Today is a sad day

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The first gay marriages in California commenced today.

The simple fact that so few can explain why "homosexual marriage" is an oxymoron / contradiction in terms is telling of the fact that the Church has NOT been doing its job... and that marriage itself has NOT been held in high esteem in the Church (as is obvious by its divorce rates and infidelity rates both on par with and in some cases surpassing those of the unchurched)... giving the Church NO moral high ground to put down the endless assaults from those who would redefine if not exterminate the sanctity of marriage.

Today is a sad day.

But not one unexpected to the serious Bible student who has not buried their head in the sand or who thought popular vote / majority vote would solve the problem. It does not solve the problem. It cannot. Because what we have neglected to understand or face is the fact that ALL perversion is on the same path... some perverts are just further down that same path. GOD sets the standards and defines the boundaries. And when we for any reason cross those boundaries we pervert those standards and we ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters in the Church become perverts as well.

Our perversion may not go as far down the path of perversion, but it is the perversion of God's law nevertheless. And when we who have the Bible and who have the Holy Spirit living in us point the finger at those who do not... decrying their perversion because it is further down the path of perversion, we are ignoring the beam in our eye to expose the speck in their eye.

Its a matter of accountability to the amount of revelation we have rather than degree of perversion. In other words , we who have the truth are guiltier of the greater sin than those who do not have the truth and who have no reason to show restraint when it comes to their lusts. We have the truth. But we have joined the world in the pursuit of our desires and have allowed our homes and our families to be broken to satisfy self, to gratify our lust... placing a revolving door on marriage... replacing "till death do us part" with "till something better comes along..." Adultery is at an all time high... in the Church, never mind society.

And we lack the moral high ground to begin to explain or legislate why homosexuals cannot be officially married.
 
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Gay marriage is coming. The Democrats will control the congress in large numbers and Obama will probably win. There will be no stopping it.

However, if they allow it, they will have to deal with all possible marriages, polygamy, multiple partners, ect. If you open marriage up between consenting adults, all forms of marriage will have to be legal.

My guess is millions of straight Amerians will marry same sex as a front to get healthcare and benefits.
 
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I see you've watched the movie Chuck and Larry too. Very good. I doubt that suddenly millions of people will start claiming to be gay to get tax breaks. Same-sex marriage is legal in Canada, and I haven't seen stampedes of supposedly gay people filling churches to get benefits.

Also, polygamy/inappropriate behavior with animals/whatever other wierd types of arrangements you can think of can be argued against, separately from same-sex-marriage. However, it takes some thinking rather than reading straight from the Bible. It's not as difficult as it sounds.
 
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I see you've watched the movie Chuck and Larry too. Very good. I doubt that suddenly millions of people will start claiming to be gay to get tax breaks. Same-sex marriage is legal in Canada, and I haven't seen stampedes of supposedly gay people filling churches to get benefits.

Also, polygamy/inappropriate behavior with animals/whatever other wierd types of arrangements you can think of can be argued against, separately from same-sex-marriage. However, it takes some thinking rather than reading straight from the Bible. It's not as difficult as it sounds.

Maybe not millions, but many will marry for the benefits of healthcare and benefits. With our economy going down the toilet, people will use everything they can to survive. It's simple or could be, but you should know better to think our government can make anything simple.


You'll be surprised at the Christians in the future that will be playing Chuck and Larry. Just look at what welfare did to the black family. That could easily happen in reverse. When people can use a law to get something, they will do it.
 
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Maybe not millions, but many will marry for the benefits of healthcare and benefits. With our economy going down the toilet, people will use everything they can to survive. It's simple or could be, but you should know better to think our government can make anything simple.

So why would two men pretend to get married to one another when they could just as easily have a heterosexual marriage of convenience?


You'll be surprised at the Christians in the future that will be playing Chuck and Larry.

