Why would obama lift IRAN sanctions in July 2015?

[createdtoworship]

I didn't even know this happened, but just for sake of argument....say it's a good thing. What reason could you possibly come up with that this was good?


Below transcript from a summit today:


Former us representative (r-minnisota) michelle bachman


(from cspan tonight)(values voter summit)cspan-2 (link below)


https://www.c-span.org/video/?415005-101/donald-trump-addresses-values-voter-summit


Does anyone for a moment -- for a moment think that hillary clinton will revert to upholding the law if she is president of the united states? It is not going to happen. Donald trump will stand as a law and order president and not only will he build up, he is mitted to building up our economy with the greatest tax plans since ronald reagan, he has committed to building up our military, which i can tell you, it has been so devastating that there were times when i would leave our committee shaking, shaking and fear for our country. I couldn't believe the level of vulnerability. Do you realize that in our lifetime we have been privilege today live in the greatest economic power house that the world has ever known, the united states of america. We are privileged in the greatest military power house that the world has ever known, the united states of america. It didn't happen just because we were lucky people on this land, it happened because the people of this nation were not afraid to name a wholly -- holy god as certainly not the entire nation, i'm not trying to say that, but decidedly this was the nation that chose within our laws to honor god. That redownedded to our benefit, and also in 1948 when the jewish state of israel announced independence it was the united states 11 bhoipts the democrat president harry truman that said to israel and the whole world, we will have your back. That has fostered a tremendous relationship with the united states and the jewish state and i believe one of the most dangerous events of the obama administration was july of 2015 it was the obama administration to advance the iran agreement which was the greatest fear that israel had. Iran is the chief state sponsor of terrorism in the world and our president for some inexplicable reason, we had sanctions in place for about ten years, iran was virtually on its knees, i was getting the briefings about what tough shape iran was in and our president just exactly when we had iran in a situation where we actually could put crimps on nuclear program, did exactly the opposite. He rushed to enrich the iranians. Story came out that very likely the obama administration has given in excess of $33 billion in cash and gold to the chief state sponsor of terrorism in the world and that's according to the u.s. Government. What are we choosing life or death? What are we choosing?

 

[MrSpikey]

I'm choosing never to read anything in all caps again.

I'll also chip in for a dictionary for whoever transcribed that, plus provide assistance if they don't know how to operate one.

 

[Oafman]

The whole world did a deal with Iran. The Iranians agreed to stop working towards producing nuclear weapons. The world agreed to remove sanctions. So Obama removed sanctions.

 

[The Cadet]

What Oafman said. The tradeoff for removing the sanctions (which the whole rest of the world was going along with, mind you, so even if we kept our sanctions up, it would not have accomplished that much) was an immediate reduction and increase in oversight over Iran's nuclear plan. It's not entirely surprising that Trump would leave this out of his speech, given that it kind of undermines the premise of "Obama is helping Iran for no good reason", but for anyone curious on how to spot complete crap: ask one question.

"Does this sound like the kind of thing that's just too stupid to be true?"

Does Obama sound like the kind of guy who'd just give Iran a ton of money for no reason? Or would that be incredibly stupid? Yeah, sure, if you believe he's a secret Muslim it might make sense, but that's also incredibly stupid. There's usually a more reasonable explanation. People usually don't do things for no good reason.

 

[createdtoworship]

I'm choosing never to read anything in all caps again.

I'll also chip in for a dictionary for whoever transcribed that, plus provide assistance if they don't know how to operate one.

I will try to convert it, but so far that's the way the transcript proceedure from cspan works.

Again I will attempt to convert it.

 

[createdtoworship]

I'm choosing never to read anything in all caps again.

I'll also chip in for a dictionary for whoever transcribed that, plus provide assistance if they don't know how to operate one.

a place that hosts a religion of violence, and a place that refuses to edit terrorism out of their holy pages, should really listen to your opinion on what they should do? The will take the 3 billion and buy uranium refinement stuff on the black market.

 

[createdtoworship]

Does Obama sound like the kind of guy who'd just give Iran a ton of money for no reason? Or would that be incredibly stupid? Yeah, sure, if you believe he's a secret Muslim it might make sense, but that's also incredibly stupid. There's usually a more reasonable explanation. People usually don't do things for no good reason.

they guy that invented the concept of bailing out major corporations, with three waves of QE.....the guy that arbitrarily invented a free healthcare....not because he was a good guy and wants to help....but because it makes his department have more resources to control....the guy who lets anyone who wants to cross the border have a drivers liscence, a SSI number, and free healhcare... just because it became a good vote for his reelection, and not because it would damage the economomy....yeah that guy...will make no bad fiscal decisions? That's wishful thinking. He loves to help foreign countries, but his own he turns it to Cr-p. The Bible says "if any man provide not for his own....he is worse than an infidel". And obama regarding this, is worse than an infidel. Even terrorist infidels, pay for bread on the table for their kids. Yet obama wishes to give out our last bread crumb to foreign countries. And foreign countries inventing weapons of mass destruction.

 

[Armoured]

It wasn't Obama, it was the global diplomatic community. And he didn't give "our" money to Iran, when sanctions were lifted frozen money that belonged to Iran became accessible to them again.

