Absurdities of so called science

[Nathan Poe]

False!!! Which is the point. Prove it, I stand ready to bust you, and I kid you not, you are mistaken.

So, we're not all related through Noah?

Man is related, yes. But I can't afford 6 billioncards tis year. tough times.

Fret not -- they have no interest in hearing from you.

Maybe. Who cares? That is about exciting as a witch making out with evil spirits, or someone India way climbing a rope. So???

So -- get out of your fishbowl, dad!

 

[dad]

So, we're not all related through Noah?

No? That has what to do with anything, and how do you prove it??

 

[dad]

Whichever way you look at it dad, all humans are related by either a far-distant common ancestor who was possibly an Australopithicus, Homo erectus or even Noah.
So you and I are related, and I don't remember you ever sending me a Christmas card....

No relation via present evolution or any evolution is available, of course, however. That leaves us with your belief based opinion of how the links came to be. Strip away the fictitious pond, And stop ignoring creation, I would say. They have tried to leap from the present evoltion to an imaginary place, where worms are your ancestor. If you look into it, you will see it is simply religion, 100 %.

So, there is no need to embrace cockroaches as little forefathers after all. Have some dignity.

 

[dad]

Whichever way you look at it dad, all humans are related by either a far-distant common ancestor who was possibly an Australopithicus, Homo erectus or even Noah.
So you and I are related, and I don't remember you ever sending me a Christmas card....

No relation via present evolution or any evolution is available, of course, however. That leaves us with your belief based opinion of how the links came to be. Strip away the fictitious pond, And stop ignoring creation, I would say. They have tried to leap from the present evoltion to an imaginary place, where worms are your ancestor. If you look into it, you will see it is simply religion, 100 %.

So, there is no need to embrace cockroaches as little forefathers after all. Have some dignity.

 

[gaara4158]

So, there is no need to embrace cockroaches as little forefathers after all. Have some dignity.

You lost me there. Being more developed than your ancestors takes away from your dignity?

 

[dad]

You lost me there. Being more developed than your ancestors takes away from your dignity?

The dignity is in not pretending insects, and pond scum are ancestors, for no reason. Have any?

 

[thaumaturgy]

The dignity is in not pretending insects, and pond scum are ancestors, for no reason. Have any?

Why is it so important to Creationist types to distance themselves from nature?

Why is their God's creation so beneath them that to think they are part of the continuum an assault on their dignity.

If there is a God I hope he takes these Creationists aside some day and says: "You know, I made all that and you expended all your effort trying to deny it's grandeur and distance yourself from it. What do you think that says to me about what I gave you?"

(just a nice fantasy)

 

[dad]

Why is it so important to Creationist types to distance themselves from nature?

Why is their God's creation so beneath them that to think they are part of the continuum an assault on their dignity.

If there is a God I hope he takes these Creationists aside some day and says: "You know, I made all that and you expended all your effort trying to deny it's grandeur and distance yourself from it. What do you think that says to me about what I gave you?"

(just a nice fantasy)

Then I grab him by the scruff of the neck, and sit him down for a chat. I say, 'Hey, Palsy, you said in your word to man that we were the head honchos, and to have dominion. you said that we were made on a different day, so there could be no relation via evolving possible. I do not deny the grandeur, even in the present state, lord, but neither do I place cockroaches as my equals, and forefathers. so either you get it right, or take a hike'

And I would of course be right.

 

[Gracchus]

Then I grab him by the scruff of the neck, and sit him down for a chat. I say, 'Hey, Palsy, you said in your word to man that we were the head honchos, and to have dominion. you said that we were made on a different day, so there could be no relation via evolving possible. I do not deny the grandeur, even in the present state, lord, but neither do I place cockroaches as my equals, and forefathers. so either you get it right, or take a hike'

And I would of course be right.

And then God says to you, "I didn't say anything of the kind. A superstitious old Jew wrote down some stuff he thought would fill his collection plate. I gave you a mind which you refused to use."

"You are right, though. You are not the equal of a cockroach."

And then he turns upon you the light of heaven, the fire of hell, which is truth, and in that light all the lies upon which you have based your life shrivel and wither, until you and all your overweening pride have vanished utterly, never to pollute the Kingdom.

 

[Nathan Poe]

No? That has what to do with anything, and how do you prove it??

You're the one who suggested it -- stop blathering and answer my question.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Then I grab him by the scruff of the neck, and sit him down for a chat.

And the moment you put your hands on the scruff of God's neck, He smites you.

Even an Atheist such as myself knows that attempting to manhandle a God cannot end well.

I say, 'Hey, Palsy, you said in your word to man that we were the head honchos, and to have dominion. you said that we were made on a different day, so there could be no relation via evolving possible. I do not deny the grandeur, even in the present state, lord, but neither do I place cockroaches as my equals, and forefathers. so either you get it right, or take a hike'

Fundie Pride knows no bounds -- to think that God has to bow and scrape before the likes of you, dad -- that's contemptable.

Suppose God decided not to debase Himself before you? You going to rough Him up a bit?

