USA's first elected trans official arrested on....you guessed it....

[RileyG]

I hate to be "that guy", but is this the woman who we're talking about here?
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I would never have even guessed that this is a person who's trying to identify as a woman.

That's definitely a man.

 

[RileyG]

I'm not suprrised, but I doubt most trans people are predators. They're just lonely souls.

 

[hislegacy]

Are you presuming that all transgender folks are groomers and abusers and like child inappropriate content?

What if the person arrested for child inappropriate content or abuse is a straignt Republican.
See Recent news - Republican arrested for child sexual molestation and drug possession

When did whataboutisms become a valid form of debate?

The truth is, while it is distasteful and does not cast a good light on the party of choice. It happened. And the person was who he was and evidently did what he did.

Saying, well…. The other party does it to or were are not the only ones. Serves no useful purpose. IMHO

We still have a pedophile with more likely than not multiple child victims.

What is more important? Defending a political party or putting a pedophile in jail?

 

[Sabri]

Former N.H. lawmaker charged with distributing child sex abuse images - The Boston Globe

Some court records that detail the allegations against former state Representative Stacie Marie Laughton remained sealed Friday afternoon.

www.bostonglobe.com

The country's first elected transgender politician, who formerly served as a state representative in the New Hampshire legislature has been arrested on charges of distributing child inappropriate contentography.
Stacie-Marie Laughton, a biological male who lives as a woman, was elected in 2012, but was unable to serve after her criminal past emerged in which she was sentenced to probation stemming from a 2008 felony conviction for credit card fraud.

I'm sure this is all just a coincidence. Thoughts? Sorry if the quote doesn't fit the link. I had to find a story that didn't include the words cheese pizza.

Wow! Sick
Is all i can say. Very sad.

 

[Sabri]

That's definitely a man.

Lol they try very hard

 

[FreeinChrist]

When did whataboutisms become a valid form of debate?

The truth is, while it is distasteful and does not cast a good light on the party of choice. It happened. And the person was who he was and evidently did what he did.

Saying, well…. The other party does it to or were are not the only ones. Serves no useful purpose. IMHO

We still have a pedophile with more likely than not multiple child victims.

What is more important? Defending a political party or putting a pedophile in jail?

My POINT is that just because one transgender person is a pedophile, it does not mean all transgender people are - so there was no "you guessed it" that should automatically pop up in regards to that. It is the same as if one Republican or Democrat molests children, it does not mean all do that so we should not presume they are.

All pedophiles belong in jail.

 

[keith99]

The first trans person elected to statewide office was Althea Garrison, first elected 18 years earlier.

But of course, any trans person who has been accused of wrongdoing automatically becomes the first for any accomplishment.

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[Pommer]

My POINT is that just because one transgender person is a pedophile, it does not mean all transgender people are - so there was no "you guessed it" that should automatically pop up in regards to that. It is the same as if one Republican or Democrat molests children, it does not mean all do that so we should not presume they are.

Good point.

All pedophiles belong in jail.

Bad point.
I’ll go with “all pedophiles whom act out on their paraphilia belong in jail”.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Good point.

Bad point.
I’ll go with “all pedophiles whom act out on their paraphilia belong in jail”.

I agree with that.

 

[IceJad]

Are you presuming that all transgender folks are groomers and abusers and like child inappropriate content?

What if the person arrested for child inappropriate content or abuse is a straignt Republican.
See Recent news - Republican arrested for child sexual molestation and drug possession

A groomer is a groomer that is without a doubt. It come in people of different ideologies, believes and genders. However no one would defend the individual and publicly endorse such a behavior.

That is until you find out that the pride marches approved by the states feature nudist flaunting their genitals at minors. Old man wearing nothing but his tiny whitey humping the air in front of children to the cheers of the crowds. Fetishes wearing leather bondage roleplaying for children to see. Drag shows targeting children. Schools allowing erotica books into the library under the guise of LGBT acceptance. All these and no action was taken against them.

In a way all these acts are somewhat protected. And at times promoted by the state. The threshold to call them groomers and abusers for the LGBT community are higher than the average for all other groups of people.

General people are just sick of the at this point the quadruple standards levied upon them. Any wonder when one from that community is caught red handed that people would highlight it? Let's be realistic it is catharsis at this point after being called phobic for pointing out the obvious.

And nothing he said was wrong a trans was arrested for being a "P***". It is the implications might some find objections to, not the fact itself.

 

[FreeinChrist]

A groomer is a groomer that is without a doubt. It come in people of different ideologies, believes and genders. However no one would defend the individual and publicly endorse such a behavior.

That is until you find out that the pride marches approved by the states feature nudist flaunting their genitals at minors. Old man wearing nothing but his tiny whitey humping the air in front of children to the cheers of the crowds. Fetishes wearing leather bondage roleplaying for children to see. Drag shows targeting children. Schools allowing erotica books into the library under the guise of LGBT acceptance. All these and no action was taken against them.

In a way all these acts are somewhat protected. And at times promoted by the state. The threshold to call them groomers and abusers for the LGBT community are higher than the average for all other groups of people.

