If there was a general election tommorrow how would you vote?

[nan10]

i would pray about it and consider the issues ,and also look into the background of mps ,you can do this on web,then i would vote how the spirit leads

 

[beamishboy]

My Dad'd 'ave had your dad. (He'd've batter him with a copy of Das Kapital.)

If I ever voted for the Tories he'd come back and haunt me. Quite right too. I'd haunt myself if I ever voted for the toffee-nosed capitalist bastids.

Still, the Labour party deserves all it gets for abandoning the working class and sending us into an illegal war.

Labour is so fake. They put on a fake working class accent which grates on my nerves. I may still be young but I can't understand the objections. What's wrong with my school? It's got centuries of history behind it and the world's greatest writers and explorers and scientists hail from my school. It really annoys me how Labour chaps always make a big show when their kids are in Comprehensive schools. And what's wrong with hereditary peerage? My dad can give me his watch and his house but not his title?

 

[artybloke]

And what's wrong with hereditary peerage? My dad can give me his watch and his house but not his title?

The wealth of the rich was stolen from the sweat of the poor. We'd like it back, thanks.

 

[beamishboy]

The wealth of the rich was stolen from the sweat of the poor. We'd like it back, thanks.

The workers who toil on the land of the landowner do so because of the wages they are paid. They've done their work and they've been duly paid. Where is the theft and what else is there to give that isn't criminal extortion?

 

[artybloke]

The workers who toil on the land of the landowner do so because of the wages they are paid.

The landowner stole it in the first place. The land does not belong to anyone.

 

[artybloke]

The workers who toil on the land of the landowner do so because of the wages they are paid.

The landowner stole it in the first place. The land does not belong to anyone.

 

[~Jo~]

I would vote Green just to get all the other greeding Mps out of office and No 10.Cant stand this idiot we have now he should have gone to election when the other thing left Tony Blaire that is and not just took it for granted we wanted him there.

 

[Gremlins]

Labour is so fake. They put on a fake working class accent which grates on my nerves. I may still be young but I can't understand the objections you Commies have. What's wrong with my school? It's got centuries of history behind it and the world's greatest writers and explorers and scientists hail from my school. It really annoys me how Labour chaps always make a big show when their kids are in Comprehensive schools. And what's wrong with hereditary peerage? My dad can give me his watch and his house but not his title?

I really don't understand Commies.

Here's a question: Why should you receive all these benefits? What have you actually done to deserve them other than be born? Why should you benefit from a far superior education when there are people who may be inherently smarter than you, but goes to a Comp in Tower Hamlets? Imagine if we could harness fully the talents of every member of our society, not just allow the top few percent to succeed.

 

[Gremlins]

The workers who toil on the land of the landowner do so because of the wages they are paid. They've done their work and they've been duly paid. Where is the theft and what else is there to give that isn't criminal extortion?

Why should the landowner own the land at all? Why don't the workers own the means of production themselves? That way, the landowner won't be skimming a profit off the top and everyone else will benefit. People in employment are essentially selling their labour for someone else's profit.

If I still live here in the next General Election, I'll be voting Lib Dem. Otherwise, I'll be voting for whoever is most likely to keep any Conservative out.

 

[beamishboy]

Here's a question: Why should you receive all these benefits? What have you actually done to deserve them other than be born? Why should you benefit from a far superior education when there are people who may be inherently smarter than you, but goes to a Comp in Tower Hamlets? Imagine if we could harness fully the talents of every member of our society, not just allow the top few percent to succeed.

This is so hypocritical. It's all right for you to inherit your parents' possessions but not for me. Unless you wish to pretend to us that you'd reject everything. Isn't this the hypocrisy of life? What I stand to inherit is just the right amount. Anything more must have been stolen from the people.

 

[Gremlins]

This is so hypocritical. It's all right for you to inherit your parents' possessions but not for me. Unless you wish to pretend to us that you'd reject everything. Isn't this the hypocrisy of life? What I stand to inherit is just the right amount. Anything more must have been stolen from the people.

