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Romanseight2005
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The bible speaks a lot about the carnal man.(person) So what is a carnal man? What does the carnal man do? How does he think?
1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. 2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; 3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? 4 For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?
Is being carnal about eating meat?
If too many people are being called carnal, that shouldn't be, isn't that a good reason to clearly define the meaning? I mean, we can't just throw it out since it is something brought up in scripture many times. In fact, it's a core concept of Christianity. So, understanding it's meaning clearly is quite important.
Where was it ever said that the question was asked in order to point ANY fingers.....to be worried about others at all?I dont know why, but you just dont understand whats been said. I didnt say people that shouldnt be are being called carnal. I said people need something else to busy themselves with than worrying so much that others are carnal.
Please.....get the difference
for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
Finally then, brethren, we urge and exhort in the Lord Jesus that you should abound more and more, just as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God; 2 for you know what commandments we gave you through the Lord Jesus.
3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, 5 not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6 that no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter, because the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also forewarned you and testified. 7 For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. 8 Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given[a] us His Holy Spirit.
9 But concerning brotherly love you have no need that I should write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another; 10 and indeed you do so toward all the brethren who are in all Macedonia. But we urge you, brethren, that you increase more and more; 11 that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you, 12 that you may walk properly toward those who are outside, and that you may lack nothing.
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. 8 We are hard-pressed on every side (natural man), yet not crushed; we are perplexed (natural man), but not in despair; 9 persecuted (natural man), but not forsaken; struck down (natural man), but not destroyed 10 always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. 11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death is working in us, but life in you.
Its being a ferris wheel operator
On the serious side....what McScribe said. We could do with less people walking around pointing at people and saying CARNALLLLLL
If you think too many people(hence the, we could do with less...) are pointing at people and calling them carnal, then how was my response to you misunderstanding your meaning? How are you not indicating that it's wrong for all of these people to be doing this? How is that not indicating that some kind of error is being made when people do this? Or, are you saying that we shouldn't be discerning right from wrong? This thread isn't about accusing others, btw. It is about having a clear understanding of what the Scriptures mean. Should we not try to understand, and live by the Scriptures?
Somehow I am confident you have been able to file this all in such a way that for you it is not about pointing at others. In the mix of posts here lately about sex and virtue and sos then this, its clear that you and a couple of others are VERY bothered about men being carnal, and in need of this definition.
That's the whole purpose of asking others, Cons. If she were looking for a particular definition......based on HER feelings......wouldn't she just come up with it herself and claim HER definition as THE definition and leave it at that? Saying......"when I say, "carnal"...this is what I mean........".Things dont get to mean the meaning that gets you the feelings you want. They mean what they mean, independent of your feelings. Seeking this definition, so to speak, is like a form of vindication, lacking a perfect word