When Christianity mixes with Secular Theology?

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I've been wondering about this idea that sometime in the mid-20th century, the western church (both Protestant and Catholic) went through a kind of 'Hegelian' style of transformative revolution in its theology... What I mean by this is that the general mission of churches fused with secular ideals of an evolving world consciousness and a global social transformation towards an enlightened humanity. This shift essentially produced some kind of synthesized Christian-Secular Theology that has caused churches to view their own great commission of spreading the Gospel of Jesus as bound up with the global mission of spreading the ideals of liberal democracy.

This theological transformation seems to have occurred as a result of the world wars, the ensuing cold-war period, mass revolutionary movements in Latin America, and an emerging "Liberation Theology" ... I'll expand a bit on each of these below.


Post-WWII Anti-Fascism/Anti-Communism movement:
The traumatic experience of the world wars, and the perception of America as a global liberator of peoples being oppressed by the forces of Nazism and Stalinism. Both Protestant and Catholic churches attached themselves to a geopolitical narrative of Good versus Evil, effectively transforming the liberal democracy of the United States into an inherently moral secular power in the world. The Shining City on a hill.
A popular Cold-War narrative was that the West represented God and the Soviet Union represented Godlessness. (This was actually when the phrase "In God We Trust" was added to our money), however the architects of this narrative were careful to point out that the United States only represented religion in the universal sense of a "supreme being" that people of all faiths believed in. (This pluralistic god actually harkened back to the original founding of the American nation and the masonic/Deistic beliefs of the founding fathers.) This was really the universal god of an enlightened secular people that have transcended to something beyond any particular religious faith.

Liberation Theology:
Through the Church's championing of the Civil Rights movement and the socialist revolutionary movements of Latin America in the 1960's, the church began to see its collective mission more and more in the perspective of socio-political transformation. The church came to view itself as having a leading role in this social transformation and became in some way attached to what is a Permanent Cultural Revolution, and the sentiment that the world was morally improving with more and more liberalizing social planning. This eventually bled into the Feminist movements, and woman were seen as needing liberation from a male dominated society, etc... Basically the church grew to see its central mission as promoting 'social justice' through the vehicle of social revolution and the power of the democratic state.


So the church basically became part of a permanent and ongoing cultural revolution that is vaguely categorized as the global promotion of "liberal democracy"... the mission of spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ has become eclipsed by a veneration for and desire to protect what is seen as a sacred universal liberal democratic order in the world, a kind of theo-political hegemon of a therapeutic State power.

There appears to be a problematic trade-off that accompanies the Church's spiritual attachment to this secular order. By advancing the secular theology of the State as the moral power of God's unfolding will on earth through the spreading of democratic human liberty, Christians have implicitly decided to deprioritize their own Biblical theology (obvious points like the rejection of homosexuality, or the recognition of and forbidding of killing children in the womb, or the need to remove easy-access to inappropriate contentography from society)

As just one example, churches become theologically aligned with the state on the need for the U.S. and NATO to bomb this or that country in order to spread democracy, but when it comes to advancing issues that are directly addressed in the New Testament (e.g. warning against homosexuality) the church basically falls apart and cannot arrive at any conclusion, because of the internal contradiction of having Christian theology fused with that of secular liberal democracy, where the 'rights' of the individual supersede anything representing Biblical morality as an influence in society.

The theology of the secular state is made very clear every day. The consciousness of the world is evolving the more humanity is liberated from its oppressive structures. When you hear the phrase of being "on the right side of history", you get a sense of this Hegelian style of theology. World history itself is a story of the universe evolving and becoming aware of itself through humanity's evolution and transcendence. As males and females are liberated from their biology, we are moving ever closer to our ultimate gnostic freedom from reality itself.

I think another problem is how little we understand the secular world as something deeply religious. Marxism is frequently portrayed as a movement that is economic in nature, and yet is far more accurate to frame it as a religion. As with the permanent revolution of Progressivism, it is a religion of 'becoming'... of human transcendentalism as manifested through state power.

Just some thoughts... I am looking for other points of view on this issue.
 
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This doesn't seem like an accurate assessment to me, especially since there has always been theological movements that sought to accomplish many of the goals enumerated in things like liberation theology. While political aspects and affiliations are diverse, a push to make Earth a more egalitarian society has been around since the time of the apostles. There was some reactionary movements especially among Protestants that were distrustful of the state, often paired with a dispensatinalist eschatology that holds a pessimism about the lead up to Christ's return. So what you are perceiving, in many ways is a return to the historical norm rather than a modern aberation.
 