General people are just sick of the at this point the quadruple standards levied upon them. Any wonder when one from that community is caught red handed that people would highlight it? Let's be realistic it is catharsis at this point after being called phobic for pointing out the obvious.

And nothing he said was wrong a trans was arrested for being a "P***". It is the implications might some find objections to, not the fact itself.

Yes, much of what you describe is upsetting. And covers straight as well as gay.

I have known a few true transgender people and they were quiet, not flashy, looked like what they thought themselves to be, did not engage in any public displays and were not pedophiles.
Most on here confuse a true transgender person with those that engage in transvestism in order to perform or get attention or make political statements . A truly transgender person does not do 'drag', a transvestite does.

 

[IceJad]

Yes, much of what you describe is upsetting. And covers straight as well as gay.

Upsetting would be an understatement. Criminal if any other group of people would to organize the same type of activity. The Catholic child abuse scandal comes to mind. Remember how fast the wrath of society came? The more the Papacy tried to downplayed it the worse it became. That is because people don't like double standards in punishing crime. Yet the same can't be said about the LGBT events now can it? Any form of objection and outrage would be categorized as politically motivated and bigoted. There is always a shield protecting them for the minimum standard. It takes only the most egregious act to be able for the law to kick in.

So you'll have to forgive if people are no longer as tolerating as they were.

I have known a few true transgender people and they were quiet, not flashy, looked like what they thought themselves to be, did not engage in any public displays and were not pedophiles.
Most on here confuse a true transgender person with those that engage in transvestism in order to perform or get attention or make political statements . A truly transgender person does not do 'drag', a transvestite does.

It use to be the good are the masses and the bad are the anecdotes. Now how can people be convinced? The bad are now given all the air time and gloried by media and administration. Gone were the days when they call for acceptance. Now all I read is how others are being forced to participate and support the LGBT agenda by government mandate. From schools to workplace. And even the house of God is not immune. I don't define this as acceptance anymore.

You can define the types of LGBT people as accurate as can be all day long. To many even if they know the difference, are too soured by the whole to care about semantics. Sad reality but a reality for many none the less. Many including myself had grown tired supporting the community.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

As much as I'd prefer this was the situation at hand....page 19 includes the footnote that for both categories of offenders, roughly 1/3 victims were 12yo or younger.

Again, this means that the disproportionate number of offenders makes 1 category several times more likely to offend.

Actually, it was saying that rate of offenders (against people under 12) was the same between the two groups.

Ex:
1/1000 people in group A
10/10000 people in group B
...both equate to the same level of pervasiveness and "risk"
(just example numbers obviously)

So both groups have equal propensity for victims 12 and under. However, one group is disproportionately represented in the case of older victims.

I was suggesting that for the ones that aren't, one group is overrepresented due to extraneous factors that can be at least partially attributed to bias.

Meaning, for the cases where a 19 year old is with a 16 year old, both the parents, and the courts, in some areas are likely to view the gay version of that more harshly than the hetero version. And when you have one group in particular that's impacted by archaic sodomy laws (that basically automatically turns one charge into two)

When it comes to the instances of statutory rape, a lot of what determines if the person gets in trouble or not is whether or not the parents decide to report it. In many parts of the country, parents may be far less likely to even report it if they find out their 17 year old son has been fooling around with a 21 year old woman, but if they were to find out it was another guy, they may be more likely to report it to the authorities (for reasons of both bias, as well as the fact that if they can make their son look like he was a "victim of some forcible sex crime", they can "save face" within their social circles because having a son who was a victim would be more socially acceptable than "my son's gay")

 

[XianGoth1334]

Thanks to (relatively) recent developments, there is not a shared, objective definition to what it means to be "trans". Rather, it is an umbrella term that anyone can simply apply to themselves any day or any time they choose. This is, by the way, a sharp departure from the past and conflicts with the medical model.

By allowing an anything goes, self-defining cultural climate, there has been a seismic shift in terms of who is going to say they are trans.
If, as it had been the case, identifying as trans meant you had had the full medical 'transition' procedure, then only those who had gone through such extensive reassignment would identify as "trans".
If, also how it had been, identifying as trans meant you would be subjected to extensive medical and psychological evaluation, criterion, it would again refer to a certain, rare, subgroup of of people who are "trans".

However, the doctrine of today says 'those who say they are trans shall be respected as trans and shall not be questioned and shall wear whatever they want and use whatever restroom they want and use whatever pronoun they want even if that means identifying as a cat and peeing in a litter box and no one can say anything about any of it'.

To be sure, there are many who are medically trans who just go along with their lives and try to live it the best they can. There are many people who are genuinely confused, maybe on behalf of being abused. There are people with genuine mental health issues who need to be in counseling, on medication, etc. All of this may make some people uncomfortable, but there really is not much risk of these people hurting others.

The dark side of the anything goes / anyone defines mentality is that now you have given all of the sickos a perfect cover. I take it that there are simply sick, predatorial people (almost always males) who will taken advantage of any opportunity to prey on women and / or children. In the past they would NOT have gone along with the 'trans' label because they do not want sterilization, estrogen and probably do not even enjoy crossdressing. However, society has made trans culture so fluid that these people feel emboldened to engage more openly in their perversions (and, if caught, request placement in a women's prison).