In the creationist sub-forum, the following was posted:
FallingWaters, could you please demonstrate for us, empirically, God's effects on visible matter? And if you yourself are incapable of demonstrating this (as I very strongly suspect you are), could you please provide some experimental data that demonstrates, empirically, God's effects on visible matter? And if you are still unable to do so (as I also very strongly suspect you are) would you mind retracting the unsupported statement you made in that sub-forum thread?
In this post, FallingWaters claimed that God's presence can be inferred from God's effects on visible matter.FallingWaters said:I was just reading the wiki on Dark Matter when the first sentence struck me.
Many times in my life, I have heard or seen atheistic objections to belief in God because He is invisible,
so we can't prove He is there.
Yet apparently, atheists don't have any trouble believing in invisible things when it suits their agenda.
Dark Matter
"In astrophysics and cosmology, dark matter refers to hypothetical matter of unknown composition that does not emit or reflect enough electromagnetic radiation to be observed directly, but whose presence can be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter."
In a very similar way, I could describe God!
i.e. God is someone who does not emit or reflect enough electromagnetic radiation to be observed directly, but whose presence can be inferred from [His] effects on visible matter.
Just an observation.
FallingWaters, could you please demonstrate for us, empirically, God's effects on visible matter? And if you yourself are incapable of demonstrating this (as I very strongly suspect you are), could you please provide some experimental data that demonstrates, empirically, God's effects on visible matter? And if you are still unable to do so (as I also very strongly suspect you are) would you mind retracting the unsupported statement you made in that sub-forum thread?