Yes, PPF benefits from the tissue sales...per the video...

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1. if a company is selling something the reason they continue to do so is to make money from those sales. there is no other reason to sell.
2. if a company has to ship something they always charge a shipping fee. If they have to pack something in order to ship it, they charge a handling fee.
if you have purchased something online recently you would see those line items on your bill.
3. the kick backs are not legal, and they are discussed on the most recent PP video (cited and linked above in this thread).
4. people do sit on several boards. but to sit on the boards of companies that have a common propriatory interest and to vote on items relating to their other company is considered a conflict of interest, and would be illegal to do so.

In otherwords, it is 'one hand washing the other'.
The reason it's not a good business to have even the appearance of such conflicts is because there are regulatory laws that prohibit such things.

For example: If the chairman of the board of a church also sits on the board of a bank, then they cannot vote or take part in any banking discussions that effect that church.
the same thing is true if a member of a school board were also a member of the local county board of suprvisors. that person could not discuss or vote on matters concerning the school at the supervisor's meeting, nor could they vote or discuss mattters concerning the county at the school board meeting.

as you can see, to have one person filling two slots, each with a common interest in the other, creates a gap in both governing bodies as well as also creating an opportunity to have prejudicial knowledge concern both organizations.

as for Teapot and Watergate, history shows what can happen when the wrong people have access to the wrong information, and use that access for the wrong purposes.
I thought that by adding those above examples which are apart from the drama of PP, that it might be easier for you to discern what the problem is.

1). PP is not a company, they are a non-profit.
2). It is not at all uncommon to roll shipping and handling charges into product cost. Most things I buy online have "free" shipping.
3). I don't know te law well enough to know if these kickbacks are legal or not.
4). It certainly seems shady.
 
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The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has said that Planned Parenthood makes enormous revenues. And that was before Obama gave them a huge bonus (with our tax money).

"PPFA takes in enormous revenues: $902.8 million in the year ending June 30, 2006 ($55.8 million more than expenses). Significant revenues are generated by charging $350-$650 per abortion. Over a third of its income, $305.3 million, was from taxpayers' dollars -- 12% more than in the previous year, and another all-time record." - Source: USCCB (added emphasis)
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Do you understand that we don't care!? Stop defending them. You are out of gas on this one. Stalled in the street, stranded. Done. No more defending for the ridiculous flimsy reasons you have. They are not lied on. They are selling the remains of the babies they have no problem killing. They do not give heath care to anyone. They are not saving mankind. They suck and we're over this defense of them.
 
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Nobody has said that they do not generate revenue. Do you understand the difference between profit and revenue?
"It is a popular misconception that nonprofits do not make a profit; they are simply not subject to income tax on their revenues in excess of expenses. Without shareholders, this excess is plowed back into operations. Planned Parenthood reported excess revenues of $63.4 million this year [2011], down from $85 million last year [2010]." - Source: USCCB website
 
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"It is a popular misconception that nonprofits do not make a profit; they are simply not subject to income tax on their revenues in excess of expenses. Without shareholders, this excess is plowed back into operations. Planned Parenthood reported excess revenues of $63.4 million this year [2011], down from $85 million last year [2010]." - Source: USCCB website


So the question begs, why in the world would anyone who knows abortion is evil and who knows PP is evil bother to defend them when the reasons given are not even valid. ??
 
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"It is a popular misconception that nonprofits do not make a profit; they are simply not subject to income tax on their revenues in excess of expenses. Without shareholders, this excess is plowed back into operations. Planned Parenthood reported excess revenues of $63.4 million this year [2011], down from $85 million last year [2010]." - Source: USCCB website

Do you understand what this means, and why excess revenues are different than profit? Do you further understand that the charges that they issued for baby parts likely wouldn't be considered profit even if PP were not a non-profit?
 
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Do you understand that we don't care!? Stop defending them. You are out of gas on this one. Stalled in the street, stranded. Done. No more defending for the ridiculous flimsy reasons you have. They are not lied on. They are selling the remains of the babies they have no problem killing. They do not give heath care to anyone. They are not saving mankind. They suck and we're over this defense of them.

You seem to care a lot, you keep going on and on. They have been lied to, and they have been lied about. They do provide some healthcare. They do sell some of the remains of the babies they've killed. They are not saving mankind. They suck. If you're over it, drop it. If not, let's keep dancing. Whichever.
 
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You seem to care a lot, you keep going on and on. They have been lied to, and they have been lied about. They do provide some healthcare. They do sell some of the remains of the babies they've killed. They are not saving mankind. They suck. If you're over it, drop it. If not, let's keep dancing. Whichever.
The claims you have made were over the top. Trumped up good they do, trumped up healthcare, trumped up non profit and trumped up lied on status. Your claims really have been proven wrong. And who cares anyway? Why do you defend them? I don't buy truth and justice. They were not lied on.
 
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The claims you have made were over the top. Trumped up good they do, trumped up healthcare, trumped up non profit and trumped up lied on status. Your claims really have been proven wrong. And who cares anyway? Why do you defend them? I don't buy truth and justice. They were not lied on.

I have not trumped up anything that they do. They do provide Paps, sometimes at no charge, to women to screen for cervical cancer. That's not nothing, in fact it is a rather important service. Yes, others also provide this service. That might make PP's service redundant, and PP's motives may be wrong, but this particular act is objectively good. Further, PP absolutely was directly lied to by the peoplewho posed as buyers of human remains. None of that does anything to excuse or reduce or justify the evils that PP has done.
 
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Nobody has said that they do not generate revenue. Do you understand the difference between profit and revenue?
yes, revenues minus expenses equal profits.

[quote from LWU above] "Planned Parenthood reported excess revenues of $63.4 million this year [2011], down from $85 million last year [2010]." - Source: USCCB website[/quote]
excess revenue is another word for profit.
 
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We know that 60 something million doesn't go to feeding the poor. Liberal politicals love to berate the right wingers for not doing enough for the poor... What does PP do? Oh, yeah, they do abortions, thus helping poor woman out of a bad situation. Rolleyes.
 
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1). PP is not a company, they are a non-profit.
2). It is not at all uncommon to roll shipping and handling charges into product cost. Most things I buy online have "free" shipping.
3). I don't know te law well enough to know if these kickbacks are legal or not.
4). It certainly seems shady.

1. as stated above non-profit only means that the profit is not taxed. not that it doesn't exist.
2. but if the handling and shipping charges are already covered in the price of the abortion, then what is PP doing charging extra for them?
3. well, do you think that these kickbacks are likely to be reported to the IRS as extra income or not?
kickbacks are a way of 'greasing the skids' in order to get something for oneself that others are not getting; preferential treatment.
4. it seems that way because it is. honest people deal openly and above the board, reporting all their income, for example.
 
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