But Abraham Tithed!
AA - I’m cherry picking from Gary Carpenter’s teaching: “Sacred Cow BBQ”.
I said: “Why aren’t you teaching me about kingdom finances directly?” He said, “Son, the transfer of wealth is accomplished by inheritance only. I’ve taken you as far down that path as I can till you better understand who you are, and how to appropriate from your inheritance.”
Now, to have an inheritance, don’t you have to be an heir?
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:30
…we have got to come out from under the Law!” That’s what the whole Book of Galatians is about. Now, Paul in his letter to the Galatians, he was dealing with the salvation issue more than anything else…
…after he left, here came the Judites, and they‘re coming in preaching: “No, the Law of Moses is what saves you.”
The poor little Galatians, they haven’t been born again very long, at best maybe a year or two when this was all going on...
But this whole letter is about: “The Law can’t save you!” Not by works. It is by grace. It is by faith that the promise might be sure.
Now he was dealing with the salvation issue, but I tell you it’s just the same thing. You can’t work and earn your healing either. And you’re going to find out before your done this week, neither can you give your way to prosperity. I know that flies right in the face of all the current teaching. But I’ve got a good backup. Would the Lord Jesus Christ be enough for you?
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Gal 4:31
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Gal 5:1
Subject matter, what is he talking about? The Law! Let’s read it that way. Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the Law!
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Mal 3:8-10
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Gal 3:13-14
God forbid. Some preacher stand up and tell you, “You Spirit born child of the Living God, that you’re cursed if you don’t tithe!” You’re treading underfoot the Blood of Jesus Christ yourself. Better find out what your motives are for teaching that too. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us,
…that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles…
He mentions Abraham in here, doesn’t he, in verse 14? All right, you know what’s coming next… Even if you can get them to say… Then who do they always bring up? Well Abraham tithed, and that was before the Law…
If you can get them convinced.. The Law was for spiritually dead people. They had no nature to serve God. That’s what Romans 7 is all about. Paul was a Jew, grew up under the Law, he’s representing all of the Jews. “With my mind I want to serve you. With my mind I agree that the Law is good, but when I set out to do what I want to do, I end up doing that which I don’t want to do. And when I make up my mind, I’m not going to do that evil thing anymore. That’s what I wind up doing… This is what the unsaved Jew is at the core. This is what the Law is all about. There’s something wrong deeper than my mind even. There’s something wrong at my core where I can’t serve you like I want to. And that was the whole purpose of the Law. To show the Jew and all other nations that were watching…you’re lost! The reason you can’t serve Him. You’ve got death in your nature. You’re born with that Adamic spirit. That fallen nature. You’re a sinner by nature. That’s why Jesus told Nicodemus. “You must be born again.” The old nature has to be put to death; crucified with Christ on the cross. Dead, buried forever. But you know what God does? He doesn’t leave you like that. He quickens. Brings that old dead spirit to new life in Christ.
When you were born again, you literally got a new spirit from the “second man“…the “last Adam”. At your core, you do not have that death nature anymore. You’re like Romans 8 now!
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 8:2
Well, the Law was given to people who didn’t have that glorious opportunity…
The end result regarding salvation. If you go under the Law, if you get circumcised for that reason, you’ve fallen from grace. See it’s one or the other y’all. You might as well get it through your head. It’s works, or it’s grace. It’s the Law, or it’s the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. You’re either going to earn your way to Heaven, or you’re going to freely receive what’s freely given to you by grace. Let’s go the grace route, ok?
…So what they’re really saying is this: “Ok, if we’re gonna forsake that.. What about Abraham (the end result meaning), in your mind you’re going, ’Ok we’ll Abraham would be my pattern then, and since he tithed before the Law, then I should tithe.) also. Isn’t that right? If Abraham is going to be our pattern, that’s why they brought him up, let’s go back and see what he really did, and then “Thou shalt do likewise.”. That’s what they’re saying, isn’t it?
Genesis 14: Let me bring you up to speed. I think most of you know this. Abraham’s nephew Lot and his family were living in Sodom. Probably the most wicked city on the face of the earth. Sodom was invaded by a group of kings that formed an alliance. And they just came and flat took over Sodom. And they hauled away Lot and his family; all the people; and all of the goods, and they just flat come in and plundered the city. Well Abraham found out about that. Lot’s his nephew. So Abraham, he gets 318 of his household servants. Now get that! How many servants? How rich did God make the man? He takes 318 of his household servants and they go in pursuit, and they get it all back, don’t they? So now they’re bringing this all back, and I’m sure it’s a joyous day, and husbands and wives are being reunited. And Lot’s back. Oh I’m sure there was trumpet’s blowing, and it was a great day. In fact they even had a celebration. They asked Melchizedek to come, who was the high priest at Salem. Amen? Now we’re going to watch this ceremony where that tithe occurs…
So now I’ve brought you up to verse 17:
And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the Lord, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth, That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich: Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.
Gen 14:17-24
Now these men that tell you, ‘Ok, we’ll have to concede, that the curse was on the Law. We’ve been redeemed from the curse of the Law, but yet Abram tithed before the Law, so we could be like him.” Ok, we’ll let’s do that. If they’re going to do that, if that’s what they want, then they should go all of the way. Isn’t that right? How much of this did Abram keep?
If you’re gonna let those guys lead you down those trails, what they’re going to have to really tell you, and they would never tell you this, because you’d know right off it’s wrong. They’d say, “Well, if you’re going to be like Abram, not only give your tithe, but don’t keep any of it.” Well Abram didn’t. Why didn’t he? This had nothing to do with his income.
