My Understanding: As I was praying for understanding of this dream in relation to these passages of scripture, all of a sudden the Lord brought to mind the picture of this pool in the dream – the shape of it, where I was standing, where the woman was located, and where the other people were coming from. I had the feeling that the woman was Israel, so I looked at my globe and it looked like where I was standing was in Libya, so I Googled news on Libya, and the first article was written from Cairo. A light bulb turned on inside my head. I had remembered reading that Barack Obama had recently given a speech in Cairo, so I looked at Cairo on the map on Google maps and then I saw that the peninsula that I was standing on at the pool of water was Cairo, Egypt, based upon the location of Israel on the map, and the pool was the Mediterranean Sea. Also Cush, in chapter 18, was located in Egypt.
President Obama’s Cairo Speech Transcript President Obama’s Cairo Speech Transcript Joe Duck
The purpose of the president’s trip to Cairo was to “seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world…” He stated, “Islam is part of America,” and “I believe that America holds within her the truth that regardless of race, religion, or station in life, all of us share common aspirations… to love our families, our communities, and our God. These are the things we share.”
A little further into his speech, he referenced the events of 9/11 and stated something to the effect that fear and anger led us “to act contrary to our traditions and our ideals.” The implication was that this fear caused us to stereotype all Muslims and that is what separated us, but now we were going to work at getting back together. He did state that our enemy is the extremists and that there is a partnering; a coalition of 46 countries to come against these religious extremists.
Then, he went on to the subject of Israel. He acknowledged Israel’s history and the oppression they have faced and their right to exist as an independent nation. But, then he went on to tell how the Palestinians have been without a home for over 60 years (a reference, I believe, to when Israel became a nation in 1948). He stated that America would not turn our backs on the “legitimate Palestinian aspiration” for a state of their own. He stated that the two groups have been in a “stalemate” for decades. And, he said that if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be “blind to the truth.” The only solution is a two-state one.
He went on to state this about Israel: “Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel’s right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine’s. The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements. This construction violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace. It is time for these settlements to stop.”
He continued: “Too many tears have been shed. Too much blood has been shed. All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer.”
Continuing on with his speech he stated: “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance…” “This tolerance is essential for religion to thrive.” “In fact, faith should bring us together. And that’s why we’re forging service projects in America to bring together Christians, Muslims, and Jews. That’s why we welcome efforts like Saudi Arabian King Abdullah’s interfaith dialogue and Turkey’s leadership in the Alliance of Civilizations. Around the world, we can turn dialogue into interfaith service, so bridges between peoples lead to action — whether it is combating malaria in Africa, or providing relief after a natural disaster.”
Towards the end of his speech, he made these statements: “I know there are many — Muslim and non-Muslim — who question whether we can forge this new beginning. Some are eager to stoke the flames of division, and to stand in the way of progress. Some suggest that it isn’t worth the effort — that we are fated to disagree, and civilizations are doomed to clash. Many more are simply skeptical that real change can occur. There’s so much fear, so much mistrust that has built up over the years. But if we choose to be bound by the past, we will never move forward. And I want to particularly say this to young people of every faith, in every country — you, more than anyone, have the ability to reimagine the world, to remake this world. All of us share this world for but a brief moment in time. The question is whether we spend that time focused on what pushes us apart, or whether we commit ourselves to an effort — a sustained effort — to find common ground, to focus on the future we seek for our children, and to respect the dignity of all human beings.
“It’s easier to start wars than to end them. It’s easier to blame others than to look inward. It’s easier to see what is different about someone than to find the things we share. But we should choose the right path, not just the easy path. There’s one rule that lies at the heart of every religion — that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. (Applause.) This truth transcends nations and peoples — a belief that isn’t new; that isn’t black or white or brown; that isn’t Christian or Muslim or Jew. It’s a belief that pulsed in the cradle of civilization, and that still beats in the hearts of billions around the world. It’s a faith in other people, and it’s what brought me here today.
“We have the power to make the world we seek, but only if we have the courage to make a new beginning, keeping in mind what has been written.
“The Holy Koran tells us: “O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.”
“The Talmud tells us: “The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace.”
The Holy Bible tells us: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.” (Applause.)
“The people of the world can live together in peace. We know that is God’s vision. Now that must be our work here on Earth…”
Ok, so how does this relate to Isaiah 17-18 and to this dream? I believe the dream was about this speech. And, I am representing the USA who is being represented here by Barack Obama.
