarding the truth of the Bible, it is wrong.
Conclusion: AV is wrong if he makes a statement regarding the truth of the Bible.
 
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Ok, I take that back... you use logic. Bad logic.

See, the problem with logical conclusions is that they are not very reliable when based on potentially false premises. And that is your problem: you simply define your premises as true, and don´t ever check them.

To counter that, I don´t even have to use "boolean" logic... a simple linear conclusion is enough.

Premise: if AV makes any statement regarding the truth of the Bible, it is wrong.
Conclusion: AV is wrong if he makes a statement regarding the truth of the Bible.
^_^
Circular arguments are circular.
 
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What happened to your accusation that I'm being illogical?

You didn't even address it.

It's because you know very well that the literal interpretation is the most favored one throughout all of history, don't you?

lol you take something that is literal in a sense which was the "phone book". I can take word for word from the phone book, why? As i said it provides actual evidence to connect me with the person I'm trying to reach, physically and communicating wise via phone.

the bible however is just a book with no connection but so called "supernatural" which cannot not be proven but by a "feeling" aspect.

Literal interpretation is something that all religions take in to make their "god" seem like the right one, but what if you are all wrong? Your interpretations saying the KJV is the right one and all others are corrupted or in a fundamental sense "from the devil" is your or the Baptist Christian interpretation.
 
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By all means, post a URL. Unlike most people around here, I'm here to learn, not to be proven right. Obviously my mind can be changed; I was a Christian until very recently.

When you googled "bible contradictions" you would have found plenty of websites listing those contradictions and also plenty of sites responding to them. If you are genuine you would be considering both sides before making a statement.

When you find a contradiction that is not already addressed, post it here. (or start a new thread), i would look forward to that.

Wow that was helpful. I couldn't find it. Can't you just give me the 2 sentence answer that I can look in to and research for myself?

There is no hope of reducing it to 2 sentences, but it is here in this thread.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7514175/
 
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When you googled "bible contradictions" you would have found plenty of websites listing those contradictions and also plenty of sites responding to them. If you are genuine you would be considering both sides before making a statement.

When you find a contradiction that is not already addressed, post it here. (or start a new thread), i would look forward to that.



There is no hope of reducing it to 2 sentences, but it is here in this thread.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7514175/

Hm. In that thread I see you generalizing about how freemike won't take it seriously because he's an atheist. I see someone else saying that the King James version of the Bible is riddled with mistakes and should not be used (contrary to what AV believes. Maybe you guys should get together and decide which version is the real inerrant word of god before you trot out as proof of what you believe.)

And finally I get to a real argument from Ih8S8n which is quite easy to reduce to two sentences. Actually how about one sentence?

"When Jesus says that some of them wouldn't taste death before seeing the kingdom of God, he meant spiritual death, not physical death."

There, how hard was that? That pretty much sums up what he was saying. Of course it doesn't make sense because he says they wouldn't taste (spiritual) death until they see the kingdom of God. So does that mean they'll taste spiritual death after they see the kingdom of God? If he was talking about spiritual death, wouldn't he have said "Some of you will never taste death"?

Am I nit-picking? Sure. But isn't that what you guys are doing? I think the passage speaks plainly. Jesus prophesied that he would return before some of his followers died.
 
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When you googled "bible contradictions" you would have found plenty of websites listing those contradictions and also plenty of sites responding to them. If you are genuine you would be considering both sides before making a statement.

When you find a contradiction that is not already addressed, post it here. (or start a new thread), i would look forward to that.



There is no hope of reducing it to 2 sentences, but it is here in this thread.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7514175/

What's there to consider? It's either contradictory, or it isn't.
 
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What's there to consider? It's either contradictory, or it isn't.

2 Samuel 24:1.
And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah


Chronicles 21:1
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.


Yeah. I'm....confused. (<----How much do you want to bet AV will make a smart comment about that sentence and ignore the first part of this post?)
 
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