Which brings more joy to the world?

[nChrist]

Believing God and His account of His own Creation is the beginning knowledge of all truth. Only the Creator can answer all of the biggest and most important questions. God said that His Word would endure forever - it has - it will. God's Word Stands - man's folly falls. It's just as simple as this.

Isaiah 52:6-7 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. 7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

Romans 10:14-15 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

It's just as simple as this.

Simple is as simple does.

 

[lucaspa]

Which in your opinion brings more joy to the world?
A belief in creationism or a knowledge of evolution?

It's a silly question. It does not matter which theory brings more "joy", but which is correct. Creationism was shown to be a false scientific theory by 1832, and is even worse theology.

I would note that, when creationism was the reigning scientific theory, people lived shorter, more brutish lives than they do now. As someone pointed out, the advances in medicine due to evolution alone have brought millions of people joy as they or their loved ones were cured of diseases.

 

[laconicstudent]

So I was in my Christian Foundations class today, and my professor, who is a Doctor of Theology, has been a Methodist pastor for 17 years, and is now Dean of the School of Theology, told us in class today as we were talking about interpreting Scripture and how the New Testament Canon was developed:

"Now, obviously, for example, Evolution happened...."

Oh snap.

And my Anatomy Professor, who has her PhD in Biology, we were talking about human development in class, and she picked up her Bible and started discussing some theories about how us humans would have lost such an advantageous trait such as lots of body hair (since we were discussing the Arrector Pilli muscle, which causes goosebumps and is fairly useless with human's minimal body hair) and she read out of Genesis, then said:

"But, of course this is clearly allegorical..."

I thought I'd just submit that, I have two Christian professors with doctorates, in Theology and Biology who both are quite confident in the fact of Evolution. There was no disagreement in either class, by the way.

 

[lucaspa]

Believing God and His account of His own Creation is the beginning knowledge of all truth.

Which account are we supposed to believe? There are 3 accounts in Genesis and they contradict.

BTW, why are we not supposed to believe God's own Creation?

God said that His Word would endure forever - it has - it will. God's Word Stands - man's folly falls. It's just as simple as this.

And what is the Word in scripture? Is it scripture itself? It appears that you are engaging in some human folly here. At least. It appears that you are engaging in some violation of the First Commandment.

One piece of man's folly was creationism. God in His Creation showed it to be false. Too bad some people don't listen to God.

 

[laconicstudent]

Believing God and His account of His own Creation is the beginning knowledge of all truth. Only the Creator can answer all of the biggest and most important questions. God said that His Word would endure forever - it has - it will. God's Word Stands - man's folly falls. It's just as simple as this.

I agree, too bad as a fallible human being none of us actually know God's pure Word, only our own interpretation of it.

I also agree with you that man's folly falls. Radiometric dating, geology and the fossil record has shown that the man's folly known as Creationism falls

 

[AV1611VET]

I didn't know the world could experience Joy.
I knew people could, but the planet?

Joy to the world, the Lord is come.
Let earth receive her King.
Let every heart, prepare Him room.
And Heaven and angels sing, and Heaven and angels sing,
And Heaven and Heaven and angels sing.

 

[AV1611VET]

Too bad some people don't listen to God.

Ya --- and we see how it affects them, too.

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[godsmission]

Ya --- and we see how it affects them, too.

No they don't believe it do they? why should they? it's the biggest [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] and bull story ever to be written, only a fool would even consider believing it.

 

[lucaspa]

Ya --- and we see how it affects them, too.

Look what it has done to you. It has led you into false idol worship. It's not too late to come back.

As to Romans 10:17, you seem to have skipped over Romans 10:9
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. "

THIS is the essence of Christianity. Not harping on the "word". Christianity is about a man, not about a book.

 

[BobW188]

If you are looking for joy in either evolution or creation, you are looking for joy very badly.

 

[AV1611VET]

Christianity is about a man, not about a book.

Thank you.

And part of my worshipping that Man will include believing what He said He will do --- and what He did in the past.

To name a few: created the universe, sent a flood, walked on water, healed the sick and raised the dead.

All while writing 66 books in 1.

 

[laconicstudent]

No they don't believe it do they? why should they? it's the biggest [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] and bull story ever to be written, only a fool would even consider believing it.

I think its sad that Creationism and an insistence of personal inerrancy drives people like Godsmission so far from the Church.

 

[laconicstudent]

Thank you.

And part of my worshipping that Man will include believing what He said He will do --- and what He did in the past.

To name a few: created the universe, sent a flood, walked on water, healed the sick and raised the dead.

All while writing 66 books in 1.

That is your own personal interpretation of what He said. The majority of Christianity believes God used a somewhat more subtle mechanism then Creation Ex nihilo. Based on this thing called "Physical proof".

 

[AV1611VET]

That is your own personal interpretation of what He said. The majority of Christianity believes God used a somewhat more subtle mechanism then Creation Ex nihilo. Based on this thing called "Physical proof".

Interesting word choice.

 

[laconicstudent]

Interesting word choice.

Um.... Ok? It was quite intentional.

 

[keith99]

After reading through this thread and thinking a bit (Yes I know how dangerous that is when it comes to the internet) I decided that a belief in creationism brings far more joy into the world.

The OP did not say just who would gain the joy, and it is pretty obvious that there are many here who get great joy out of bashing and tormenting creationism and creationists.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

After reading through this thread and thinking a bit (Yes I know how dangerous that is when it comes to the internet) I decided that a belief in creationism brings far more joy into the world.

The OP did not say just who would gain the joy, and it is pretty obvious that there are many here who get great joy out of bashing and tormenting creationism and creationists.

Yes, a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it?

 

[Gracchus]

I voted 'a belief in creationism.'

Please keep in mind: there is joy, then there is full-joy.

There is retard and there is full retard. Never go full retard.

Too late!

 

[Wedjat]

There is retard and there is full retard. Never go full retard.

Haha, I read that in his voice.