The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

[vinsight4u]

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[Straightshot]

Much confused are the ideas just above

The related prophecies are misquoted or misplaced, the speculation is murkey, and the historical record is either left out or ignored by the actual events

For example the collector of taxes was Philopater and Antiochus IV was this king [Daniel 11:21-35]

These men are both historical, and the historical records agree with the fulfilled prophecies 100%

Understanding and comparing prophecy with the records of human history requires accuracy and correct application .... not a task for the novice

And the core problem of presenting on a hit and miss basis is to make the prophetic word look suspect .... the results can turn people away from seeking and learning what they need to know for their own saving

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Riberra]

Riberra, stop and think for a minute. What event ended WWII? It was the two Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan.

Since then the nations of the world have 60 or 70,000 nuclear weapons. If there was a WWIII, this planet would be lifeless.

The scenario you are suggesting is not realistic.

Obviously WWIII is not planned to be a nuclear war.

 

[keras]

Vinsight4u, you post as though what you say is unalterable truth. You ignore correction.
This is not reasoned discussion.
That you are in error with most of what you promote above, is proved by the historical record and your shuffling of the Revelation sequence. How can the Sixth Seal end the Great Tribulation? What is described then is similar, but not the same as the Sixth Seal, worldwide devastation. No moon effects at the demise of mystery Babylon.

There seems to be a sad lack of understanding of what God's plans really are for the last days. I consider 2 Peter 3:1-7 puts it the best: ...remember the predictions made by the prophets....scoffers will come, they forget that God judged the world once before and the next time it will be by fire, when the godless will be destroyed.
THIS is what will come next and it won't be a nuke war, but something instigated by the Lord, as Amos 1 says 5 times: I will send fire.... Psalms 11:4-6 The Lord is in heaven, watching mankind...He hates those who love violence. He will rain fiery coals upon the wicked, they will drink the cup of His wrath.
There are over 100 prophesies that prove this scenario, most in the OT but as well as Revelation, these in the NT: Matthew 3:12, Acts of the Apostles 2:19, Romans 1:18, Romans 9:22, 1 Corinthians 3:13, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Hebrews 1:27, 1 Peter 4:12
Anyone who says there will be WW3, or all the prophesies like that are past history, or any other convoluted scenario, just hasn't read their Bible properly.

 

[Riberra]

"That is right that the 1948 creation of the State of Israel was inevitable and allowed by God to fulfill the end time prophecy.However that is not the true gathering of Israel and Judah that the Scriptures is talking about."

Correct .... but necessary

The rest of your post is highly suspect and mostly conjecture [extra biblical .... and of the conspiracy buffs]

Stick to the scriptures if you want truth .... I would suggest not mixing with the ideas that you have added

Since the beginning of humanity there is two plan running side by side.The Bible tell us about There is the Satanic conspiracy ....and God's plan.
In the OP i expose that this is the timing of God's plan who will prevail about the End time prophecies .However the Satanic/Illuminatis conspiracy whose plan is exposed have entered in his new phase since 2001 and continue today with the ISIS group action. How many nations were implied during the war against Afghanistan and Irak?Trillions of dollars were spend?USA is near bankrupt because of these wars. How many Nations are actually implied to drop bombs on the head of ISIS without being able to stop their advance ... Next step for WW3 will be Israel making a preemptive strike against Iran's nuclear installation...
When historians of the future will write the history book of WW3 they will place Sept 11, 2001 as being the beginning...