And I would of course be right.

And of course you would be a pile of smoking ash on the floor -- such is the fate of anyone who tries to challenge a God on His own turf.

 

[dad]

And then God says to you, "I didn't say anything of the kind. A superstitious old Jew wrote down some stuff he thought would fill his collection plate. I gave you a mind which you refused to use."

"You are right, though. You are not the equal of a cockroach."

'Well, actually, god, you led that people directly, if you recall. You made promises to them, and prophesies, most of which were fulfilled, to prove your words were true. Then, you came down, born of a virgin, no less, and rose from the dead promising all that believe in you would do the same. Millions died as martyrs, verifying these facts. The temple was destroyed as you said, and so we know that you are no liar. That is why when you say there was a garden, we know there really was.'

And then he turns upon you the light of heaven, the fire of hell, which is truth, and in that light all the lies upon which you have based your life shrivel and wither, until you and all your overweening pride have vanished utterly, never to pollute the Kingdom.

Then He would be left a liar, because He promised stuff. His word, I have found, is true, the prophesies are true, and science has nothing it can say about it. I think some are starting to question the pile of fables built on the same state past foundation.

 

[dad]

You're the one who suggested it -- stop blathering and answer my question.

Suggested what, how, when? If you think I suggest that Noah was not real, you are sadly mistaken.

 

[dad]

And the moment you put your hands on the scruff of God's neck, He smites you.

So what? Since this entity is just a little liar, I smite him back harder. Why would any fear an impostor, a liar?

Fundie Pride knows no bounds -- to think that God has to bow and scrape before the likes of you, dad -- that's contemptable.

Say what?

Suppose God decided not to debase Himself before you? You going to rough Him up a bit?[/quote] If the god was some liar, yes, of course.

And of course you would be a pile of smoking ash on the floor -- such is the fate of anyone who tries to challenge a God on His own turf.

Nonsense, God cannot lie, so it would be some other god. They are a dime a dozen, and we can mop up the floor with them. Relax.

 

[Nathan Poe]

'Well, actually, god, you led that people directly, if you recall. You made promises to them, and prophesies, most of which were fulfilled, to prove your words were true. Then, you came down, born of a virgin, no less, and rose from the dead promising all that believe in you would do the same.

'What? You actually took those stories as historical fact, and not as interpretive myths? You didn't get that those stories were written by the people the educate and edift themselves?'

Millions died as martyrs, verifying these facts.

'WHAT? You think dying for something makes it true, even though millions of martrys have died for so-called "false" religions throughout history?

'What kind of lunatics did I leave in charge?'

The temple was destroyed as you said, and so we know that you are no liar. That is why when you say there was a garden, we know there really was.'

'The Temple is the center of Jewish worship -- any foreign occupying who wants to hit the Jews where it hurts is going to go after it. Since the Jews were starting up with the Romans, "prophecizing" the destruction of the temple was a sure bet. Worshippers who were paying attention would've seen that.

'Really, dad, I never bothered to tell the Jews much of anything concering origins, so they took a mix of Sumerian, Babylonian, and Egyptian stories and re-wrote them into "The Garden of Eden."

'Since the important thing was that they gave Me the credit, I didn't see it as all that important to correct them on the details.'

Then He would be left a liar, because He promised stuff.

Did He promise stuff, dad, or was that you?

His word, I have found, is true, the prophesies are true, and science has nothing it can say about it. I think some are starting to question the pile of fables built on the same state past foundation.

Actually, we've learned quite a bit about the pile of fables in the Bible -- If I thought you were willing/able to handle it, I'd discuss these with you.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Suggested what, how, when? If you think I suggest that Noah was not real, you are sadly mistaken.

No, you said that Noah was real, but that we are not all related through him.

Do try to follow your own blather.

 

[Nathan Poe]

So what? Since this entity is just a little liar, I smite him back harder. Why would any fear an impostor, a liar?

So, now you're calling God a liar because He's right and you're wrong. Fundie Pride increases exponentially.

Say what?

Figures you wouldn't get it -- anything a Fundie encounters that doesn't glorifythemselves rarely gets through.

If the god was some liar, yes, of course.

And if God is not a liar as you claim, but trying to set you straight on everything you've got wrong -- are you humble enough to consider that perhaps you don't know the mind of God?

Nonsense, God cannot lie, so it would be some other god. They are a dime a dozen, and we can mop up the floor with them. Relax.

"We," Dad? You and you alone are calling God a liar -- don't drag anyone else into your own damnation for challenging Him.

 

[BananaSlug]

Nonsense, God cannot lie, so it would be some other god. They are a dime a dozen, and we can mop up the floor with them. Relax.

Actually...
1 Kings 22:23: "Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in
the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning
thee."

 

[Nathan Poe]

Actually...
1 Kings 22:23: "Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in
the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning
thee."

reading dad's posts, I think I know where one of those spirits is still floating around...

 

[BananaSlug]

I actually find it funny when fundies know less about the Bible than many athiests. I spent much of my time in church service just reading the Bible, which actually helped me to become athiest. Weird huh?