Confessions of a Doctrine Hopper

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Doctrine Hopping: A term I made up for the sake of this thread. Which means jumping between beliefs within Christianity.

How many times have you hopped in your faith walk?

I was raised Pentecostal Holiness

I then hopped to a Charismatic / Lutheran hybrid (gifts of the Spirit coupled with saved by faith alone)

I was tempted at one point to add Christian Universalism to that growing hybrid, but in the end abandoned the notion.

I finally settled on the Assemblies of God because of their broader doctrinal interpretations and acceptance (as a whole)

The Charismatic / Pentecostal part is a make or break issue with me as well.

I agree with about 80% of their postion papers posted at their website.

The parts I don't agree with I think are negligible and really have no significant importance.

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Okay, I’ll give you my spiritual journey, though I like to think of myself as a Doctrinal “Evolver” instead of a Doctrinal Hopper. The following represents my spiritual “evolution” in terms of groups I identify with but certainly does not identify who I am. I hope I am more than just a reflection of a denomination or religious subculture.

I began as a pagan.

Became and atheist in college, moderated to an agnostic, then a theist by the time I was 21.

Was saved in Pentecostal Assemblies of God church and became an AOG minister, eventually pastoring four of their churches over three decades.

After about ten years in the AOG, I began to associate with Charismatics, Full Gospel Businessmen and Jesus People and began to realize that Pentecostalism was a suit that did not fit me well and theologically drifted from them on many of their core beliefs but retained my ordination with them until the mid-90s, the last ten years of which I spent as a businessman outside of professional pastoral/teaching ministry.

During my ten years away from pastoral ministry I keep a close eye on the Vineyard, which I had been exposed to the mid-80’s, but while I appreciated their beliefs and values I did not like the direction they went toward the KC prophetic movement and the Toronto “Mixed” Blessing. When they disassociated with those movements just prior to Wimber’s death they once again appealed to me, joined their fellowship around 2000 and am now planting a Vineyard church.
 
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I was saved in a Church of God, (Pentecostal, but not “oneness”)

I was taught there that if I was not very careful I would loose my salvation.

After high school I wound up in an Evangelical Methodist church. This was in 1980 and

there was a big Charismatic thing going on. Our pastor was Spirit filled but he was very covert about it in the denomination.

Our next pastor there was not Spirit filled (I’m really not sure he was saved )

So, we wound up in a non-denom former Cumberland Presbyterian (Former because the pastor was fired because he became Charismatic)

Since then except for a year with Vineyard we have been of the non-denom flavor.

John O.
 
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By Christian Universalism are you refering to Universal Reconcilliation?
I was under the impression for awhile that God was going to figure a way to save everyone.

I still believe things are not cut and dry like fundmentalism would teach. Take Doubting Thomas for example. He said he would not believe until he thrust his hand in his side and stuck his finger in the whole of Jesus' hand.

Jesus still said he was blessed ... just not as blessed as those who had not seen.


I now think God wants to save everyone, but everyone does not want to be saved.

Generally speaking ... I think people who go to hell are like the person that hangs on to the 10,000 pound weight as it sinks to the ocean floor.

People who hang on to pride, their sinful nature, indifference, etc... I think they run from the light, because they don't want it to be made known that what they cherish is wrong / sin because they don't want to let go of it.

I would not presume to know how God is going to judge ... I simply hope in his mercy that is seen and ultimately accepted or rejected in it's completeness in Jesus Christ.
 
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I guess you can call it doctrine hopping, but not really, more like there must me more.

I was raised in a Baptist church by my parents. I was saved at 9 years old. A real tangible event in my life as a child. Later, my parents had some friends that invited us to their church. A Penticostal Holiness church. I think I was about 13. I was truely amazed at seeing people praying in tongues, and praising God, being filled with the Holy Spirit. I didn't dare ask my parents what they thought about it as being Baptist, but it stuck in my mind until I was 18 years old. Then was invited to a tent revival being held in a vacant lot behind my house. It was and Oral Roberts tent revival. Saw people being healed, and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Then I was filled too. Started attending an AOG church. Then when I was about 35 the Word movement was getting started. Been there ever since. I truely believe that God was in the details of this journey. I have learned so much from each experiance, no matter where He led me.
 
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I was baptised, raised, and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church.

In 1996, I started attending Harvest Christian Fellowship, which is a Calvary Chapel church. When I moved from Southern California to Northern California, I started attending Calvary Chapel Monterey Bay.
 
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I have changed my beliefs on a few things but I don't hop from doctrine to doctrine. I think that would be discribing a double minded person.

I have wavered on OSAS though. Ironically I have taken the middle ground on this doctrine. Other than that there are some doctrines that I'm just not that knowledgeable in.
I don't think it would necessarily be double-minded. As we grow and mature in our faith, the Holy Spirit reveals new things to us, and moves us to where He wants us to be. :)
 
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I don't think it would necessarily be double-minded. As we grow and mature in our faith, the Holy Spirit reveals new things to us, and moves us to where He wants us to be. :)
Your definition of doctrine hopping and my definition of doctrine hopping is different then. I am currently growing and maturing in my faith but I am not hopping from doctrine to doctrine, changing my belief according to when the wind lows.
 
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Oh, let's see...

Raised as a non-practicing Lutheran (not even Christmas and Easter). Considered myself "Christian," but really was more of a generic theist.

Got saved during winter trimester of my sophomore year at college, in the privacy of my dorm room.