Satanic conspiracy exposed ...
Satan's Final Deception Before Christ Returns
After the Third World War, the New Temple Will Be Rebuilt for Antichrist, Not Jesus Christ
It is the synagogue of Satan (those that say they are Jews but are not) that will rebuild Solomon's temple.
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The Middle East crisis will lead to World War III.. Antichrist will appear at the end of WWIII to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. A one-world government with a one-world religion will be established, the anti-Christian kingdom prophesied in chapter 13 of the book of Revelation. This one-world power will offer apparent peace and security to a world in chaos. The devil, Satan, will establish his earthly kingdom for "the time allowed mentioned in the Bible/ for a time, and times, and half a time," so that he as God will stand in the holy place, showing himself that he is God, and he will deceive many with his signs and wonders.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them. - 1st Thessalonians 5:3
The goal of the New Jerusalem Covenant Project is to create the plan by which Antichrist can solve the Middle East crisis; Antichrist will use this crisis to stage his appearance in the world. Antichrist is supposed to appear at the end of the Middle East crisis (World War III). The prophetic reality of Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24:15 and Revelation 11:1-12 is that the new Temple will be built after World War III and will produce the Man of Sin. Thus, the Illuminati plans to destroy the Dome of the Rock during the World War III fighting so that their Antichrist can rebuild Solomon's Temple.This reality means that Arabs will retain control over the Temple Mount until the moment Antichrist comes to the world scene and seizes it for the Jews so his temple can be created. "Peace and safety" will be heralded, and the leaders of the major nations will be busy taking credit for their "brilliant" leadership that seemingly finally solved the deeply engrained religious strife in and around Jerusalem that has plagued mankind for the past 1,400 years.-
Source:
http://oneworldpower.blogspot.ca/2009/09/new-temple-will-be-built-after-third.html

 

[Straightshot]

Bad source RB... little biblical support .... rampant speculation

Better for you to stick with the scriptures

 

[Riberra]

Bad source RB... no biblical relationship .... ranpant speculation

Stick to the scriptures

There is one biblical relationship ,the Bible tell us that during the End Time before the return of Jesus the world will be divided into 10 Kingdoms who will be united into a One World Government by the Beast.

There is no doubt that there is mention about a One World Government in the Book of Revelation who will be ruled by the (Beast)Antichrist during the last 3,5 years of the Tribulation...A major event (The 6 Th seal great worldwide earthquake devastation ) must come first before its emergence and total implementation.

Listen now to God's prophecy concerning the secret plans which these 10 rulers devise to seize control of the world and then hand this control over to Antichrist [the Beast]. Notice that these 10 rulers are secretly working with Antichrist even before he becomes public:
Revelation 17:12-13,17
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...17&version=KJV

"The 10 horns that you observed are 10 rulers... who are to receive power and authority for a single hour, along with the beast. These have one common policy (purpose), and they deliver their power to the beast... God has put it into their hearts to carry out His own purpose by acting in harmony in surrendering their royal power and authority to the beast until the prophetic words of God shall be fulfilled." [Revelation 17:12-13, 17]
A careful reading of this passage makes it very clear that the 10 rulers devise a plan prior to the appearance of Antichrist, and that they plan to turn their political power over to the Antichrist as soon as he arises. This scenario is very consistent with Daniel's revelations about the 10 toes and 10 rulers in chapters 2 and 7, respectively.

Therefore, when we see the U.S. President leading the global charge to a United Nations' government, we know that this is Satan's plan, not God's. We can also know that its final implementation is the result of a conspiracy, supernaturally directed by Satan for well over 100 years. And, just as the Bible foretold, this conspiracy will result in the appearance of Antichrist.
Source:
Link
UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings

Link
The Post War II New World Order Map: A Proposal to Re-arrange the World after an Allied Victory | Global Research


The 6Th Seal events... yet to come:
Revelation 6
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+6&version=KJV

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places


A thick cosmic cloud of space dust between the Earth and the Sun in a collision course with the Earth can explain the celestial events of the 6 Th seal ....

During the day the thick cosmic space dust cloud between the Sun and the Earth will cause the Sun to became black as a sackcloth of hair.Like an eclipse.
the sun became black as sackcloth of hair,

At Night it will produce a Lunar eclipse
the moon became as blood;




The thick cloud of space dust colliding with the Earth will cause a very spectacular shooting stars observation ....

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

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at the same time a shock wave caused by the impact of the thick space dust cloud colliding with the Earth will cause the upper atmosphere of the Earth to roll like a scroll.

