The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

[Straightshot]

My comment

Albert Pike was a false prophet who was most likely reading Nostradamus

And there is no Illuminati factor in the Bible prophecies

The 3rd kingdom of Daniel 7 was the northern Seleucid divide [the largest] of Alexander's Asian holdings .... principally Syria/Iraq today

The 4th kingdom will be the continuation of the same, but at the time of the end which is still pending [Rome and subsequent kingdoms on the earth are not in any prophet's vision]

Satan is the "god" of this present world and influences all of the nations on the earth, but the focus of the prophets is particularly upon Satan's meddling with the 7 human kingdom's of the Middle East, past and future

The Middle East is where human regeneration began after the flood, and where the primary events related to Israel and the surrounding populations of the Middle East will take place at the time of the end

These indigenous populations are of the same post flood peoples, but mixed and divided today .... and they are all primarily Muslims [Daniel 2:40-43]

The 2000 year breaching in time lapse is apparent in all of the prophets' visions .... like this specific one [Daniel 11:35 ................ 11:36-45; 12:1-7]

Antiochus IV was the last of the Seleucid kings of the north [Daniel 11:21-35]

The current setting in the Middle East is the leading up to the beginning of the time of the end still pending .... this future period is the same as the 70th week decreed for Daniel's people of Israel

This period of 1260 days + 1260 days and another 30 days added is the same as the coming tribulation .... the Lord's hour of trial and unprecedented judgment upon the unbelieving world .... the time of Jacob's trouble as well for pressuring a remnant part of the nation to turn to their Messiah and King, Jesus Christ .... 1/3 will turn and will be saved to enter the Lord's millennial kingdom upon the earth as mortals, and these will populate this coming kingdom

The Lord will intervene against the little horn and last king of the north and destroy him and his Muslim followers during the battle of Armageddon in the 30 days following the 2520 days of the 70th week

When the little horn invades Israel at the middle of the 70th week Israel will be scattered again and many will be killed, but 1/3 will remain .... he will rule over the land of Israel for the second 1260 days [42 months] [Revelation 11:2; 12:6; 12:7; 13:1-5]; he will then come to his own ending at Armageddon

The prophets do not see the interim period between the ending of the 69th week at the Lord's cutting off .................. and the beginning of the 70th .... they are all silent

So events upon the earth over the last 2000 years are not recorded in their visions .... not one

Much speculation and adding to the visions has been done by those who do not understand the silent period of the prophets

We are currently on this side of the coming 70th week decreed for Israel which is still pending as we speak .... so when it does begin, all of the unfulfilled visions of the same will roll .... and exactly as the visions tell 100%

The little horn and his Muslim kingdom of the Middle East will rule all of the region, but not the whole world .... the prophets are focused upon Israel and the surrounding Muslim populations

But the entire world will be drawn into the same foray ..... and the little horn and his followers will cause much destruction across the earth .... not just in the Middle East

Other nations that oppose his rule will feel his wrath [Daniel 11:44; Revelation 8:6-12; 14:8; 18:1-2]

I will add more about this related to [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18] this beast of the abyss of Satan's contrivance has ruled the Middle East in the passed and will rule again at the time of the end

...... the beast once was, then not [over the last 2000 years], but will come to rule again during the time of the end of this present age

Abddon/ Apollyon, the destroyer, is the angel king of the abyss and this one is Satan's pick for ruling over the 7 human kingdoms of the Middle East .... like Satan, this rebelling angel has been in existence for eons and will not die until the Lord destroys him at Armageddon which will take place in the Middle East

Revelation 17 gives Abaddon's career in relationship the 7 human kingdoms of which 5 have already fallen [Magog's land, Assyria, neo-Babylon, Persia, and Seleucid]

He is currently in the abyss where he cannot interact with humanity, but soon to be released by Satan [Revelation 9:1] .... and when released he will enter and fully possess the human little horn, a king of the northern Middle East [the combination of a fallen angel and a human [2 Thessalonians 2:8-12; Revelation 13:1-4]

The little horn's first kingdom [the 6th] will be smaller at first [hence "little" horn [king]], and he will expand it into the 7th divided with 10 other appointed kings .... he will eliminate and replace 3

He will confederate the Muslim Middle East by the middle of the 70th week .... conquering and making alliances [Daniel 11:36] .... then Abaddon will enter and fully possess him possess and become the 8th king himself

This infusion will produce a being not ever experienced by humanity possessing the powers of Satan Himself and no human invention of warfare will stop him, or be able to kill him

Only the Lord can destroy this one ..... and He will at Armageddon

 

[BABerean2]

Has anyone noticed that one of those running for pres. is a promoter of the thread?
We are here debating the eschatology that is happening at the present time.
Go to the last minute of the video to see her words of wisdom to the World Federalists Assoc.
This organization is not about basket-weaving.