As I read this speech and then compared it to the dream and to the scriptures, the Lord gave me this understanding: The couple that had split and that “we” were trying to get back together is Islam and Zionism, i.e. Islam in combination with Judaism and Christianity and/or the Palestinians and Israel in a two-state solution side-by-side, and/or Muslim nations and America. And, the “we” is America, represented by our president, Barack Obama.
The pool represents the nations like the many waters represented many peoples in Revelation and like what is spoken of here in 17:12-14. The pool or the many nations are nations that are rising up against God and against God’s people. I believe this is this “new beginning” that President Obama is talking about, which involves a new world order and a new world religion, which brings all religions under one god and that punishes those who are narrow-minded and who do not tolerate all faiths.
Do you see where this is going? Soon Christians and Jews alike will be persecuted for their faith because they believe in the One true God. We will be tagged as “intolerant.” We will be classified among the “religious extremists” who think their faith is the only one. Barack Obama claims to be a Christian, but everything in this speech shows that he is truly not one, because to be a believer in Jesus Christ is to believe that Jesus is the Only Way to Heaven and to the One and Only True God the Father.
Getting into the water, I believe, symbolizes this joining of these nations together in a coalition that will form this one world order and one world religion. Yet, the Lord is saying that the timing is not right just yet for this, so he is going to rebuke the nations, including the U.S.A. From that judgment on the nations will come revival, I believe (see vv. 17:7-8). The reason for the judgment on the nations is that they have forgotten God, their Savior. They have not remembered the Rock, their fortress – Jesus is our Savior and our Rock and our Fortress and our mighty deliver!
The sunburn on my back (on the back of America) represents this judgment that is coming upon us like judgments in our past (9/11). Perhaps it is hot because it will take place in the summer and perhaps it is hot because the judgment will come in the form of fire. Even though I looked over my shoulder to see this sunburn, I proceeded into the water anyway. I believe this is ignoring the past and the many messages of impending judgment and going ahead with our plans anyway.
The looting spoken of in v. 14 of chp 17, I believe, is a reference to both taking away our freedom to believe in Jesus Christ as the Only Way, and it is also a reference to our taking away Israel’s land from them. And, God will judge us for that.
I had the impression in the dream that the woman was blind. Obama stated that if we see this Israeli-Palestinian conflict from only one side, then we are blind to the truth. Obama appears to be pulling the wool over Israel’s eyes.
Lastly, we had visited Providence Church. I believe this means the providence of God, that the crib is symbolic of Jesus and spiritual birth and that the money is the free gift of salvation. Obama, in promoting this “all for one” view of religion is thus downplaying the true meaning of what it means to be a Christian. God help us!
President Obama’s Cairo Speech Transcript President Obama’s Cairo Speech Transcript Joe Duck
The purpose of the president’s trip to Cairo was to “seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world…” He stated, “Islam is part of America,” and “I believe that America holds within her the truth that regardless of race, religion, or station in life, all of us share common aspirations… to love our families, our communities, and our God. These are the things we share.”
A little further into his speech, he referenced the events of 9/11 and stated something to the effect that fear and anger led us “to act contrary to our traditions and our ideals.” The implication was that this fear caused us to stereotype all Muslims and that is what separated us, but now we were going to work at getting back together. He did state that our enemy is the extremists and that there is a partnering; a coalition of 46 countries to come against these religious extremists.
Then, he went on to the subject of Israel. He acknowledged Israel’s history and the oppression they have faced and their right to exist as an independent nation. But, then he went on to tell how the Palestinians have been without a home for over 60 years (a reference, I believe, to when Israel became a nation in 1948). He stated that America would not turn our backs on the “legitimate Palestinian aspiration” for a state of their own. He stated that the two groups have been in a “stalemate” for decades. And, he said that if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be “blind to the truth.” The only solution is a two-state one.
He went on to state this about Israel: “Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel’s right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine’s. The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements. This construction violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace. It is time for these settlements to stop.”
He continued: “Too many tears have been shed. Too much blood has been shed. All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer.”
Continuing on with his speech he stated: “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance…” “This tolerance is essential for religion to thrive.” “In fact, faith should bring us together. And that’s why we’re forging service projects in America to bring together Christians, Muslims, and Jews. That’s why we welcome efforts like Saudi Arabian King Abdullah’s interfaith dialogue and Turkey’s leadership in the Alliance of Civilizations. Around the world, we can turn dialogue into interfaith service, so bridges between peoples lead to action — whether it is combating malaria in Africa, or providing relief after a natural disaster.”