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Genesis 6
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together

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Genesis 6
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+6&version=KJV

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places

The massive earthquake mentioned in verse 12 explain why

- every mountain and island were moved out of their places.-
The establishment of a One World Government.
The massive worldwide Earthquake of the 6 th seal will destroy almost all the electric power supply of the cities Worldwide. Add to that the destruction of the infrastructures and water facilities in all the cities of the World.That will be during those years of crisis and rebuilt,under martial law that the One World Government which was planned long time ago will finally emerge.The World will be divided into 10 Kingdom administrated by 10 "Kings"that will be ruled by the (Beast)Antichrist during the last 3,5 years of the Tribulation.

 

[Straightshot]

There is no description in Bible prophecy of a "one world" government as described above in the first place

A very different setting is presented in prophetic scripture .... very different

 

[Riberra]

There is no description in Bible prophecy of a "one world" government as described above in the first place

A very different setting is presented in prophetic scripture .... very different

How do you interpret the meaning of [Revelation 17:12-13, 17]?

Revelation 17:12-13, 17
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

 

[Straightshot]

This is not a picture of a "one world" government

Satan's beast from the abyss rules 7 kingdoms in the Middle East .... 5 past, two coming

The human little horn will emerge out of the Syria/Iraq region of the northern Middle East and will rule the Middle East with 10 other kings .... the populations of the Middle East are primarily adherents of Islam

The biblical picture is the controversy between Israel [Issac/Jacob] and the Muslims [Ishmael/Edom]

This will draw the entire world during the coming tribulation, but Satan's beast in the little human horn will not rule over the entire earth

However, this Muslim caliphate will cause grave destruction against other opposing nations .... and the same will be successful in subduing Israel for a short period of time .... Satan's beast will have supernatural powers in warfare

But the Lord will come and destroy them all at the battle of Armageddon

This is the picture presented in the prophetic scriptures .... and the stage is setting up as we speak

 

[Riberra]

This is not a picture of a "one world" government

**Satan's beast from the abyss rules 7 kingdoms in the Middle East .... 5 past, two coming

*The human little horn will emerge out of the Syria/Iraq region of the northern Middle East and will rule the Middle East with 10 other kings .... the populations of the Middle East are primarily adherents of Islam

**The biblical picture is the controversy between Israel [Issac/Jacob] and the Muslims [Ishmael/Edom]

**This will draw the entire world during the coming tribulation, but Satan's beast in the little human horn will not rule over the entire earth

**However, this Muslim caliphate will cause grave destruction against other opposing nations .... and the same will be successful in subduing Israel for a short period of time

But the Lord will come and destroy them all at the battle of Armageddon

That would be interesting if you back up the above claims marked with ** with their associated verses from the Scriptures.



We know that Jesus will destroy the armies assembled at Armageddon .

 

[Straightshot]

"That would be interesting if you back up the above claims marked with ** with their associated verses from the Scriptures."


This can be done and I do it on this forum

If you have an interest I will review the same with you and answer reasonable questions

.... what I will not do is banter over the subject

 

[keras]

Riberra, what explains the Sixth Seal the best, is a Coronal Mass Ejection.
Confirmed by Isaiah 30:26a and Malachi 4:1
A CME will literally fulfil all the highly descriptive prophesies about the Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath. It is this worldwide disaster that will set the scene for a OWG; a 10 region confederation initially ruled by 10 Presidents, but eventually ruled by one charismatic dictator.
Wait for the Day! It will happen and the world will not be the same again.

 

[Douggg]

How do you interpret the meaning of [Revelation 17:12-13, 17]?

Revelation 17:12-13, 17
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The ten kings are ten EU leaders. The EU is the end times 4th kingdom The little horn will emerge to become leader of the EU. Then the little horn's next function is to become the king of Israel, the Antichrist.

After 3 years 4 months, thereabouts, he thinks in his heart that he has achieved God-hood. Makes the claim, and is killed and comes back to life. No longer the Antichrist king of Israel, but as the beast of which the original ten EU leaders are going to go along with his apparent conquering death and his claim of God-hood. They will pledge the EU to him in that role the God-man.