 

[Riberra]

World War Three in progress?
From an American perspective and with a vivid imagination, maybe.
So what do you think will be the outcome of this 'war'?

This is the Satanic/Luceferian plan in action that we see unfolding...The next step will be Israel attacking Iran's civilian nuclear energy installations and other targets in Iran to stop Iran's attempt to create a nuclear bomb.This will be the sparking plug leading to the final phase of WW3.
That situation will create a false Armageddon's type scenario.

Remember this thread is about the Sixth seal - hint, hint.

For me, I prefer to believe the Prophetic Word.

That is the Sixth seal events who will really lead the way for the prophesied 10 Kingdoms ... the AC and the return of Jesus at Armageddon .

 

[Riberra]

My comment

Albert Pike was a false prophet who was most likely reading Nostradamus

Albert Pike was a Satanist not a "prophet" :
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm
Excerpts:
"Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication. He was the Grand Master of a Luciferian group known as the Order of the Palladium (or Sovereign Council of Wisdom), which had been founded in Paris in 1737. Palladism had been brought to Greece from Egypt by Pythagoras in the fifth century, and it was this cult of Satan that was introduced to the inner circle of the Masonic lodges. It was aligned with the Palladium of the Templars. In 1801, Issac Long, a Jew, brought a statue of Baphomet (Satan) to Charleston, South Carolina, where he helped to establish the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. Long apparently chose Charleston because it was geographically located on the 33rd parallel of latitude (incidentally, so is Baghdad), and this council is considered to be the Mother Supreme Council of all Masonic Lodges of the World.

Pike was Long's successor, and he changed the name of the Order to the New and Reformed Palladian Rite (or Reformed Palladium). The Order contained two degrees:

• Adelph (or Brother), and
  
  
• Companion of Ulysses (or Companion of Penelope).

Pike's right-hand man was Phileas Walder, from Switzerland, who was a former Lutheran minister, a Masonic leader, occultist, and spiritualist. Pike also worked closely with Giusseppe Mazzini of Italy (1805-1872) who was a 33rd degree Mason, who became head of the Illuminati in 1834, and who founded the Mafia in 1860. Together with Mazzini, Lord Henry Palmerston of England (1784-1865, 33rd degree Mason), and Otto von Bismarck from Germany (1815-1898, 33rd degree Mason), Albert Pike intended to use the Palladian Rite to create a Satanic umbrella group that would tie all Masonic groups together."

Source for more details:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm

And there is no Illuminati factor in the Bible prophecies

The Satanic/Luciferian factor is mentioned in the Bible and was present in human affairs since the beginning of humanity.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[keras]

Albert Pike was a Satanist! Why does he even get a mention here! Get thee behind us!

BaB, I listened to your vid. I liked how Walter C. identified himself as Satan's right hand man! And Hillary's fanciful notion of a OWG bringing in a more peaceful and just world.
But the issue of nations giving up their sovereignty, is their main problem. This will be solved by the Sixth Seal, worldwide disaster. The only logical way for the world to recover, will be to form a OWG. Prophecy supports this outcome for the secular world, but not for the Lord's righteous people, who will be gathered and go to live in all of the Holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Revelation 7:9

This is the Satanic/Luceferian plan in action that we see unfolding...The next step will be Israel attacking Iran's civilian nuclear energy installations and other targets in Iran to stop Iran's attempt to create a nuclear bomb. This will be the sparking plug leading to the final phase of WW3.