Towards the end of his speech, he made these statements: “I know there are many — Muslim and non-Muslim — who question whether we can forge this new beginning. Some are eager to stoke the flames of division, and to stand in the way of progress. Some suggest that it isn’t worth the effort — that we are fated to disagree, and civilizations are doomed to clash. Many more are simply skeptical that real change can occur. There’s so much fear, so much mistrust that has built up over the years. But if we choose to be bound by the past, we will never move forward. And I want to particularly say this to young people of every faith, in every country — you, more than anyone, have the ability to reimagine the world, to remake this world. All of us share this world for but a brief moment in time. The question is whether we spend that time focused on what pushes us apart, or whether we commit ourselves to an effort — a sustained effort — to find common ground, to focus on the future we seek for our children, and to respect the dignity of all human beings.
“It’s easier to start wars than to end them. It’s easier to blame others than to look inward. It’s easier to see what is different about someone than to find the things we share. But we should choose the right path, not just the easy path. There’s one rule that lies at the heart of every religion — that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. (Applause.) This truth transcends nations and peoples — a belief that isn’t new; that isn’t black or white or brown; that isn’t Christian or Muslim or Jew. It’s a belief that pulsed in the cradle of civilization, and that still beats in the hearts of billions around the world. It’s a faith in other people, and it’s what brought me here today.
“We have the power to make the world we seek, but only if we have the courage to make a new beginning, keeping in mind what has been written.
“The Holy Koran tells us: “O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.”
“The Talmud tells us: “The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace.”
The Holy Bible tells us: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.” (Applause.)
“The people of the world can live together in peace. We know that is God’s vision. Now that must be our work here on Earth…”
Ok, so how does this relate to Isaiah 17-18 and to this dream? I believe the dream was about this speech. And, I am representing the USA who is being represented here by Barack Obama.
As I read this speech and then compared it to the dream and to the scriptures, the Lord gave me this understanding: The couple that had split and that “we” were trying to get back together is Islam and Zionism, i.e. Islam in combination with Judaism and Christianity and/or the Palestinians and Israel in a two-state solution side-by-side, and/or Muslim nations and America. And, the “we” is America, represented by our president, Barack Obama.
The pool represents the nations like the many waters represented many peoples in Revelation and like what is spoken of here in 17:12-14. The pool or the many nations are nations that are rising up against God and against God’s people. I believe this is this “new beginning” that President Obama is talking about, which involves a new world order and a new world religion, which brings all religions under one god and that punishes those who are narrow-minded and who do not tolerate all faiths.
Do you see where this is going? Soon Christians and Jews alike will be persecuted for their faith because they believe in the One true God. We will be tagged as “intolerant.” We will be classified among the “religious extremists” who think their faith is the only one. Barack Obama claims to be a Christian, but everything in this speech shows that he is truly not one, because to be a believer in Jesus Christ is to believe that Jesus is the Only Way to Heaven and to the One and Only True God the Father.
Getting into the water, I believe, symbolizes this joining of these nations together in a coalition that will form this one world order and one world religion. Yet, the Lord is saying that the timing is not right just yet for this, so he is going to rebuke the nations, including the U.S.A. From that judgment on the nations will come revival, I believe (see vv. 17:7-8). The reason for the judgment on the nations is that they have forgotten God, their Savior. They have not remembered the Rock, their fortress – Jesus is our Savior and our Rock and our Fortress and our mighty deliver!
The sunburn on my back (on the back of America) represents this judgment that is coming upon us like judgments in our past (9/11). Perhaps it is hot because it will take place in the summer and perhaps it is hot because the judgment will come in the form of fire. Even though I looked over my shoulder to see this sunburn, I proceeded into the water anyway. I believe this is ignoring the past and the many messages of impending judgment and going ahead with our plans anyway.
The looting spoken of in v. 14 of chp 17, I believe, is a reference to both taking away our freedom to believe in Jesus Christ as the Only Way, and it is also a reference to our taking away Israel’s land from them. And, God will judge us for that.
I had the impression in the dream that the woman was blind. Obama stated that if we see this Israeli-Palestinian conflict from only one side, then we are blind to the truth. Obama appears to be pulling the wool over Israel’s eyes.
Lastly, we had visited Providence Church. I believe this means the providence of God, that the crib is symbolic of Jesus and spiritual birth and that the money is the free gift of salvation. Obama, in promoting this “all for one” view of religion is thus downplaying the true meaning of what it means to be a Christian. God help us!
