Who was the greatest of all saints???

[simonthezealot]

Opinions?

 

[TigerBunny]

Opinions?

Too obliquely quote Paul Washer quoting someone else...

"You'll never know him. He's out in the world somewhere, in some little heard of country, in a broken down hut preaching the Gospel to everyone who will hear".

 

[Oblio]

The Theotokos

 

[IamAdopted]

Christ for He was the first born ... He is our example and our God.. He is the first fruits.. LOL...

 

[simonthezealot]

Too obliquely quote Paul Washer quoting someone else...

"You'll never know him. He's out in the world somewhere, in some little heard of country, in a broken down hut preaching the Gospel to everyone who will hear".

That is a good quote, I also like the one Jesus quoted...

Matthew 11:11 "I solemnly tell you that among all of woman born no greater has ever been raised up than John the Baptist;

 

[simonthezealot]

Christ for He was the first born ... He is our example and our God.. He is the first fruits.. LOL...

AMEN!

 

[IamAdopted]

AMEN!

Mat 10:38 "And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
Mat 10:39 "He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
Mat 10:40 "He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.
Mat 10:41 "He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
Mat 10:42 "And whoever in the name of a disciple gives to one of these little ones even a cup of cold water to drink, truly I say to you, he shall not lose his reward."

 

[njcl]

there is no greatest,THE CHRIST wasnt a saint.lol...he was way way way beyond that title,ST PAUL is my fav BTW

 

[simonthezealot]

The Theotokos

Using scripture, one can see that Jesus held John in even higher esteem than Mary....
Matthew 11:11 "I solemnly tell you that among all of woman born no greater has ever been raised up than John the Baptist;

Afterall Mary was older than John and yet this is Jesus speaking of John being the greatest born of woman.

 

[IamAdopted]

there is no greatest,THE CHRIST wasnt a saint.lol...he was way way way beyond that title,ST PAUL is my fav BTW

I love Paul also but Paul immitated Christ.. Did He not?

 

[tadoflamb]

Saint Martin Luther?

 

[TigerBunny]

Matthew 11:11 "I solemnly tell you that among all of woman born no greater has ever been raised up than John the Baptist!

Matthew 11:
11...Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

 

[simonthezealot]

Saint Martin Luther?

His spiritual guidance may very well have saved millions from the pits of hell by the grace of God.

 

[simonthezealot]

Matthew 11:
11...Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

right on!

 

[Oblio]

Odd version of Scripture you are using simon.
It is a deliberate misquote, or a NIVesque distortion ?

 

[simonthezealot]

Odd version of Scripture you are using simon.
It is a deliberate misquote, or a NIVesque distortion ?

actually I didn't pay particular attention to which I was using...forgive me!

NIV
Matthew 11:11

11I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.


NASB: "Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

 

[Oblio]

BTW, Christ is speaking of the Prophets here, of which St. John the Forerunner is the last.

Read the context:

Why then did you go out? To see a prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written, 'Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, who shall prepare thy way before thee.' Truly, I say to you, among those born of women [i.e the Prophets] there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

(Mat 11:9-11 RSVA)

 

[Oblio]

actually I didn't pay particular attention to which I was using...forgive me!

No problem, but whatever version it was, is terribly distorted in it's rendering of the text. Plainly read, it speaks of women born, which is not what traditional translations say.

 

[simonthezealot]

No problem, but whatever version it was, is terribly distorted in it's rendering of the text. Plainly read, it speaks of women born, which is not what traditional translations say.

Weymouth I believe!

 

[ScottBot]

Christ for He was the first born ... He is our example and our God.. He is the first fruits.. LOL...

Christ is not a saint, He is the reason we have saints.

Side from the Theotokos, I am rather partial to St. Francis of Assisi