Temporary Policy Measure -- Only Creationists may post in this forum

[Letalis]

Creationist forum members,

God's peace be with you.

As a temporary measure, until further notice, all non-Creationist members will no longer be allowed to post in the "Creationism" subforum.

The following theories are considered "Creationist" for the purpose of this forum:

Young Earth Creationism
Old Eerth Creationism
Gap Theory
Day Age Creationism

Any non-Creationist posts will be deleted for rule 2.8 -- off-topic. Warnings will be issued to non-Creationists that continue to post in this forum after being instructed not to.

Any questions that a non-Creationist forum member has for Creationists can be asked in the Origins Theology forum. Fellowship between Creationists and TEs can take place in the "Krazy Kafeteria," stickied in the Origins Theology forum.

We do this in the hopes of allowing Creationists, and Theistic Evolutionists, a safe haven in their individual forums.

Blessings,

Letalis
Administrator
Team Theology

 

[keyarch]

Creationist forum members,

God's peace be with you.

As a temporary measure, until further notice, all non-Creationist members will no longer be allowed to post in the "Creationism" subforum.

The following theories are considered "Creationist" for the purpose of this forum:

Young Earth Creationism
Old Eerth Creationism
Gap Theory
Day Age Creationism

You know, even though I listed these myself in the other thread as being "Creationist", I'm wondering if they should be reviewed in more depth. Also, there should (if not already) be links for each one that explain their definitions, so people could understand how they might relate to "creationism".

I'm sure some general categories (such as OEC) may have sub-categories. In other words, as a Young Biological Creationist, I wouldn't want to be in any one of those specific categories. Maybe upon administrator approval, others could be added with their definitions.

 

[constance]

We are currently evaluating different permanent solutions. We will be re-evaluating in a month with a poll about the policy to see how the members of each forum feel this temporary policy has worked.

 

[vossler]

The following theories are considered "Creationist" for the purpose of this forum:

Young Earth Creationism
Old Earth Creationism
Gap Theory
Day Age Creationism

I don't know about everyone else but I truly don't know of any OECs, Gapists or Day Agers that post with any sort of regularity here. If they do I confess I'm not aware of them. I say that because I personally would like to see, if possible, this subforum identified solely as YEC.

On another note, I personally don't have a problem with TEs or any other group coming in here to ask questions or to fellowship. The criteria or rules I'd like to see implemented to govern this would be:

1. Do not challenge anything said; if a question has to be worded where it can be interpreted as a challenge take it to OT.
2. Questions should be asked only in an effort to better understand an outside position contrary or foreign to their own. Think of it like going into a foreign country and how one might ask.
3. If the need to bring a topic to OT exists, do so without posting a link or name unless previous authorization to do so is given.

Really nothing but common courtesy.

 

[mark kennedy]

I actually am aware of a couple of OECs but they are biological young earth creationists. I am sort of a gaper, I think there may well be a gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. For me this logically separates all the gibberish about dating of geological formations from essential doctrine. Biological evolution as natural history on the other hand directly contradicts the clear testimony of Scripture and should not be mistaken for Creationism.

By the way, I wholeheartedly support the temporary measure and look forward to the final outcome. It was a creative solution to a constant problem and I am relieved that Creationists can interact without being targeted by the more contentious aspects of the creation/evolution controversy.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[FallingWaters]

I am really enjoying the freedom from attack here lately.

 

[juvenissun]

Hi, All:

I could not find a place to start a new thred. So forgive me on that.

Some YEC people suggested the concept of apparent age for everything that seems to be older than they like to see. A good argument is the creation of Adam and Eve as adults. Personally, I find nothing wrong with this concept. However, I like to know how would Christians who have different idea argue about this suggestion. For example, OEC must oppose it with good reasons. Anyone like to voice one reason to against it?

 

[Scotishfury09]

Hi, All:

I could not find a place to start a new thred. So forgive me on that.

Some YEC people suggested the concept of apparent age for everything that seems to be older than they like to see. A good argument is the creation of Adam and Eve as adults. Personally, I find nothing wrong with this concept. However, I like to know how would Christians who have different idea argue about this suggestion. For example, OEC must oppose it with good reasons. Anyone like to voice one reason to against it?

Hi! Welcome!

For future reference there are big buttons on the top and bottom left of the forums that say "New Thread"

Regarding the idea that the universe could be created with age: One has to ask why God would choose deception in the universe. Evidence of fossils is a good argument for this. Many other people with more knowledge on the subject might be better suited to answer these questions, but fossil records would show that many animals would have been created already dead and fossilized. It seems trivial to assume this. Some would say that the process that determines the ages of fossils has problems but if we assume your theory then they really are that old. There's more to this argument, but that's what I understand to be one of the main points.

Feel free to ask here or private message me if you have any more questions.

 

[juvenissun]

For future reference there are big buttons on the top and bottom left of the forums that say "New Thread"

Regarding the idea that the universe could be created with age: One has to ask why God would choose deception in the universe. Evidence of fossils is a good argument for this. [/QUOTE]

Sometime I saw it, sometime I don't. When I start to read one thread, I do not see the new thread button.

The cheating God argument is a cheap one. God does not cheat. Instead, people need to know better. Blame God for cheating is simply like blaming everyone else but self.

If God created things with apparent age, God also created a system so that the apparent age will be truly apparent, not just deceiving. The system is what we called science, physical and biological sciences. When we exam Adam, he is created as adult with all the adult physiology. When God created Earth, the earth looks old with all the geology built in it. If we do not look at God, but look at the geology, everyone would conclude that the earth is old. Because God created geology at the same time.

From this point of view, the YEC and the OEC are both right. Because there is no contradiction in God.

 

[FallingWaters]

Please move your discussion.
You are off topic.

I started a new thread for you here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t5296970-apparent-age-of-universe-and-earth.html#post34487388

 

[FallingWaters]

Creationist forum members,

God's peace be with you.

As a temporary measure, until further notice, all non-Creationist members will no longer be allowed to post in the "Creationism" subforum.

The following theories are considered "Creationist" for the purpose of this forum:

Young Earth Creationism
Old Eerth Creationism
Gap Theory
Day Age Creationism

Any non-Creationist posts will be deleted for rule 2.8 -- off-topic. Warnings will be issued to non-Creationists that continue to post in this forum after being instructed not to.

Any questions that a non-Creationist forum member has for Creationists can be asked in the Origins Theology forum. Fellowship between Creationists and TEs can take place in the "Krazy Kafeteria," stickied in the Origins Theology forum.

We do this in the hopes of allowing Creationists, and Theistic Evolutionists, a safe haven in their individual forums.

Blessings,

Letalis
Administrator
Team Theology

I have been enjoying this feature.
Is it going to stay this way?

 

[FallingWaters]

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