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Much of the misunderstanding and altering of parts of The Bible came from people trying to make The Bible and science agree. It started with trying to make the creation in The Bible agree with what science states about God's creation. This has lead to other areas of The Bible as also being liberally interpreted to fit social agendas. But as for the gospel it has been attacked from the moment the good news was written down and began to be preached to people. Counterfeit gospels are many and always point to what man can do in acts of obedience toward God for eternal life salvation.
 
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I'm going to throw a spanner into the works here. I'm Catholic now, but when I was Presbyterian, my wise old pastor was conservative to his bootlaces. In Australian terms, the Labor Party equates roughly to the Democrats in the US, and the Conservative Coalition (Liberals & Nationals) would be more like the Republicans.

I doubted if he voted Labor once in his life, and I have the feeling he was involved with the National Party. He said to me once that he and another pastor once wrote the social services policy for the National Party. He said it was a document that stood for years.

On the other hand in one of our discussions in his office, he remarked to me once "I sometimes wonder if Marxism was God's idea, given through a Jew." He then quoted "'From every man according to ability ... To every man according to need'. It's got an almost Biblical ring about it.".

He went on "But I think the devil got hold of it first.... You'd never get the churches to accept it now" (after the way the Soviets and communist regimes in general treated Christians).

What was meant to be, at its core, an economic system for the egalitarian sharing of resources in an industrial society (which now is a super industrialised West), became a system of gulags, purges, Josef Stalin, Beria and the NKVD (which became the KGB), torture, the Ukrainian Holodomor, violent revolution, massacres, Pol Pot and the killing fields, Mao's Cultural Revolution, the rise of the military-industrial complex on both sides of the iron curtain, atheism as the official "religion", and nuclear MAD.

Incidentally there are still plenty of nuclear weapons around the place, about 12,700 of them according to the following article.


The devil got hold of it through an extremist group, the Bolsheviks and their cousins the Memsheviks. His fruits can be seen quite clearly with hindsight.

Other developments in our post modern world are often related to left wing causes, but I'll be there are plenty of conservatives who are sympathetic to some of the social developments.

One of the same pastor's sons said to me that before the pastor died in 1992, he said to his son the left would push for legalised homosexuality, the LGBT platform and abortion on demand.

And sure enough that is just what has happened. Personally I think one almighty jugement is going to come over the world in the not too distant future.
 
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I've been wondering about this idea that sometime in the mid-20th century, the western church (both Protestant and Catholic) went through a kind of 'Hegelian' style of transformative revolution in its theology... What I mean by this is that the general mission of churches fused with secular ideals of an evolving world consciousness and a global social transformation towards an enlightened humanity. This shift essentially produced some kind of synthesized Christian-Secular Theology that has caused churches to view their own great commission of spreading the Gospel of Jesus as bound up with the global mission of spreading the ideals of liberal democracy.

This theological transformation seems to have occurred as a result of the world wars, the ensuing cold-war period, mass revolutionary movements in Latin America, and an emerging "Liberation Theology" ... I'll expand a bit on each of these below.


Post-WWII Anti-Fascism/Anti-Communism movement:
The traumatic experience of the world wars, and the perception of America as a global liberator of peoples being oppressed by the forces of Nazism and Stalinism. Both Protestant and Catholic churches attached themselves to a geopolitical narrative of Good versus Evil, effectively transforming the liberal democracy of the United States into an inherently moral secular power in the world. The Shining City on a hill.
A popular Cold-War narrative was that the West represented God and the Soviet Union represented Godlessness. (This was actually when the phrase "In God We Trust" was added to our money), however the architects of this narrative were careful to point out that the United States only represented religion in the universal sense of a "supreme being" that people of all faiths believed in. (This pluralistic god actually harkened back to the original founding of the American nation and the masonic/Deistic beliefs of the founding fathers.) This was really the universal god of an enlightened secular people that have transcended to something beyond any particular religious faith.

Liberation Theology:
Through the Church's championing of the Civil Rights movement and the socialist revolutionary movements of Latin America in the 1960's, the church began to see its collective mission more and more in the perspective of socio-political transformation. The church came to view itself as having a leading role in this social transformation and became in some way attached to what is a Permanent Cultural Revolution, and the sentiment that the world was morally improving with more and more liberalizing social planning. This eventually bled into the Feminist movements, and woman were seen as needing liberation from a male dominated society, etc... Basically the church grew to see its central mission as promoting 'social justice' through the vehicle of social revolution and the power of the democratic state.