This scenario isn't a practical possibility. Israel knows they cannot stop Iran's nuke program now. Iran has had plenty of time to hide and conceal all their sensitive stuff and no amount of agreements will stop them having the weapons they want to destroy Israel.
The Shi-ite Islamic belief in the 12 Imam, propels them to make this attack, their proxies are itching to use the huge arsenal Iran has provided and on the Appointed Day, they will make their move. This will trigger the Lord's action, namely the Sixth Seal hit at mid day, as Zephaniah 2:4-5 tells us. The initial EMP strike will cause armed nukes to explode on the launch pad, fulfilling the prophesies of how the Lord's enemies weapons will recoil upon their own heads. Psalms 7:12-15, Obadiah 1:15, Joel 3:4, Habakkuk 3:14 Also how the Lord will break the chief weapon of Elam. Jeremiah 49:35-36

 

[Straightshot]

My comments

The stars that fall to the earth at the beginning of the tribulation in Revelation 6:13; 8:11; 9:1; 12:4; 12:7-9 are fallen angels, not celestial stars [just one celestial star would obliterate the earth]

On the other hand the stars in Matthew 24:29 at the ending of the tribulation are celestial stars that will appear falling during the shaking of the heavens .... but these will not fall to the earth

So there are two different times projected and not the same

In addition there are other differences that can be found by making comparison of Revelation 6:12-17 with Matthew 24:29 .... see if you can find them

The post-tribulation thinker is in error by assuming that the two related passages are the same and both at at the end of the tribulation .... not true for many other reasons as well

Satan [Lucifer] will obviously involved with the coming tribulation [Revelation 12:12], but there is no connection with the man made "Luciferian" concoction of the tabloid conspiracy buffs .... all of this is speculative and extra-biblical nonsense not included in the visions of the Bible prophets

And there is no indication of Israel attacking Iran [Persia] [Ezekiel 38:5] in the prophetic visions, but just the opposite .... Iran will be aligned with Satan's beast in the human little horn of Daniel's visions in the attack upon Israel

 

[BABerean2]

This is the Satanic/Luceferian plan in action that we see unfolding...

Most people cannot believe there is a conspiracy in effect today.

One of Satan's greatest weapons is the fact that people do not want to see the evil right in front of them.
Many, when faced with the truth will say... "Oh, I can't believe they would do that!"
Many of the Germans said the same thing during WWII.

There is one conspiracy, that started in the Garden, when the serpent lied to Eve. It continues to this day.

 

[Straightshot]

Many, when faced with the truth will say... "Oh, I can't believe they would do that!"
Many of the Germans said the same thing during WWII.


Who is "they"

Has Satan designed a ploy to usurp the Lord's position .... yes he has [Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:13-16; 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12; Revelation 9:1; 9:11; 11:7; 12:12; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]

So who is "they"?

If you mean the Bilderberg NWO conspiracy idea .... it is total ruse with no biblical connection

http://bilderberg.weebly.com/debunking.html

 

[Douggg]

The old notion of the EU being the 10 kingdoms, went down the plug hole of history when more than 10 joined. Even then, it was a wrong premise, as the NWO will be a worldwide government. The 10 regions are already decided.
The eventual dictator of the NWO will make a peace treaty with new Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] proving they are not members of the NWO.
Correct, at the middle of the seven year treaty, the leader of the OWG will attack and conquer Beulah, Zechariah 14:1-2. But this triggers the terrible punishments of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, culminating in the Return of Jesus, where He kills the Anti-Christ's army and chains him up. Revelation 20:1-3

One of the things that has become ingrained because it has been stated over and over is that the confirming of the covenant for 7 years is a 7 years treaty. The actual background for that intepretation is the little horn in Daniel 8 destroys many by peace. So that information is extended to the thinking that the confirming of the covenant for 7 years is a treaty, peace treaty of sorts.

The problem is, although the destroying many by peace is direct language and is definitely a fact, the confirming of the covenant for 7 years is not a fit.

The confirming of "the" covenant is the covenant talked about in the earlier verses of Daniel 9, and which the Jews would relate to - the Mt. Sinai. The confirming of the covenant for 7 years - on the schmita, is in the bible, Deuteronomy 31:9-13 and is something the Jews themselves anticipate once they get control of the temple mount.

As far as your point on there being more than ten EU countries, I think the number is around 28, and that eliminates the ten kings possibility as it pertains to the EU - in your opinion. However, you are assuming one king per country.

Yet in your own theory of ten regions of the world, there are many many more countries than in the EU.

The EU will be governed by ten leaders, called kings. They don't have to be kings of the individual nations of the EU. But
regions of the EU, just like your scenario of ten zones of many countries.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[keras]

The problem is, although the destroying many by peace is direct language and is definitely a fact, the confirming of the covenant for 7 years is not a fit.