There is such a thing as the inheritence tax, you know.

But you still haven't answered the question: Why should people born worse off than you have worse life chances than you?

 

[artybloke]

It's all right for you to inherit your parents' possessions but not for me.

Oh diddums. I do feel sorry for you. My parents owned an end terrace (now sold, because my mother was unable to look after it) and a car. When my mother dies, I'll probably inherit lawyers' bills. I'd gladly give them away to you if you wish.

By the way, I'm not a Commie. Think something begining with "A".

 

[The-Doctor]

watches as the thread goes off topic!!!

 

[shout2thelord]

To quote Laura Ingraham "redistribution of wealth does not mean redistribution of power"

You should be able to earn more without the government stealing it and then waisting in without any real accountability. One issue i have with the welfare state that labour has created is that it disempowers people. It tells you, you should be dependant on the government. Its easier to go on benefits than get a job at the monment.

I beleive ther goverment should provide oporunities for training and encourage people to get jobs, then they could earn more (preferbly without the government taking more in tax). The current welfare system and government tells you, your poor your a victim, you wont be anything so you may as well rely on the government.

Ultimately the redistribution of wealth ends up giving more power to a big central government and not to the people of the nation.

 

[MarcusHill]

To return to the topic, I'd vote Lib Dem - when they eventually come to power (or to hold sway in a hung parliament), I hope they come good on their promises to reform the way voting in this country works, so our votes will actually count and we'll be able to vote on policies rather than "the only party that can realistically beat the current government".

It would be interesting to see if beamishboy gains some sense of reality by the time he's old enough to vote. I used to think along similar lines to him when I was a public schoolboy.

I also used to think it was somhow easier to get by on government handouts than get a job, but then I've never had to get by on benefits. The Daily Mail cartoon of a benefit scrounger is close to nonexistent. There are criminals of all stripes (including benefit fraudsters) who claim benefits, but very few honest people are content to claim rather than find a job.

 

[ScottishJohn]

You should be able to earn more without the government stealing it and then waisting in without any real accountability.

If your government is not held to account then you and your fellow voters are to blame.

One issue i have with the welfare state that labour has created is that it disempowers people. It tells you, you should be dependant on the government. Its easier to go on benefits than get a job at the monment.

I don't think that is true. As Marcus says, those who think living on benefits is easy are generally those who have no idea about what living on benefits is like.

Ultimately the redistribution of wealth ends up giving more power to a big central government and not to the people of the nation.

The power always lies with the people as long as they think, research, vote and lobby. If they delegate all their choices to their MPs, ignore politics between elections and don't bother to find out about those they vote for then they get what they deserve.

 

[Gremlins]

You should be able to earn more without the government stealing it and then waisting in without any real accountability. One issue i have with the welfare state that labour has created is that it disempowers people. It tells you, you should be dependant on the government. Its easier to go on benefits than get a job at the monment.

I beleive ther goverment should provide oporunities for training and encourage people to get jobs, then they could earn more (preferbly without the government taking more in tax). The current welfare system and government tells you, your poor your a victim, you wont be anything so you may as well rely on the government.

No offense, but only someone with minimal experience/knowledge of the welfare system would actually think that. Yes, there are some flaws, but you'd rarely be better off on the dole than you would be working.

Ultimately the redistribution of wealth ends up giving more power to a big central government and not to the people of the nation.

Given that the government is just an expression of the will of the people, there shouldn't be any distinction.

 

[themaninblack1963]

I would vote Conservative if there was no Christian Party standing, I couldnt vote Labour or Liberal they are so anti-christian.

 

[ScottishJohn]

I would vote Conservative if there was no Christian Party standing, I couldnt vote Labour or Liberal they are so anti-christian.

Nonsense. There are plenty of hard working Christians in all of the main stream parties.

 

[Gremlins]

I would vote Conservative if there was no Christian Party standing, I couldnt vote Labour or Liberal they are so anti-christian.

The irony of this is is that Brown (and Blair) are two of the most devoutly religious men in British politics at the moment.