 

[Armoured]

Edit terrorism out of their holy pages? Yeah. OK.

 

[The Cadet]

they guy that invented the concept of bailing out major corporations, with three waves of QE.....

Everything about this is wrong. First of all, the bailouts were started under Bush, and they were overall not awful. The point was to ensure that these companies don't go bust (and take everyone's savings with them), and that happened - the companies proceeded to pay back that money. It could have been done better, but it wasn't somehow just a huge giveaway, it was necessary, and it had nothing to do with quantitative easing. That's something entirely different. QE had nothing to do with a bailout, the goal was to increase inflation in order to get the economy moving faster. And that wasn't Obama either - that was the Federal Reserve under Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen.

Your post only becomes less coherent from there.

This is what I mean. When you have this level of understanding, people start to look like cartoon characters. Obama isn't in favor of Obamacare because a lot of people have no access to health care and our health care system is letting people down, and this is a real problem that we need to solve, he's in it... so that his department (wat) can have more resources to control? That doesn't even try to make sense. Do yourself a favor, and try not assuming the worst about people. What if they actually meant well in the passing of Obamacare? Regardless of whether you think it failed or not, Doesn't that make a lot more sense?

 

[createdtoworship]

It wasn't Obama, it was the global diplomatic community. And he didn't give "our" money to Iran, when sanctions were lifted frozen money that belonged to Iran became accessible to them again.

so his executive order lifting sanctions was a lie?

 

[createdtoworship]

Edit terrorism out of their holy pages? Yeah. OK.

most who go unnamed, and unidentified in the world, have revealed very terroristic messages in the koran. After all Muhammed himself murdered thousands, for religion.

the crusades were initially a revolt against early islamic terror.

 

[createdtoworship]

Everything about this is wrong. First of all, the bailouts were started under Bush, and they were overall not awful. The point was to ensure that these companies don't go bust (and take everyone's savings with them), and that happened - the companies proceeded to pay back that money. It could have been done better, but it wasn't somehow just a huge giveaway, it was necessary, and it had nothing to do with quantitative easing. That's something entirely different. QE had nothing to do with a bailout, the goal was to increase inflation in order to get the economy moving faster. And that wasn't Obama either - that was the Federal Reserve under Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen.

Your post only becomes less coherent from there.

This is what I mean. When you have this level of understanding, people start to look like cartoon characters. Obama isn't in favor of Obamacare because a lot of people have no access to health care and our health care system is letting people down, and this is a real problem that we need to solve, he's in it... so that his department (wat) can have more resources to control? That doesn't even try to make sense. Do yourself a favor, and try not assuming the worst about people. What if they actually meant well in the passing of Obamacare? Regardless of whether you think it failed or not, Doesn't that make a lot more sense?

I was talking about the housing crisis, which happened by only a coincidence, during the obama administration. The housing crisis started because of too much leniency with people who had questionable credit. Too many loans, and to the wrong people. The same exact thing is happening with auto loans right now. So the problem just moved. WE didn't learn our lesson.

 

[createdtoworship]

Edit terrorism out of their holy pages? Yeah. OK.

hey that machine in your signature, it goes about 70 mph right? I heard there were orders for many more of them. It has all kinds of attachments and goodies you can modify it with.

 

[createdtoworship]

the difference between iranian muslims, and followers of islam...muslims may or may not follow the dogma of islam.

http://www.str.org/articles/how-to-...ims-mentoring-letter-august-2016#.V9RN9PlViko

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/3761/viewall/do-all-muslims-represent-islam/

and so you have a spectrum of beliefs some muslims don't believe in a literal koran. They believe in interpreting it symbolically. But the fact that violence in in the koran is very easy to see, as well as muhammeds biographical accounts of his murders.

 

[createdtoworship]

It wasn't Obama, it was the global diplomatic community. And he didn't give "our" money to Iran, when sanctions were lifted frozen money that belonged to Iran became accessible to them again.

who created more debt?

Bush, 2 terms - $4.9 trillion
Obama, 1 term - $5.3 trillion

source:
https://www.quora.com/Who-created-more-debt-–-Bush-or-Obama

if obama wasn't declaring wars, what was he spending it on? Bailouts and obama care.

update, after two terms the total is 20 trillion:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/1/obama-presidency-to-end-with-20-trillion-national-/

So one spent 1/4 of the budget, and that was with the one declaring all the wars. Obama spent four times that. And raised dozens of taxes to cover his tracks because it shows the deficit going down.....so he spent more, then he made more money income via the strongest set of new taxes to date (most of which have not even been implemented yet....it will be twenty years later...) and we will still be paying for obama's presidency.

 

[createdtoworship]

164 verses in the koran that support jihad...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html

again so why did we lift sanctions? and gave them billions? If we had a republican in office, sanctions would still be intact.

 

[The Cadet]

again so why did we lift sanctions?

Why are you starting a thread on a topic you don't know the basics about?

 

[tulc]

Why are you starting a thread on a topic you don't know the basics about?

Because some conservatives tend to think a serious belief + a lack of knowledge about something is better then actual facts or knowledge?
tulc(is just guessing)

 

[createdtoworship]

Why are you starting a thread on a topic you don't know the basics about?

examples?