In Daniel 11:40-45, the world is divided in the four quadrants as far as the north, the south, the east, and the west. Which makes the notion of a ten regions of the world speculation not possible - because otherwise those regions would be fighting against one another.

The beast although having global power and domination, his powerbase will be the EU and western nations like the U.S. and Canada... he will be the king of the west, when the fighting begins in Daniel 11:40-45 near the end of the 7 years.

 

[keras]

The ten kings are ten EU leaders. The EU is the end times 4th kingdom The little horn will emerge to become leader of the EU. Then the little horn's next function is to become the king of Israel, the Antichrist.

The old notion of the EU being the 10 kingdoms, went down the plug hole of history when more than 10 joined. Even then, it was a wrong premise, as the NWO will be a worldwide government. The 10 regions are already decided.
The eventual dictator of the NWO will make a peace treaty with new Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] proving they are not members of the NWO.
Correct, at the middle of the seven year treaty, the leader of the OWG will attack and conquer Beulah, Zechariah 14:1-2. But this triggers the terrible punishments of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, culminating in the Return of Jesus, where He kills the Anti-Christ's army and chains him up. Revelation 20:1-3

 

[Riberra]

"That would be interesting if you back up the above claims marked with ** with their associated verses from the Scriptures."


This can be done and I do it on this forum

If you have an interest I will review the same with you and answer reasonable questions

.... what I will not do is banter over the subject

Lets do some comparisons :
You wrote:
1-"The biblical picture is the controversy between Israel [Issac/Jacob] and the Muslims [Ishmael/Edom]

2-This will draw the entire world during the coming tribulation, but Satan's beast in the little human horn will not rule over the entire earth"
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My comments:
Without the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 after WW2 the fulfillment of the controversy between Israel [Issac/Jacob] and the Muslims [Ishmael/Edom] would have been impossible.The Luciferian plan (conspiracy)put forward by the Illuminati (human agenturs of Satan) will fulfill that part of the Biblical prophecy...

Look at the similitudes:Red and blue text from what you wrote and the plan for WW3..

1-"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

2-Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

Source link:
WW3 - More About Albert Pike and Three World Wars
Albert Pike and Three World Wars
Continued from Part 1.

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order ... We can observe the progression of the Luceferian/Illuminatis plan (conspiracy) from the latest news ....that you enjoy giving a wrap up on almost a daily basis on some of your other threads about ISIS and the Caliphates.

 

[keras]

So someone way back in 1871 knew about the end times? What about Miller, the founder of the SDA's?
No way did they have the Prophetic truth, Daniel 12:9-10 refutes that idea.

Will there be a WW3? Not according to the prophets, Ezekiel 7:14, Isaiah 8:9-10. and many other verses saying that the Lord Himself will destroy the attackers of Israel.

 

[Riberra]

So someone way back in 1871 knew about the end times?
No way did they have the Prophetic truth, Daniel 12:9-10 refutes that idea.

Will there be a WW3? Not according to the prophets, Ezekiel 7:14, Isaiah 8:9-10. and many other verses saying that the Lord Himself will destroy the attackers of Israel.

WW3 is in progression since Sept 11,2001.Do you remember how many nations were allied and how much money it have cost during the Afghanistan and Irak wars to fight Al Quaida?Do you know how many Nations are actually allied to drop bombs to seemingly trying to stop the advance of the ISIS group without being able to really stop their advance ?

WW1 and WW2 battlefield was Europe.
WW3 battlefield is the Middle East.



http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

WW3 - More About Albert Pike and Three World Wars
Albert Pike and Three World Wars
Continued from Part 1.

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order ... We can observe the progression of the Luceferian/Illuminatis plan (conspiracy) from the latest news

 

[keras]

World War Three in progress?
From an American perspective and with a vivid imagination, maybe.
So what do you think will be the outcome of this 'war'? Remember this thread is about the Sixth seal - hint, hint.

For me, I prefer to believe the Prophetic Word.