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No Physical Difference Between the Geocentric Model and the Modern Heliocentric View

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It's really very simple, and I've explained it. I'll try to simplify again.

Excellent. Want to explain where the "10 days" comes in again?

You realise that your inability to comprehend "model" really ruins any credibility for anything else you might say, don't you?
 
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OK. Then you must understand that the sun, and the stars which are focused on the sun, must move in order to produce the day/night cycle correct?
Why are the stars focused on the Sun? I thought that the Earth was the center of the Universe, not just the sun, moon and the few satellites that we have popped up there. BTW yes I do know.
 
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Excellent. Want to explain where the "10 days" comes in again?

You realise that your inability to comprehend "model" really ruins any credibility for anything else you might say, don't you?

It's 1 day. I made a mistake.
 
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Why are the stars focused on the Sun? I thought that the Earth was the center of the Universe, not just the sun, moon and the few satellites that we have popped up there. BTW yes I do know.
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Because within the Modified Tycho Brahe System, the stars are moving with the sun. The sun is the geometric center of the universe while the earth is the dynamic center. Meaning that the stars / galaxies / universe go around the sun while the sun goes around the earth.
 
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OK. So you understand that in the heliocentric system the parallax of a star will seem like it's changing throughout the day / night -- even though the stars aren't actually moving because of the earth's rotation?
A star’s parallax doesn’t change over a 24 hour period, it takes 365 days.
 
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A star’s parallax doesn’t change over a 24 hour period, it takes 365 days.

But it will seem like the star is moving within the 24 hour period, because of the rotation of the earth within the heliocentric system.
 
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OK. So you understand that in the heliocentric system the parallax of a star will seem like it's changing throughout the day / night -- even though the stars aren't actually moving because of the earth's rotation?


Well, I am sure it will come as no surprise to anyone that RichardT doesn't actually know what stellar parallax is. Well done mate. Any other concepts you completely misunderstand that you would like to explain?

Stellar parallax shifts over the year, as the Earth revolves around the sun. and shifts its physical position in space.

It has nothing to do with daily rotation.

Your knowledge on this subect actually declines from post to post. Fascinating.
 
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Darn. I think I have to rethink some things.


Do us all a favour mate, and do some actual "thinking" OK? Don't just wholesale cut and paste some article because it has the word "geocentric" in it. Take some time to try and work out what the article is saying. ...and please stop listing literature that is 50-150 years old, it is largely irrelevant beyond historical interest.
 
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If I were to measure parallax of the star in china, then measure it at the same time in Canada, it would make a difference.
You have to have two separate locations in order to measure a star’s parallax. The Earth is not large enough to create a noticeable difference so we have to wait a 183 days to get measure the stellar parallax since the difference would be 2 AU rather than only a few thousand kilometers.
 
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If I were to measure parallax of the star in china, then measure it at the same time in Canada, would it make a difference?


You are not measuring the parallax, you are measuring distance and direction. parallax is the difference between the readings.

And the answer is no. The distance between China and Canada is so small on a galactic scale that we do not have any instruments fine enough to see any difference. We need the distance between the earth at 6 month periods to make valid measurements,and even that only works for "close" stars.
 
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You have to have two separate locations in order to measure a star’s parallax. The Earth is not large enough to create a noticeable difference so we have to wait a 183 days to get measure the stellar parallax since the difference would be 2 AU rather than only a few thousand kilometers.

I'm aware of that. Man I'm so confused. What I do know however is that any parallax measurement works within the Geocentric system, as I've shown from measurements of the first day of summer and the first day of winter, since that's when the measurements are taken.
 
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I'm aware of that. Man I'm so confused. What I do know however is that any parallax measurement works within the Geocentric system, as I've shown from measurements of the first day of summer and the first day of winter, since that's when the measurements are taken.
We will see this.
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You are not measuring the parallax, you are measuring distance and direction. parallax is the difference between the readings.

And the answer is no. The distance between China and Canada is so small on a galactic scale that we do not have any instruments fine enough to see any difference. We need the distance between the earth at 6 month periods to make valid measurements,and even that only works for "close" stars.

Yes. I understand this, at least I'm supposed to understand this. I know that the earth only has a diameter of about 8000m, while the distance between the earth in the summer time and the earth in the winter time within the heliocentric system is obviously multitudes larger. Some of the questions that I ask may sound really stupid only because I'm really just trying to understand some things that are truly confusing me.
 
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We will see this.
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As I've shown, we will see exactly the same thing in the Geocentric system for when these measurements are taken. The example that I've used was the first day of winter and the first day of summer.

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As I've shown, we will see exactly the same thing in the Geocentric system for when these measurements are taken. The example that I've used was the first day of winter and the first day of summer.

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No. Your system says that a complete cycle should take 24 hours. Is this really that hard to understand?
 
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