So the church basically became part of a permanent and ongoing cultural revolution that is vaguely categorized as the global promotion of "liberal democracy"... the mission of spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ has become eclipsed by a veneration for and desire to protect what is seen as a sacred universal liberal democratic order in the world, a kind of theo-political hegemon of a therapeutic State power.

There appears to be a problematic trade-off that accompanies the Church's spiritual attachment to this secular order. By advancing the secular theology of the State as the moral power of God's unfolding will on earth through the spreading of democratic human liberty, Christians have implicitly decided to deprioritize their own Biblical theology (obvious points like the rejection of homosexuality, or the recognition of and forbidding of killing children in the womb, or the need to remove easy-access to inappropriate contentography from society)

As just one example, churches become theologically aligned with the state on the need for the U.S. and NATO to bomb this or that country in order to spread democracy, but when it comes to advancing issues that are directly addressed in the New Testament (e.g. warning against homosexuality) the church basically falls apart and cannot arrive at any conclusion, because of the internal contradiction of having Christian theology fused with that of secular liberal democracy, where the 'rights' of the individual supersede anything representing Biblical morality as an influence in society.

The theology of the secular state is made very clear every day. The consciousness of the world is evolving the more humanity is liberated from its oppressive structures. When you hear the phrase of being "on the right side of history", you get a sense of this Hegelian style of theology. World history itself is a story of the universe evolving and becoming aware of itself through humanity's evolution and transcendence. As males and females are liberated from their biology, we are moving ever closer to our ultimate gnostic freedom from reality itself.

I think another problem is how little we understand the secular world as something deeply religious. Marxism is frequently portrayed as a movement that is economic in nature, and yet is far more accurate to frame it as a religion. As with the permanent revolution of Progressivism, it is a religion of 'becoming'... of human transcendentalism as manifested through state power.

Just some thoughts... I am looking for other points of view on this issue.

I have a question:

At what point do we, as Christians, promote the use of our God given conscience outside of what scripture explicitly states? In other words, do we follow the law, solely, ignore the conscience and base the whole of our thinking on scripture alone? Or do we apply the conscience in conjunction with the scriptures?

Because I know that my Church teaches about a special inner voice that we are called to follow, where God "speaks to us in private"... We call this our inner conscience.
 
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1776 "Deep within his conscience man discovers a law which he has not laid upon himself but which he must obey. Its voice, ever calling him to love and to do what is good and to avoid evil, sounds in his heart at the right moment. . . . For man has in his heart a law inscribed by God. . . . His conscience is man's most secret core and his sanctuary. There he is alone with God whose voice echoes in his depths."47

I. THE JUDGMENT OF CONSCIENCE

1777 Moral conscience,48 present at the heart of the person, enjoins him at the appropriate moment to do good and to avoid evil. It also judges particular choices, approving those that are good and denouncing those that are evil.49 It bears witness to the authority of truth in reference to the supreme Good to which the human person is drawn, and it welcomes the commandments. When he listens to his conscience, the prudent man can hear God speaking.

 
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What I think is true, @lifepsyop, is that prudent people approve of some ideals, and consider them as "good", through the grace of God, and work toward that direction... But there are non-prudent people in society, (radicals) who wildly push good ideas to an unhealthy limit, some even weaponize good ideas.

...But the original sentiment, before the many good ideas became corrupt, were truly good in nature - something we shouldn't lose sight of.
 
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This doesn't seem like an accurate assessment to me, especially since there has always been theological movements that sought to accomplish many of the goals enumerated in things like liberation theology. While political aspects and affiliations are diverse, a push to make Earth a more egalitarian society has been around since the time of the apostles.


The Gospels do promote a kind of egalitarianism... (all mountains will be brought low, and the valleys raised up) a humbling of the proud, and a lifting up of the poor and downtrodden... ultimately reflected in the truth that we will all stand as equals in judgment before God. Biblical egalitarianism seated in a hierarchy of obedience to the God of Israel. Everyone can be saved the same way, but there is only one way by the cross of Christ.

I think what has happened in the 20th century is a totally different phenomenon... the very mind of the Christian has been completely invaded and rearranged by a kind of mass social prescriptive formula, redefining our entire moral landscape. Christians have more or less gone along with the mass cultural revolution, and have allowed themselves to be spiritually disciplined by moral secular theology...

