No Physical Difference Between the Geocentric Model and the Modern Heliocentric View

[lemmings]

The ether has some to and fro motion.

Where does this substantial amount of energy come from? Why don’t we see it on objects like the moon or satellites?

 

[RichardT]

If stellar parallax were the result of the sun going around the stationary Earth then it would take place over the course of a day not a year. Fail!

A second common misconception is related to the first and that is that the geocentric universe requires that the sun orbit the earth once per year. Again, this is not the case. In a geocentric universe Newton’s (or Einstein’s) laws must be fulfilled just as in a heliocentric universe. Newton’s law of gravity states that from the sun’s perspective, the earth must be seen to revolve about it once per year. It matters not to the sun whether the earth actually does so or appears to do so; remember that we are talking about relative motion, not absolute. If the firmament were to possess a wobble (about which we will say later) which carries the sun, planets, and stars about the earth once a year in such a way that the earth seems to describe an orbit around the sun, then the sun and the universe are content that the law of gravity is being satisfied. Remember, the physics of the universe which specify the law of gravity is fastened to the firmament, not the earth or sun.

oh rly

 

[RichardT]

Where does this substantial amount of energy come from? Why don’t we see it on objects like the moon or satellites?

In the heliocentric system, the earth would wobble. In the geocentric system it is the ether which must do the motion. The ether is a physical medium where all the laws of physics work within, it doesn't need any energy to function.

 

[lemmings]

oh rly

If it takes the sun 8760 hours to go around the Earth and the Earth is stationary, why aren’t days 8760 hours long?

 

[lemmings]

In the heliocentric system, the earth would wobble. In the geocentric system it is the ether which must do the motion. The ether is a physical medium where all the laws of physics work within, it doesn't need any energy to function.

The Earth does no such thing in the heliocentric system. The wobble is an illusion as a result of the Earth’s axis of rotation being 23.45 degrees away from perpendicular to the plain on which we rotate around the sun.

 

[RichardT]

If it takes the sun 8760 hours to go around the Earth and the Earth is stationary, why aren’t days 8760 hours long?

Because your math is false. It absolutely does not take 365 days for the sun to go around the earth. It actually takes about 1 days within the Geocentric system.

Each spiral is about 1 days long, while it takes the sun about half a year to get from the X to the sun in this diagram, and then another half year to get back up again. The X is the first day of summer while where the sun is in the diagram is the first day of winter.

 

[lemmings]

Because your math is false. It absolutely does not take 365 days for the sun to go around the earth. It actually takes about 10 days within the Geocentric system.

You just told me I was wrong for saying that it took a 24 hours in post 139.

 

[lemmings]

If stellar parallax were the result of the sun going around the stationary Earth then it would take place over the course of a day not a year. Fail!

Bump

 

[RichardT]

The Earth does no such thing in the heliocentric system. The wobble is an illusion as a result of the Earth’s axis of rotation being 23.45 degrees away from perpendicular to the plain on which we rotate around the sun.

All of this motion can be accounted for the rotating mass of the plenum ether.

 

[RichardT]

You just told me I was wrong for saying that it took a 24 hours in post 139.

NM, SORRY, MY MISTAKE.

 

[lemmings]

All of this motion can be accounted for the rotating mass of the plenum ether.

Except for the seasonal variations in the Sun’s latitude and the stellar parallax cycles that take 365 days.

 

[lemmings]

Darn. Must have been a stupid mistake, I'm sorry. I learn from mistakes

You're only a Homo sapien.

 

[RichardT]

You just told me I was wrong for saying that it took a 24 hours in post 139.

Oh. That is true. Sorry, I'm reading this wrong. Post 139 is your post. Oh, it takes 1 day, I was trying to rationalize what I thought Bouw had said.

Yes that makes sense.

The sun traces out the indicated path in the course of the year. Each adjacent layer in the helix represents one day. The sun’s position is at its lowest point, on the first day of winter. The sun spirals upward, one rotation per day, until it reaches its northernmost point, marked by the X. It then starts a down-ward spiral, again crossing the equator and back to its southernmost point where it started from. Each spiral is actually about ten days, so the figure shows a year of 36 days. North is up, so it is clear that the sun shines most on the northern hemisphere in summer (at the X) and most on the southern hemisphere in winter (“Sun”). The figure below shows only the first day of summer (top), the first days of spring and fall (center), and the first day of winter (bottom). (The earth’s size is greatly enlarged.)

 

[lemmings]

Oh. That is true. Sorry, I'm reading this wrong. Post 139 is your post. It takes about 10 days in the Geocentric system.

wait... that doesn't make sense to me at all.

Where did 10 days come from? I still haven't figured out why the Sun and stars operate on a 365.24 day cycle and now you're adding more numbers!

 

[LeeC]

LOL. Careful or RichardT will call you a member of the Thought Police and then put you on ignore.

Thanks

I will take care but isn't this what Morton's demon is all about?

Lee

 

[RichardT]

Where did 10 days come from? I still haven't figured out why the Sun and stars operate on a 365.24 day cycle and now you're adding more numbers!

These are the motions of the Modified Tycho Brahe System. They allow for stellar parallax.

 

[Maxwell511]

Oh. That is true. Sorry, I'm reading this wrong. Post 139 is your post. It takes about 10 days in the Geocentric system.

Yes that makes sense.

What force causes this motion, young Dad?

 

[RichardT]

Thank you guys for the debate, I now understand my position a lot more than I did before.

 

[RichardT]

What force causes this motion, young Dad?

The plenum ether.

 

[Maxwell511]

The plenum ether.

Don't know what that is exactly, though I think that it might relate to some 19th century thinking.

But anyway how does the ether cause that movement of the sun? The motion is not consistant with a uniform force, why is the ether liking the up and down spiral thing.

Richard, I am calling Poe. Someone cannot be stupid enough to believe what you claim to believe in real life.