We Are of Body and Soul Until Death’s Door

[newton3005]

Genesis 2:7 says, “then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.” If we can digress for a moment, some may recall the days in which an obstetrician would give a newborn a slap and then the newborn cries. One might wonder where the newborn got the breath to cry. Did it breathe before it was slapped, having practiced breathing in utero, or did God put air into it when it left its mother’s womb, and with that air it started crying when it was slapped?

Anyway, we can surmise that Adam’s body was formed from what was in the ground, and Adam’s soul was what God gave him. And mothers gave form to those who were born, and with the air that first entered them came their souls. And as we live, our living is a matter of body and soul.

At some point, each of us exist no more in body on earth, and as Ecclesiastes 12:7 tells us, “the dust returns to the earth as it was.” Of our soul, Ecclesiastes 12:7 further says, “and the spirit returns to God who gave it.” There are translations of the Bible that have added, "that [the spirit] may stand in judgment before the Lord...''

So when we stand in judgement before God, it is our soul that God is judging. Sort of invites a contradiction of sorts, considering that God, who is perfect, gave us souls that apparently could be prone to the evils of the body. The Bible makes a distinction between body and soul. Romans 8:6 says, “For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.” Makes sense, considering that God who gave us our soul, is life and peace in many respects. Later on, Romans 8:13 says “For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.”

If the spirit stands in judgement before God after our bodies are laid to rest, what does that tell us about our relation to our soul? Seems we can defy it, for lack of a better word. We may not induce it to evil per se, but as it stands before God in judgement, the possibility arises that God will say ‘Soul, you failed Me in making that person live righteously. You’ll be put along with the other souls who failed Me.’

Who is Jesus talking to in Matthew 25:31-46 when he says that those who help the poor and needy will enter God’s Kingdom and those who don’t will reside in the “lake of fire?” Seems it is the bodies of the people he is talking to rather than the souls, since the souls know what their job is.

Any way you look at it, the souls may not have an easier time than the body, in dealing with earthly forces that may influence the body.

 

[Clare73]

Genesis 2:7 says, “then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.” If we can digress for a moment, some may recall the days in which an obstetrician would give a newborn a slap and then the newborn cries. One might wonder where the newborn got the breath to cry. Did it breathe before it was slapped, having practiced breathing in utero, or did God put air into it when it left its mother’s womb, and with that air it started crying when it was slapped?
Anyway, we can surmise that Adam’s body was formed from what was in the ground, and Adam’s soul was what God gave him. And mothers gave form to those who were born, and with the air that first entered them came their souls. And as we live, our living is a matter of body and soul.

Origins are not the pattern of propagation.

The origin of Adam and Eve is not the pattern for the origin of Cain and Seth.
The origin of plants and animals is not the pattern for all plants and animals.
The origin of the breath of Adam is not the origin of the breath of newborn babies.
The origin of Adam's soul is not the origin of human souls.

At some point, each of us exist no more in body on earth, and as Ecclesiastes 12:7 tells us, “the dust returns to the earth as it was.” Of our soul, Ecclesiastes 12:7 further says, “and the spirit returns to God who gave it.” There are translations of the Bible that have added, "that [the spirit] may stand in judgment before the Lord...''
So when we stand in judgement before God, it is our soul that God is judging. Sort of invites a contradiction of sorts, considering that God, who is perfect, gave us souls that apparently could be prone to the evils of the body. The Bible makes a distinction between body and soul. Romans 8:6 says, “For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.” Makes sense, considering that God who gave us our soul, is life and peace in many respects. Later on, Romans 8:13 says “For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.”
If the spirit stands in judgement before God after our bodies are laid to rest,

Does the Bible say our spirits are judged before the second coming?

what does that tell us about our relation to our soul? Seems we can defy it, for lack of a better word. We may not induce it to evil per se, but as it stands before God in judgement, the possibility arises that God will say ‘Soul, you failed Me in making that person live righteously. You’ll be put along with the other souls who failed Me.’
Who is Jesus talking to in Matthew 25:31-46

It is the resurrection of all dead mankind and final judgment where Jesus is talking in Mt 25:31-46.
The criteria is their faithfulness, proof of their true faith which saves.
Faithlessness is proof of counterfeit or no faith, which condemns.

when he says that those who help the poor and needy will enter God’s Kingdom and those who don’t will reside in the “lake of fire?” Seems it is the bodies of the people he is talking to rather than the souls, since the souls know what their job is.

Any way you look at it, the souls may not have an easier time than the body, in dealing with earthly forces that may influence the body.