(e.g. you as a Christian have to keep your theology private amongst yourselves, but society has the right to educate your children about the positivity of homosexuality and self-affirmation of switching genders, because this is the moral goodness of a liberated society no longer oppressed by fascist authoritarian structures of the past)

This is basically our new theological discipline as Christians in liberal democracy. This is what secular theology means by "egalitarianism", it is when any traditional and hierarchical roles (including that of biological sex) have been completely abolished. And this social transformation is being guided by a managerial type of 'priestclass'... they are the ones on TV every day instructing the Christian viewer what makes him a good person or not, and which sides of various issues places him on the "right side of history" or not.
 
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The Gospels do promote a kind of egalitarianism... (all mountains will be brought low, and the valleys raised up) a humbling of the proud, and a lifting up of the poor and downtrodden... ultimately reflected in the truth that we will all stand as equals in judgment before God. Biblical egalitarianism seated in a hierarchy of obedience to the God of Israel. Everyone can be saved the same way, but there is only one way by the cross of Christ.

I think what has happened in the 20th century is a totally different phenomenon... the very mind of the Christian has been completely invaded and rearranged by a kind of mass social prescriptive formula, redefining our entire moral landscape. Christians have more or less gone along with the mass cultural revolution, and have allowed themselves to be spiritually disciplined by moral secular theology...

(e.g. you as a Christian have to keep your theology private amongst yourselves, but society has the right to educate your children about the positivity of homosexuality and self-affirmation of switching genders, because this is the moral goodness of a liberated society no longer oppressed by fascist authoritarian structures of the past)

This is basically our new theological discipline as Christians in liberal democracy. This is what secular theology means by "egalitarianism", it is when any traditional and hierarchical roles (including that of biological sex) have been completely abolished. And this social transformation is being guided by a managerial type of 'priestclass'... they are the ones on TV every day instructing the Christian viewer what makes him a good person or not, and which sides of various issues places him on the "right side of history" or not.
Ah, I think I see a bit more of your criticism now. I still don't know if I agree it's accurate, or at least that you are identifying the right culprit/timeframe. It seems to me there's more at work than just an adoption of secular/post-modern values. There's certainly a bit of that, as people are products of their culture as much as culture is a product of the people. But there's also things like the shift in the dominant eschatology I mentioned and a kind of abstraction of what it means to have faith coming from several dominant protestant theologies. There's a definite belief among a significant number of Christians that the world is simply going to become more and more godless so their only obligation is to bring people to a confession of faith, which removes motivation for political action. Those Christians who are politically motivated, then, are more likely to find their motivation in the same things that motivate non-Christian activists which is largely sentimental empathy. Very little attention is paid in churches to the form of Christian ethics and morality, instead being portrayed as a slavish obedience to rules regardless of their apparent ethical or logical standing. So while there may be some element of what you are claiming, it is a gross oversimplification and doesn't take into account the historic currents of the faith that brought us to this point.
 
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Much of the misunderstanding and altering of parts of The Bible came from people trying to make The Bible and science agree. It started with trying to make the creation in The Bible agree with what science states about God's creation.
Science says nothing about God's creation. It only observes what happened/happens, not why it happened.
 
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Ah, I think I see a bit more of your criticism now. I still don't know if I agree it's accurate, or at least that you are identifying the right culprit/timeframe. It seems to me there's more at work than just an adoption of secular/post-modern values. There's certainly a bit of that, as people are products of their culture as much as culture is a product of the people. But there's also things like the shift in the dominant eschatology I mentioned and a kind of abstraction of what it means to have faith coming from several dominant protestant theologies. There's a definite belief among a significant number of Christians that the world is simply going to become more and more godless so their only obligation is to bring people to a confession of faith, which removes motivation for political action. Those Christians who are politically motivated, then, are more likely to find their motivation in the same things that motivate non-Christian activists which is largely sentimental empathy. Very little attention is paid in churches to the form of Christian ethics and morality, instead being portrayed as a slavish obedience to rules regardless of their apparent ethical or logical standing. So while there may be some element of what you are claiming, it is a gross oversimplification and doesn't take into account the historic currents of the faith that brought us to this point.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.

This trend can be directly attributed the rise of fundamentalist, dispensational eschatology’s opposition to the historical egalitarian norm of Biblical Christianity, which in the US directly tracks with the rise of what the OP is attempting to frame as the “secularization” of the Church.
 
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