Can a Christian be a Freemason???

[wayseer]

Go for it AoDoA - it's all been done before.

Tell me, do you believe Christianity is a sham?

 

[AoDoA]

Go for it AoDoA - it's all been done before.

Tell me, do you believe Christianity is a sham?

of course not

 

[AoDoA]

YouTube - The Matrix- illuminati revelations

 

[max1120]

Masonary has been a tradition among the males of my family going back even before the American Revolution. Let me assure that there is no evil in Masonic teachings, that there are indeed good Christians who are brother Masons and that Lucifer is not worshiped at any Degree in any Masonic Lodge in the United States or abroad.

 

[AoDoA]

Masonary has been a tradition among the males of my family going back even before the American Revolution. Let me assure that there is no evil in Masonic teachings, that there are indeed good Christians who are brother Masons and that Lucifer is not worshiped at any Degree in any Masonic Lodge in the United States or abroad.

your family involved must be lower level or they are just lying through their teeth which is common for masons

Masonry is about as Satanic an organization that exists out there

I don't care if the lower levels are clueless to its true roots

you have the information available to you now and you should make the right decision based on that

the world or Christ?

 

[AoDoA]

YouTube - FREEMASONRY-(EXPOSED):FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT 3 OF 4

 

[wayseer]

your family involved must be lower level or they are just lying through their teeth which is common for masons

How high would you like to go. There is no Mason beyond the 3rd degree. But rather that accept the truth you relish in lies and half truths. I have been a Mason for years and as yet have not met any Mason who would say what you are saying here about their worst enemy. So tell me, am I a satanist?

You are essentially making out with your own beliefs. When given the opportunity to access the truth you thrown up more video clips proving nothing other than revealing your own convoluted thinking.

Besides, you obviously have no concept of good or evil if you think FM is satanistic. And if you have no concept of good and evil then it staggers me how you can claim to be a Christians. You don't know a Mason, you are not a Mason and yet somehow you claim to know more than anyone else about the subject.

you have the information available to you now and you should make the right decision based on that

What you have dredged up from the bottom of the harbour is disinformation. No Mason would write the stuff you write or throw up on the clips. They are generally busy doing the stuff you should be doing but can't because you're too busy looking for more clips to support your voyeurism.

 

[brightmorningstar]

The bottom line is the God created the Universe and everything in it, and God Father Son and Holy Spirit, so to call the creator God, GAOTU great architect of the universe rather than God so that people of other religions can join is essentially humanism.

 

[praisejahupeople]

I have been a Mason for years

Ah this explains a lot about why you say the things you do.

So tell me, am I a satanist?

hmmm.you certainly dont come across as someone who believes in the bible,in actual fact you tend to take a stand against...i could be wrong,You might have defended and ive missed it , but thats how you seem to be.

 

[AoDoA]

How high would you like to go. There is no Mason beyond the 3rd degree. But rather that accept the truth you relish in lies and half truths. I have been a Mason for years and as yet have not met any Mason who would say what you are saying here about their worst enemy. So tell me, am I a satanist?

You are essentially making out with your own beliefs. When given the opportunity to access the truth you thrown up more video clips proving nothing other than revealing your own convoluted thinking.

Besides, you obviously have no concept of good or evil if you think FM is satanistic. And if you have no concept of good and evil then it staggers me how you can claim to be a Christians. You don't know a Mason, you are not a Mason and yet somehow you claim to know more than anyone else about the subject.



What you have dredged up from the bottom of the harbour is disinformation. No Mason would write the stuff you write or throw up on the clips. They are generally busy doing the stuff you should be doing but can't because you're too busy looking for more clips to support your voyeurism.

you are simply the misled, uninformed, deceived, in denial, blue degrees nobody they describe you to be

one of the former Masons in the video explains that the lower levels are essentially a front to the public to make the organization seem Christian friendly

you don't move up until you prove yourself worthy to be further enlightened with all the Egyptian, Babylonian, Astrological, Gnostic, Luciferian theology the organization is really about

 

[brightmorningstar]

In response to a statement by Peter, Jesus replied to Peter 'get behind me Satan' If Peter could one minute make one statement of faith to which Jesus replied you are the rock on which I will build the church, and the next make a statement influenced by Satan, then I would suggest we all can.
Remarkable then it is when this is implied some question whether others think they are a satanist.
Peter wasnt a Satanist but he did make some wrong statements and decisions.

 

[AoDoA]

YouTube - WASHINGTON DC "CODE", THE MASONIC CITY

 

[Archivist]

your family involved must be lower level or they are just lying through their teeth which is common for masons

Masonry is about as Satanic an organization that exists out there

I don't care if the lower levels are clueless to its true roots

you have the information available to you now and you should make the right decision based on that

the world or Christ?

