I do have problems with mistakes of translation in my bibles. Most of the mistakes are going from greek/hebrew to english with about a 2000 year language difference. Book of Mormon 200 years english to english. Do you see the difficulty difference?
Sure, but that still doesn't mean errors can't occur. Like I've said, errors occurred for various legitimate and normal reasons. Nothing "sinister" about it.
I agree modern translations lack the meat. And yes agree and agree.
Very good.
Did he forget that everyone would know when "Jesus" returned?
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No scripture is perfect? I don't agree with that statement.
I do, because scriptures come through fallible men, and are written, etc. by fallible men. There is always the possibility that someone messed something up. Obviously I'm not saying all scriptures have problem, I'm saying in the general sense. Versions of the Bible are not perfect, the BOM isn't perfect, nor anything else. The Catholic Church and also other Churches even eliminated scripture from the cannon, scripture that was considered scripture by the Apostles and Christ, just because there were problems with some of it.
Are these printer errors?
Original 1830 Text (Mosiah 9, p. 200):
King Benjamin had a gift from God, whereby he could interpret such engravings
Current, Altered Text (Mosiah 21:28):
King Mosiah had a gift from God, whereby he could interpret such engravings
Original 1830 Text (Ether 1, p. 546):
and for this cause did King Benjamin keep them
Current, Altered Text (Ether 4:1)
and for this cause did King Mosiah keep them
These particular corrections, no. Joseph corrected the first error in 1837 and the Church corrected the second error in 1849.
No "known" reason is given for these particular corrections. Either it could have been a simple "misspeak" by Joseph himself, or it could have been an error in the original, on the plates themselves. You do know it's possible the original writers could have made errors right? In fact, Mormon says as much in his introduction.
And now if there be fault, it be the mistake of men: wherefore condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment seat of Christ. (1830 Book of Mormon title page)
This article addresses the issue, and also gives a possible reason how the error originally occurred by Moroni or Mormon.
Book of Mormon/Textual changes/"Benjamin" changed to "Mosiah" - FAIRMormon
According to Book of Mormon chronology, King Benjamin was already dead when these events took place. Apparently LDS leaders changed the name to Mosiah to eliminate the mistake. Does this sound like an error on the part of a transcriber or a printer?
We don't know where the error actually occurred. Remember, there is more than those two levels in which errors could have occurred. Further, it still could have been a transcriber or printer. Some of the original scribal manuscripts is lost, this could be one of those sections. Sorry, I don't have my resources to tell you for sure.
Maybe your aren't aware, but there is a very large volume work available which shows every single change in the BOM, and the details around the change. I think there is a website out there which goes through a bunch of them also, and LDS one by the way, not an omitting the whole truth anti one.
Anyway....
There also appear to be changes to the text that attempt to accommodate later developing doctrines within the church:
taken from
Did Joseph Smith's Doctrine of God Change?
This charge is poppycock, and simply the normal bearing false witness of anti's who misrepresent everything about Mormonism, taking a little truth and using it to create great lies by omitting important facts and truth.
There have been no actual "doctrine" changes in the Church.
That is why I do not translate doctrine as I rather translate scripture, I don't usually use NIV. I like the concordant literal translation, Rotherhams, and KJV with concordance. I can get all of these from E-sword.
That's good. But, beware of literal translations. They can be helpful to know the "words", but often if you believe them literally you will be in error, because translating words alone don't necessarily give you what was actually meant.
I may be biased somewhat because I have experience with a family member who after joining the church distanced themselves to us. We were the infidel's so to speak and so my wife and kids suffered. Mother in law has since left the church and all is well again. Unfortunately after talking to other folks that experienced this too I have concluded that this church has a tendency to outcast a rip apart family's. Unlike your beliefs I believe everyone will be saved in this life or the spiritual life. So no hard feelings as we will all come to the truth in due time. God's Will be DONE.
While it is true that the Gospel does tend to rip family's apart, it's certainly not because of us, or our teachings. It's generally because those who have been left have negative feelings about the Church, etc., and thus obviously, who wants to associate with people who only diss you and your faith all the time? We have no "infidel" ideas in our Faith. In fact, we are among the only religions that are actually tolerant and accepting of other believers and faiths. We don't have "ministry's" against other faiths, etc. etc.
I mean, look at you. You are quoting our enemy's, thus you clearly study and accept many of their words of us. That doesn't lend itself to tolerance of one another. Believe me, if what you were saying was true, I would see it and know it. I've known many who have converted to the Church, and 99.9% of the time, the convert isn't the one with the problem, it's those and/or the ideologies they are leaving. It's the bigotry of the "cult minders"..... that is the problem.
Also, you clearly don't know LDS theology. LDS theology provides a way for EVERYONE to be saved, either in this life or the next. Again, stop believing our enemy's words about us. We do Temple Work saving and exalting ordinances for the living AND the dead, so all might be saved in Christ. Other than maybe Universalists, Mormonism is the only religion that provides doctrine and theology that all are alike unto God, and according to God's Grace and Justice all will be able to be saved and know Him.
Anyway, that is good you have that belief. Maybe you should attend our Church for a bit and start to see what we are really like and believe.
Take care.