Attended the campus interdenominational fellowship.

When I transfered to the "main" campus, I began attending the campus fellowship of the local CMA church. "Contemporary" praise and worship style, and a little bit of charismatic stuff going on. The pastor was Spirit-filled.

Was disappointed to find that "typical" CMA churches feature more "traditional" worship styles, and are not charismatic.

Discovered a Christian coffeehouse in my hometown. Friends there invited me to their church. I was curious, but since I knew it was Pentecostal, I was apprehensive.

After studying some teaching tapes by Pat Robertson, I got filled with the Spirit, again in the privacy of my own room. That was right around five years after I got saved. I immediately visited my friends' church, and felt completely at home with its contemporary worship style. I began attending regularly, and soon found myself on the ushering, greeting, and custodial staffs.

For several years, I eagerly embraced that church's doctrines -- Pentecostal, WoF (but not as hard-core as some), neo-holy-roller (my term; we had the "holy laughter" stuff several years before Toronto hit the news), gender-hierarchialism, Pre-Trib eschatology, etc.

I eventually began to question almost all of it. I saw inconsistencies with Scripture, and factual and other problems with the "Father of Word-Faith's" visions.

On exiting that church, I briefly went so far as to dabble with Calvinism, but found there are too many Scriptures that just don't fit.

Visited several churches over the years, but never really "stuck" anywhere. *Sort of* fit in at a local Calvary Chapel, but it closed.

I've benefited a lot from the works of Gordon Fee, Craig Keener, Malcolm Smith, and a bit from Pat Robertson.

Like Fee, I disagree with the AG on the issues of "separate and subsequent" and "initial evidence." I do not believe Scripture supports "messages" in tongues, though it also does not absolutely rule them out. However, with Pentecostals and contra most Charismatics, I agree that "tongues" is intended for all believers.

I would have trouble embracing the "holiness" aspect of the AG, since to me it smacks of legalism.

I've become convinced and convicted that Scripture supports gender egalitarianism, and would at the very least feel out of place in a body committed to "leadership is male" theology.

My soteriology is probably what Robert Picirilli would call "Reformation Arminianism." I am Arminian on all points, and in regard to "Eternal Security," I believe one cannot "lose" salvation, but can conceivably, at least in theory, choose to abandon it -- and that such a choice is irrevocable.

I do not have a firm eschatological stance, other than I think "Pre-Trib" is the *least* likely option.

Um... Did I leave out anything?
 
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Grew up Roman Catholic until I was 29... was wanting "more".... got saved by myself in a Catholic church all alone on a weekday morning. Left the Catholic church shortly after and attended a non-denominational church that had some Baptist affiliation. Learned a lot about the Word and became a lay leader.

Then I got Spirit-filled, again all by myself, at home.. there were a few of us in the church who were Spirit-filled and it caused a big ruckus. One of these Spirit-filled men led me to WOF (preachers and teaching) and I knew I found the "more" I was looking for! I finally knew God was not this meanie ready to clobber me, but loved me and wanted me healthy and blessed to be a blessing - wow!!:bow:

We were witch-hunted out of the church and called heretics..... :eek: my first taste of church politics and differing doctrine. The good part is that it taught me to be sure of my faith, what I believe, and not dissuaded by those who try to tell me what I have is not truth.

I ended up at a wonderful AoG church where the pastor was about as close to WOF as he could get! I was there for many years... until there was a church split because some people were mad the Spirit was "moving too much" :o

There are not many WOF churches within reasonable driving distance to us, so we ended up at a non-denominational Pentecostal church and were leaders/teachers there for a few years. They had many members who were leftover UPC's and very legalistic... we ended up leaving, but staying very close to the pastor.
 
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Wow... you guys have had some experience in and out of the Word I can see. Praise God that he leads us. I am especially blessed by the testimonies of those who have found more in Christ. He is the true bread of life. Well for me I was saved in 99, put a paper out in front of me and asked the Lord where he wanted me to live. He pointed it out and I moved next door to an older gentleman in his 70's which was my land lord. The Lord told me to tell them He had sent me. I ended up getting into conversation with him one day and it came about he was a Godly man even a called teacher that practices out side the structure of todays denominations. This was right in line with what God was doing with me. Jesus has never allowed me to take on any other head or structure than His name and body. I accept all my brother and sisters in Christ as new creatures in His kingdom. The Lord has been teaching me the reason he died and rose again so he could dwell in us and make us one new creation with out division. The true message is about Christ in you the hope of Glory! So I have really been enjoying coming to know my true identity in Christ. I don't have any fancy affiliations to describe my understanding. I guess I don't label what I know because it is Christ who justifies all men and gives them life. So I just see us as one big family. Some know who they are and what they have in Christ and some are learning. God is pleased with all his children because we are born of his spirit. Praise God!
 
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I bounced around lots of Churches up until I turned 18 years old. They included Southern Baptist, Four Square Gospel, Nazorene, United Pentecostal, and a range of others. At 18, I went to some Catholic classes in order to learn what was needed to marry my fiance. I ended up converting to the Catholic Church in 1955, was Born again and Spirit Filled at my Baptism and it was manifested the day after, became Charismatic in about 1968 and opened my Spiritual Gifts and Have bloomed where God planted me for the last 53 years.
 
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The connotation of hopping I used is probably a little strong for the made up definition in the OP.

I never have really hopped ...liked switched churches or moved around from movement to movement...it was all basically in my thought process that whic is what I was describing.
 
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