Are tithes/offerings insurance?

[SUNSTONE]

[this isn't aimed at anyone specific]

Insurance???
Insurance for what??? An american lifestyle???

When people live the american lifestyle and ignore people in need and ignore wisdom you get what you have today.
60% overweight
33% obese
The economy going into the tank.
400K people die each year from tobacco.
Churches closing left and right.
Broken familys at staggering, country colapsing numbers.
1 out of every 9 african americans between the ages of 18-34 are in jail.

And the list goes on and on and on......."But God's in control"......lol whatever......."but the economy is going to get better"..............why? so you can go back to your lazy, gluttonous, lustful, selfish lives????

 

[ydouxist]

This really sucks. I did a good job, and honored the Lord with my work, and took the last of my paycheck and put it in for tithe, then I get this bill equaling the amount I'd have if I kept the tithe.

I got lots of other bills pressing on me, and this little crap unemployment check isn't helping as much as it seemed.

I guess this is what I get for honoring the Lord in my work at the job [to get fired] and what I get for honoring the Lord in my money [to get a bill right after I tithed].

These are the times when you wonder if you have chosen the wrong God, when you did what he said, but it doesn't look like He is willing to do the same.

I'm not being an insensitive jerk, but this sounds like Israel.

What you did you did in faith. Without faith it's impossible to please God. God will honor what you did.
Without tests we would not have testimonies.
Please PM me as to what God does in your circumstances in case I miss it.
Thanks Ydo

 

[Irrkunst]

What you did you did in faith. Without faith it's impossible to please God. God will honor what you did.
Without tests we would not have testimonies.

Or maybe God helped him by giving him the extra $300 and he squandered an opportunity to be helped by following man-made doctrines instead of using the gifts of logic and reason that God gave him.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Along with the act of tithing comes the ASSURANCE that the devourer is rebuked for us.

 

[Irrkunst]

God already gave him the $300 he needed. It seems kind of disrespectful to expect another $300 when he wasn't able to recognize the gift in front of his face the first time.

 

[ydouxist]

Or maybe God helped him by giving him the extra $300 and he squandered an opportunity to be helped by following man-made doctrines instead of using the gifts of logic and reason that God gave him.

Now God is going to teach him a lesson I guess, right?

Sorry tithing is not a man made doctrine. Neither is faith.

 

[~RENEE~]

nope Steve they're not

 

[Irrkunst]

Now God is going to teach him a lesson I guess, right?

No, that is not my point at all. What I am saying is that God doesn't want your family to starve or eat ramen noodles for a month so that some slick preacher can make his car payment.

 

[ydouxist]

No, that is not my point at all. What I am saying is that God doesn't want your family to starve or eat ramen noodles for a month so that some slick preacher can make his car payment.

I don't give to my church. I personally don't agree with how they spend it. I give to individuals that God puts on my heart to give to.

2Cr 8:14 At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. Then there will be equality,

 

[Floatingaxe]

Churches can't run without the faithful tithers. churches that need to hold bake sales and rummage sales lack in tithers.

 

[ydouxist]

Churches can't run without the faithful tithers. churches that need to hold bake sales and rummage sales lack in tithers.

Maybe they need to be walking or try being still.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Maybe they need to be walking or try being still.

Oh! I get it!

 

[Irrkunst]

I don't give to my church. I personally don't agree with how they spend it. I give to individuals that God puts on my heart to give to.

That sounds like a good idea.

 

[Floatingaxe]

It isn't up to us what happens with the tithe. It is God's. Who are we to govern it? The tithe has nothing to do with giving. It is what we pay to God. If you want to have control over where your gifts go, then designate it to your church, but the tithe is out of our hands.

 

[STRICTLY SCRIPTURE]

It isn't up to us what happens with the tithe. It is God's. Who are we to govern it? The tithe has nothing to do with giving. It is what we pay to God. If you want to have control over where your gifts go, then designate it to your church, but the tithe is out of our hands.

Tithing is not for new covenant believers.It was for the levitiacl priesthood,which is now ended.We are not bound by cerimonial law.

Perhaps you wouldnt mind showing where titihing in in the NT?

Again,giving not under compulsion,or only as one has is in the NT,but not tithing.

Thanks you,I will await to see your scripture.

 

[Cassidy]

One thing that you have plenty of, while you're out of work, is time. Why does tithe/offerings have to be just money...why not give of your time???

 

[Floatingaxe]

One thing that you have plenty of, while you're out of work, is time. Why does tithe/offerings have to be just money...why not give of your time???

Look it up in Scripture. Ask God.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Tithing is not for new covenant believers.It was for the levitiacl priesthood,which is now ended.We are not bound by cerimonial law.

Perhaps you wouldnt mind showing where titihing in in the NT?

Again,giving not under compulsion,or only as one has is in the NT,but not tithing.

Thanks you,I will await to see your scripture.

Tithing is in effect and has never ceased. It has been since before the law. If you don't want to obey, then don't. But you cannot go around telling people to disobey God.

 

[ydouxist]

It isn't up to us what happens with the tithe. It is God's. Who are we to govern it? The tithe has nothing to do with giving. It is what we pay to God. If you want to have control over where your gifts go, then designate it to your church, but the tithe is out of our hands.

People are the Church!!!
What did the Apostles do with the money that was brought to them?

Act 4:34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
Act 4:35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

When I give I do it cheerfully.

Act 5:4 Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God."

There will always be those who build "houses of God"
Men love buildings. God loves people.

 

[whatfor]

One thing that you have plenty of, while you're out of work, is time. Why does tithe/offerings have to be just money...why not give of your time???

Why not do both?

And why let working stop you?