I am still waiting for you to reply to my post #637 and provide page references to the material that you said was quoted from the book Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. Since you quoted the material, providing references should be an easy task.

In addition, you have yet to address the statement in the book's preface that clearly says "Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound." Finally you hjave yet to address the fact that the book only applies to a small portion of the Scottish Rite.

As I said before, I am not a Mason, but some of the most dedicated Christians I have known were Masons.

Either provide proof to support you allegations or withdraw them.

 

[AoDoA]

I am still waiting for you to reply to my post #637 and provide page references to the material that you said was quoted from the book Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. Since you quoted the material, providing references should be an easy task.

In addition, you have yet to address the statement in the book's preface that clearly says "Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound." Finally you hjave yet to address the fact that the book only applies to a small portion of the Scottish Rite.

As I said before, I am not a Mason, but some of the most dedicated Christians I have known were Masons.

Either provide proof to support you allegations or withdraw them.

http://www.freedom-ministries.com/downlads/Morals-And-Dogma-By-Albert-Pike.pdf

knock yourself out

 

[AoDoA]

YouTube - Jay-Z: Freemason/Illuminati

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtaQ4du0bE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1mU6h4Xdxc

 

[Archivist]

http://www.freedom-ministries.com/downlads/Morals-And-Dogma-By-Albert-Pike.pdf

knock yourself out

I already told you that I had located this item in pdf format. What I asked you for were the specific page numbers for the material you quoted. Sine you stated that the quotations you provided were accurate, I asume that you got them from the original source. Therefore it should be an easy atsk for you to supply page numbers so that I can verify the context .

In addition, you have yet to address the statement in the book's preface that clearly says "Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound." Finally you hjave yet to address the fact that the book only applies to a small portion of the Scottish Rite, not to the Masons as a whole.

 

[AoDoA]

I already told you that I had located this item in pdf format. What I asked you for were the specific page numbers for the material you quoted. Sine you stated that the quotations you provided were accurate, I asume that you got them from the original source. Therefore it should be an easy atsk for you to supply page numbers so that I can verify the context .

In addition, you have yet to address the statement in the book's preface that clearly says "Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound." Finally you hjave yet to address the fact that the book only applies to a small portion of the Scottish Rite, not to the Masons as a whole.

I have read them from the original source as well as on many websites

I'm not doing the work for you

Freemasonry is one of the main vehicles for Satan today

thats the truth and its so plain to see these days

"For further instruction as to the symbolism of the heavenly bodies, and of the sacred
numbers, and of the temple and its details, you must wait patiently until you advance in
Masonry, in the mean time exercising your intellect in studying them for yourself. To
study and seek to interpret correctly the symbols of the Universe, is the work of the sage
and philosopher. It is to decipher the writing of God, and penetrate into His thoughts."

PAGE 8

better?

 

[AoDoA]

“Masonry, like all the religions, all Mysteries, Hermetiscism, and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve to be mislead;”
“So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray. (Morals and Dogma, pp. 104, 105)

 

[AoDoA]

"European mysticism was not dead at the time the United States of America was founded. The hand of the mysteries controlled in the establishment of the new government for the signature of the mysteries may still be seen on the Great Seal of the United States of America. Careful analysis of the seal discloses a mass of occult and Masonic symbols chief among them, the so-called American eagle.... The American eagle upon the Great Seal is but a conventionalized phoenix..."

Manly P. Hall, The Secret Destiny of America


"In Freemasonry is embedded the core or the secret heart of the occult mysteries, wrapped up on number, metaphor and symbol ..." ​

The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom, Benjamin Creme p. 87

 

[Archivist]

I have read them from the original source as well as on many websites

I'm not doing the work for you

I'm not asking you to do my work for me. However, you posted these quotations and said that you were using them in context. If you in fact found them in the original source, you can easily provide the page numbers, which is a basic citation requirement (see Chicago Manual of Style, MLA Handbook, The Bluebook, etc).

Freemasonry is one of the main vehicles for Satan today

You keep saying that, but I have yet to see any proof.

thats the truth and its so plain to see these days

That's you opinion; I have yet to see any proof.

"For further instruction as to the symbolism of the heavenly bodies, and of the sacred numbers, and of the temple and its details, you must wait patiently until you advance in Masonry, in the mean time exercising your intellect in studying them for yourself. To study and seek to interpret correctly the symbols of the Universe, is the work of the sage and philosopher. It is to decipher the writing of God, and penetrate into His thoughts."

PAGE 8

better?

I just looked at page 8 of the scanned copy of this irtem taht is available on Google, and what you quoted is not there.