AA - I’m cherry picking from Gary Carpenter’s teaching: “Sacred Cow BBQ”.
I said: “Why aren’t you teaching me about kingdom finances directly?” He said, “Son, the transfer of wealth is accomplished by inheritance only. I’ve taken you as far down that path as I can till you better understand who you are, and how to appropriate from your inheritance.”
Now, to have an inheritance, don’t you have to be an heir?
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:30
…we have got to come out from under the Law!” That’s what the whole Book of Galatians is about. Now, Paul in his letter to the Galatians, he was dealing with the salvation issue more than anything else…
…after he left, here came the Judites, and they‘re coming in preaching: “No, the Law of Moses is what saves you.”
The poor little Galatians, they haven’t been born again very long, at best maybe a year or two when this was all going on...
But this whole letter is about: “The Law can’t save you!” Not by works. It is by grace. It is by faith that the promise might be sure.
Now he was dealing with the salvation issue, but I tell you it’s just the same thing. You can’t work and earn your healing either. And you’re going to find out before your done this week, neither can you give your way to prosperity. I know that flies right in the face of all the current teaching. But I’ve got a good backup. Would the Lord Jesus Christ be enough for you?
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Gal 4:31
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Gal 5:1
Subject matter, what is he talking about? The Law! Let’s read it that way. Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the Law!
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Mal 3:8-10
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Gal 3:13-14
God forbid. Some preacher stand up and tell you, “You Spirit born child of the Living God, that you’re cursed if you don’t tithe!” You’re treading underfoot the Blood of Jesus Christ yourself. Better find out what your motives are for teaching that too. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us,
…that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles…
He mentions Abraham in here, doesn’t he, in verse 14? All right, you know what’s coming next… Even if you can get them to say… Then who do they always bring up? Well Abraham tithed, and that was before the Law…
If you can get them convinced.. The Law was for spiritually dead people. They had no nature to serve God. That’s what Romans 7 is all about. Paul was a Jew, grew up under the Law, he’s representing all of the Jews. “With my mind I want to serve you. With my mind I agree that the Law is good, but when I set out to do what I want to do, I end up doing that which I don’t want to do. And when I make up my mind, I’m not going to do that evil thing anymore. That’s what I wind up doing… This is what the unsaved Jew is at the core. This is what the Law is all about. There’s something wrong deeper than my mind even. There’s something wrong at my core where I can’t serve you like I want to. And that was the whole purpose of the Law. To show the Jew and all other nations that were watching…you’re lost! The reason you can’t serve Him. You’ve got death in your nature. You’re born with that Adamic spirit. That fallen nature. You’re a sinner by nature. That’s why Jesus told Nicodemus. “You must be born again.” The old nature has to be put to death; crucified with Christ on the cross. Dead, buried forever. But you know what God does? He doesn’t leave you like that. He quickens. Brings that old dead spirit to new life in Christ.
When you were born again, you literally got a new spirit from the “second man“…the “last Adam”. At your core, you do not have that death nature anymore. You’re like Romans 8 now!
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 8:2
Well, the Law was given to people who didn’t have that glorious opportunity…
The end result regarding salvation. If you go under the Law, if you get circumcised for that reason, you’ve fallen from grace. See it’s one or the other y’all. You might as well get it through your head. It’s works, or it’s grace. It’s the Law, or it’s the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. You’re either going to earn your way to Heaven, or you’re going to freely receive what’s freely given to you by grace. Let’s go the grace route, ok?
…So what they’re really saying is this: “Ok, if we’re gonna forsake that.. What about Abraham (the end result meaning), in your mind you’re going, ’Ok we’ll Abraham would be my pattern then, and since he tithed before the Law, then I should tithe.) also. Isn’t that right? If Abraham is going to be our pattern, that’s why they brought him up, let’s go back and see what he really did, and then “Thou shalt do likewise.”. That’s what they’re saying, isn’t it?
Genesis 14: Let me bring you up to speed. I think most of you know this. Abraham’s nephew Lot and his family were living in Sodom. Probably the most wicked city on the face of the earth. Sodom was invaded by a group of kings that formed an alliance. And they just came and flat took over Sodom. And they hauled away Lot and his family; all the people; and all of the goods, and they just flat come in and plundered the city. Well Abraham found out about that. Lot’s his nephew. So Abraham, he gets 318 of his household servants. Now get that! How many servants? How rich did God make the man? He takes 318 of his household servants and they go in pursuit, and they get it all back, don’t they? So now they’re bringing this all back, and I’m sure it’s a joyous day, and husbands and wives are being reunited. And Lot’s back. Oh I’m sure there was trumpet’s blowing, and it was a great day. In fact they even had a celebration. They asked Melchizedek to come, who was the high priest at Salem. Amen? Now we’re going to watch this ceremony where that tithe occurs…
So now I’ve brought you up to verse 17:
And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the Lord, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth, That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich: Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.
Gen 14:17-24
Now these men that tell you, ‘Ok, we’ll have to concede, that the curse was on the Law. We’ve been redeemed from the curse of the Law, but yet Abram tithed before the Law, so we could be like him.” Ok, we’ll let’s do that. If they’re going to do that, if that’s what they want, then they should go all of the way. Isn’t that right? How much of this did Abram keep?
If you’re gonna let those guys lead you down those trails, what they’re going to have to really tell you, and they would never tell you this, because you’d know right off it’s wrong. They’d say, “Well, if you’re going to be like Abram, not only give your tithe, but don’t keep any of it.” Well Abram didn’t. Why didn’t he? This had nothing to do with his income.