It seems you are the one that is compelled to put down and argue or you would not have mentioned it-
Wrong, as i was
responding to
one who invoked SDAs as not holding to any real "bad doctrine", and thus i informed him that was not the case. But by not caring to look at what i was responding to, or specify what you consider to be "nonsense," then it indicates superficiality on your part.
--I do not start threads. I did not bring up my faith on this thread--you brought it up with a bunch of nonsense---get on topic or start your own thread--that is all I am interested in saying so I will unwatch.
No, i did not bring it up, nor was it unrelated to the topic nor was it nonsense, for as said, SDA they do "contend for the 7th day sabbath being required obedience:"
the The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath.-
https://www.adventist.org/en/beliefs/living/the-sabbath/
Thus they must consider those who do not keep the 7th day as basically being substandard Christians.
And as said, "They also believe in soul-sleep:"
"The wages of sin is death. But God, who alone is immortal, will grant eternal life to His redeemed. Until that day death is an unconscious state for all people. -
https://www.adventist.org/en/beliefs/restoration/death-and-resurrection/"
And as said, "They also deny eternal punishment:"
"The Bible does not teach that people have a separate conscious immortal part of their being that continues to exist after death."
"The Bible also uses words such as “perishing” and “destruction” in speaking of the ultimate fate of the unrepentant (e.g.,
2 Peter 3:7, 9; John 3:16; Heb. 10:28; Mal. 4:1). These descriptions confirm that the second death refers to annihilation (or extinction) of the unrepentant, rather than a continual and eternal conscious torment."
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https://www.adventist.org/en/belief...urrection/article/go/-/waking-up-to-eternity/
However, one correction i must make is that rather than simply the wicked suffering a common annihilation after perhaps 70+ years of indulging in lusts, Adventists (if they can be say to hold to uniform beliefs) teach that "the wicked will be raised (or, more properly, "re-created") on the day of judgment. At that time, God will inflict on the wicked "conscious pain of whatever degree and duration God may justly determine." his infliction is truly penal in character, though the suffering is not endless. "But in the end...the wicked will be consumed entirely and be no more." (Edward W. Fudge, "The Plain Meaning," 18-19;.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hell4.html
I have made corrections on my original post in this regard, yet this annihilation teaching still lacks much deterrent effect, as rather than suffering unquenchable fire and eternal punishment in the lake of fire the Lord sends them to along with the devil, (Mt. 25:41,46) who "shall be tormented day and night forever and ever." (Rv. 20:10) the lost would only need fear some some indeterminate degree and duration of suffering for sins,unquenchable fire and eternal punishment in the lake of fire the Lord sends them to along with the devil, (Mt. 25:41,46) who "shall be tormented day and night forever and ever." (Rv. 20:10)
Meanwhile, this debate serves to illustrate the need for debate over substantive issues, versus peripheral ones, including those who make what could be peripheral issues into required obedience.