Daniel 9:27 is about the 70th 'week', that is: the last seven years of the decreed time period for the holy people. Daniel 7:25 confirms who this refers to.
Although the Hebrew word b'rith, in Daniel 9:27, can be translated as covenant, it just means agreement between two or more parties. In this case my REBible renders it - a firm league. For the first half of the seven years, nothing happens, only after 3.5 years does the leader of the World government come to new Israel, Zechariah 14:1-2, and put a stop to the Temple sacrifices. We see in Ezekiel 46, how the sacrifices are reinstituted for expiation and purification.

You don't seem to see how the Lord's righteous people will by then, be living in all of the Holy Land. After the Sixth Seal devastation and depopulation of all the Middle east, Ezekiel 30:1-5, they will be transported there, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Ezekiel 36:8 They will build the new Temple, Zechariah 6:15. They will send out 144,000 missionaries to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus.
They will not be members of the OWG, that is why the leader, [dictator] of the OWG makes a peace treaty with them.

RE the 10 world regions: This is already decided, there will be no individual nations left, excepting new Israel, Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5 The OWG will be initially ruled by ten Presidents. Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12

 

[vinsight4u]

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[BABerean2]

Many, when faced with the truth will say... "Oh, I can't believe they would do that!"
Many of the Germans said the same thing during WWII.


Who is "they"

Has Satan designed a ploy to usurp the Lord's position .... yes he has [Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:13-16; 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12; Revelation 9:1; 9:11; 11:7; 12:12; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]

So who is "they"?

If you mean the Bilderberg NWO conspiracy idea .... it is total ruse with no biblical connection

http://bilderberg.weebly.com/debunking.html

"They" are those who insist "they" have the truth, even though their 2 Peoples/ 2 Purposes/ 2 Kingdoms/ 2 ways of Salvation (Grace and later Law Keeping)/ Scripture "Rightly Divided" into 2 Parts/ 2 Second Comings of Christ doctrine, is not found in God's Word.

Then "they" condemn anyone with a different viewpoint and claim those of the other view are working for Satan.

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[Straightshot]

You said:

"Oh, I can't believe "they "would do that!" .... meaning that those you accuse are referring to the conspirators that you claim are involved in the conspiracy theory

I want to know who "they" is

Who are the conspirators that you claim are in your conspiracy theory ruse?

 

[keras]

BaB, THEY are referred to in 1 Thessalonians 5:3 and there they face destruction. Romans 9:22
To infer that 'they' are Christians, albeit ones who may have a wrong interpretation of Bible prophecy, is rude and un-Christian of you. All who believe in the Lord will be saved, finally their eyes will be opened and their ears unstopped. Isaiah 29:24
I know there are some here who are very confused, but do as I do and ignore their posts.

 

[Straightshot]

That is beside the point .... I want to know who BAB thinks are the human conspirators in his conspiracy theory of the NWO and all of the related extra-biblical speculations

 

[Riberra]

Riberra, what explains the Sixth Seal the best, is a Coronal Mass Ejection.
Confirmed by Isaiah 30:26a and Malachi 4:1
A CME will literally fulfil all the highly descriptive prophesies about the Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath. It is this worldwide disaster that will set the scene for a OWG; a 10 region confederation initially ruled by 10 Presidents, but eventually ruled by one charismatic dictator.
Wait for the Day! It will happen and the world will not be the same again

Can you explain the mechanism about how a super massive CME will cause the great earthquake of the 6 Th seal ?
Personally I think that the great earthquake will be caused by God.While that the "stars" falling on the earth will be an enormous meteor shower caused by a thick cloud of space dust colliding with the Earth.
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

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at the same time a shock wave caused by the impact of the thick space dust cloud colliding with the Earth will cause the upper atmosphere of the Earth to roll like a scroll.

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Revelation 6
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together

 

[Riberra]

That is beside the point .... I want to know who BAB thinks are the human conspirators in his conspiracy theory of the NWO and all of the related extra-biblical speculations

-The Zionists International Bankers.

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-rothschild.html

-The military industrial complex.
Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. - YouTube


► 2:31
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY4

Link:
Susan Eisenhower, "50 Years Later, We're Still Ignoring Ike's Warning", The Washington Post, January 16, 2011, p. B3.

-The Globalists.
Link:
http://www.globalistagenda.org/who.htm

“We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent.”
- Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950

 

[vinsight4u]

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