Exactly what he said.
All of this hullabuloo and people feeling so passionately about an issue that in truth has no bearing on their lives whatsoever has always been astounding to me. What the heck do you care if a couple of gays go down to the courthouse, see a judge, go through a ceremony, and then call themselves "married"? I mean - I could understand if they were trying to force unwilling churches to do it...but I have *yet* to see that happen in *any* of the places where it has been adopted up until now.
I read an article
recently about how Canadian preachers can face legal persecution for 'hate speech' if they preach on what the Bible has to say about homosexual behavior. It's already a problem in Canada, and they are just a few years 'ahead' of us in the downward legal plunge on this issue.
Consider yourself. Just judging by your own posts, I'd say from my perspective that you are a a little liberal kind of guy, maybe a bit libertarian. I don't know how you label yourself. But if I recall correctly, you seemed to be mildly against 'gay marriage' a year or so ago when the topic came up, though apathetically so. But you've already jumped on the gay marriage bandwagon.
Realistically, I don't expect homosexuals to really commit for life for the most part. You'd think if they are going to promote homosexuality or have it legalized, that they wouldn't want the restrictions of marriage. But this sort of social agenda fits their cause and gets them sympathy. And many probably do believe in 'gay marriage', but I've read it doesn't work out for them as much as it does for opposite-sex couples, which isn't a high bar in our society these days.
I don't accept the premise to your argument, that these things have no bearing on our lives. The society we live in effects all of us. Here recently, there was a program in the schools put forth by that immorality-promoting organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center that taught a lot of bad biology, and was designed to teach 11 year olds that the anus is genitalia, and said things to these kids like "if you decide to engage in anal, vaginal, or oral sex....". Their examples of unhealthy couples were male-female and the homosexual couple examples were all presented in a positive light. It treated anal sex as normal and there was nothing in the curriculum about the health dangers of this sort of activity, and no warning against sexual predators. School curricula like this does the pedophiles a favor. They don't have to groom the kids by themselves. The school systems help them.
And we know that if we send our kids to public school, there is a big change the school system is going to teach them that sexual immorality is okay. That's already a problem. My son had a health class, and fortunately, what he learned about sex was filtered through a teacher who apparently has some good sexual morality. And of course, I taught him as well. I would like for a child his age not to have the evil influences. And you can see how there is an actual agenda to teach these things in school. Instead of teaching biology, the LGBT activists teach the kids their immoral version of morality and want to use the schools to do it. They want to teach a twisted version of morality, making it immoral to oppose immorality and to have Biblical sexual standards, instead of just teaching how the body works biologically.
And I don't accept the premise that court decision don't effect us because God judges nations for wickedness, and that is one reason why churches are opposed to this. Here are two main reasons:
1. God judges a nations. Many Christians don't want to see the US fall under further judgment.
2. Lowering the bar on righteousness causes further decline.
Even the SCOTUS judges said during the discussion that forcing religious people to marry homosexuals was going to be an issue. It's not unrealistic to expect persecution over this issue against the saints. It has already happened with Christian business owners. But we can also expect further sexual degridation. When you get the man+woman part of marriage, which God ordained, messed up, legalizing pedophilia and other sexual perversion isn't that huge of a leap. The countries that legalized so-called 'gay marriage' long ago have drastically lowered the age of consent for the most part.
People who 20 years ago would have been opposed to homosexual behavior who are in favor of 'gay marriage' now, who now strongly oppose pedophilia... just watch them, even posters on this forum, as far other sexual morality is concerned. Rebellion against God is not good for anyone.
I am more concerned with the immorality in churches, though. I think that may be at the root at the decline in society, or at least a big part of it.