I'd be surprised at the people, in general, regardless of religious affiliation who would opt for a same-sex marriage over a heterosexual one just to obtain benefits.

Just look at what welfare did to the black family.

...and the Hispanic family, and the Korean family and the Caucasian family. Surely you know that it's not just African-Americans on welfare, right? And welfare has helped out a tremendous number of people. Unfortunately you only hear about those who end up abusing the system.
 
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The first gay marriages in California commenced today.

The simple fact that so few can explain why "homosexual marriage" is an oxymoron / contradiction in terms is telling of the fact that the Church has NOT been doing its job... and that marriage itself has NOT been held in high esteem in the Church (as is obvious by its divorce rates and infidelity rates both on par with and in some cases surpassing those of the unchurched)... giving the Church NO moral high ground to put down the endless assaults from those who would redefine if not exterminate the sanctity of marriage.

Today is a sad day.

But not one unexpected to the serious Bible student who has not buried their head in the sand or who thought popular vote / majority vote would solve the problem. It does not solve the problem. It cannot. Because what we have neglected to understand or face is the fact that ALL perversion is on the same path... some perverts are just further down that same path. GOD sets the standards and defines the boundaries. And when we for any reason cross those boundaries we pervert those standards and we ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters in the Church become perverts as well.

Our perversion may not go as far down the path of perversion, but it is the perversion of God's law nevertheless. And when we who have the Bible and who have the Holy Spirit living in us point the finger at those who do not... decrying their perversion because it is further down the path of perversion, we are ignoring the beam in our eye to expose the speck in their eye.

Its a matter of accountability to the amount of revelation we have rather than degree of perversion. In other words , we who have the truth are guiltier of the greater sin than those who do not have the truth and who have no reason to show restraint when it comes to their lusts. We have the truth. But we have joined the world in the pursuit of our desires and have allowed our homes and our families to be broken to satisfy self, to gratify our lust... placing a revolving door on marriage... replacing "till death do us part" with "till something better comes along..." Adultery is at an all time high... in the Church, never mind society.

And we lack the moral high ground to begin to explain or legislate why homosexuals cannot be officially married.
Sounds a lot like how people complained that it was a sad day when black students started attending classes at Little Rock High School
 
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Gay marriage is coming. The Democrats will control the congress in large numbers and Obama will probably win. There will be no stopping it.

However, if they allow it, they will have to deal with all possible marriages, polygamy, multiple partners, ect. If you open marriage up between consenting adults, all forms of marriage will have to be legal.

My guess is millions of straight Amerians will marry same sex as a front to get healthcare and benefits.
Oh No!...soon colored folk will start wanting to get married to good upstanding white people!...oh Lordy say it ain’t so!
 
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Gay marriage is coming. The Democrats will control the congress in large numbers and Obama will probably win. There will be no stopping it.

However, if they allow it, they will have to deal with all possible marriages, polygamy, multiple partners, ect. If you open marriage up between consenting adults, all forms of marriage will have to be legal.

My guess is millions of straight Amerians will marry same sex as a front to get healthcare and benefits.

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Oh No!...soon colored folk will start wanting to get married to good upstanding white people!...oh Lordy say it ain’t so!

The more folks like this post in this way the more telling it is we are in Sodom and Gomorrah. As with the swiftness of time, how stunning it is to realize what all has transpired and how quickly.
 
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Yes, Californians of the same sex who love each other can finally be joined in matrimony. They can enjoy the same legal rights that their hetrosexual counterparts have enjoyed for generations. How very sad...
 
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Yes, Californians of the same sex who love each other can finally be joined in matrimony. They can enjoy the same legal rights that their hetrosexual counterparts have enjoyed for generations. How very sad...
And nauseating...
It isnt marriage as God created marriage...its abomination.
 
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The priests 2,000 years ago who made up these rules are crying salty tears right now.

And divorce lawyers in California are grinning ear to ear. They just got a whole bunch of potential new clients.
 
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