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And I've explain why it "fails" -- haven't I?

Yet again:

I believe God "jumbled" the order of Creation up on purpose -- knowing that in the last times, the religion of the end-times (scientism) would dictate how history went down.

So God "jumbled" the order of the creation events so they would stand out like a sore thumb.

Had God created the universe according to the way your god supposedly did it, then it would be even harder to deny evolution.

Or you can say that every word of it was not divinely whispered into the authors' ears. There are multiple authors of Genesis, separated over many years. You could retain the tenants of the story and the message without having to believe that it's a play-by-play of reality. Nothing made by man is ever perfect, so why should the Bible be?
 
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Or you can say that every word of it was not divinely whispered into the authors' ears. There are multiple authors of Genesis, separated over many years. You could retain the tenants of the story and the message without having to believe that it's a play-by-play of reality. Nothing made by man is ever perfect, so why should the Bible be?
Be that as it may, I explained why I think God "jumbled" the order of the creation events.

Whether you agree or not, I hope you'll see I explained the accusation that God did indeed "jumble" the events.

In short, I'm actually agreeing with him -- (and yet you still want to argue the point).

:doh:
 
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Be that as it may, I explained why I think God "jumbled" the order of the creation events.

Whether you agree or not, I hope you'll see I explained the accusation that God did indeed "jumble" the events.

In short, I'm actually agreeing with him -- (and yet you still want to argue the point).

:doh:

You claim that God intentionally jumbled things in order to create a dichotomy between evolution and Genesis? If that was his intention, he's going to be missing out on a lot of smart people and well-intentioned people being in heaven.
 
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Be that as it may, I explained why I think God "jumbled" the order of the creation events.

Whether you agree or not, I hope you'll see I explained the accusation that God did indeed "jumble" the events.

In short, I'm actually agreeing with him -- (and yet you still want to argue the point).

:doh:
So, you think a better explanation for the discrepency is that a supernatural being did it on purpose, rather than the more likely scenario that it was copied incorrectly.

Brilliant!
 
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You claim that God intentionally jumbled things in order to create a dichotomy between evolution and Genesis? If that was his intention, he's going to be missing out on a lot of smart people and well-intentioned people being in heaven.
If that is what is keeping 'smart people and well-intentioned people' from accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour, then I have to question just how smart and well-intentioned they were in the first place.
 
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So, you think a better explanation for the discrepency is that a supernatural being did it on purpose, rather than the more likely scenario that it was copied incorrectly.
Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Brilliant!
:blush: -- thank you.
 
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If that is what is keeping 'smart people and well-intentioned people' from accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour, then I have to question just how smart and well-intentioned they were in the first place.

So you measure intelligence by belief in things that have no evidence?
 
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So you measure intelligence by belief in things that have no evidence?
Perhaps I misread your post.

It looked like you were implying that they would refrain from getting saved in protest of He "jumbling" the order of the creation events.
 
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Perhaps I misread your post.

It looked like you were implying that they would refrain from getting saved in protest of He "jumbling" the order of the creation events.

What I meant to say is that God is intentionally tricking people. Because the evidence is there for evolution, so if God is really just "testing everyone's faith" with evolution, he is really set up a death trap for a certain group of people. People who value rationality.
 
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hmm so if the creation account is jumbled as stated and you believe that God is the author of the bible why is it that the bible says that God is not the author of confusion? A jumbled account would certianly cause much confusion. That would indicate that your premise in faulty would it not?
 
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If the Genesis account was intentionally jumbled by God, then that makes God a deciever.
No, no, that's silly.
It was Genesis 2 that was jumbled by God and you know AV only does Genesis 1.
 
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hmm so if the creation account is jumbled as stated and you believe that God is the author of the bible why is it that the bible says that God is not the author of confusion? A jumbled account would certianly cause much confusion. That would indicate that your premise in faulty would it not?
That depends.

Genesis 1 was taught as written for thousands of years, until evolution started teaching otherwise.

People who embrace/embraced evolution in favor of the order of Genesis 1 are the ones who are being led astray.

It's disingenuous to look back and accuse God of being the author of confusion, when He documented everything He did in such great detail.
 
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If the Genesis account was intentionally jumbled by God, then that makes God a deciever.
Not at all.

As I said, He could have done that on purpose so as to make creationism much easier to defend in the later days.
 
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Not at all.

As I said, He could have done that on purpose so as to make creationism much easier to defend in the later days.

Except that he made it more complicated, by jumbling the accounts up and creating another argument against Creationism on top of all the other attempts to decieve people.
 
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Except that he made it more complicated, by jumbling the accounts up and creating another argument against Creationism on top of all the other attempts to decieve people.
The 'other argument' comes from science, not Scripture.

As I said, creationism flourished for thousands of years before this false doctrine bullied itself in.

Today, you guys treat evolution as if it has been taught since day one; and in fact, it is the new kid on the block.
 
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The 'other argument' comes from science, not Scripture.

As I said, creationism flourished for thousands of years before this false doctrine bullied itself in.

Today, you guys treat evolution as if it has been taught since day one; and in fact, it is the new kid on the block.

This defends your beliefs how exactly?
 
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The 'other argument' comes from science, not Scripture.

As I said, creationism flourished for thousands of years before this false doctrine bullied itself in.

Today, you guys treat evolution as if it has been taught since day one; and in fact, it is the new kid on the block.

So? Cars are pretty new, people have been using horses much longer, so we should go back to using horses?
 
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So? Cars are pretty new, people have been using horses much longer, so we should go back to using horses?
That's a good analogy.

You guys act like cars have been around longer than horses, and that auto mechanics is being encroached on by stable hands.
 
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