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Film, video, voice recording have a clinical accuracy about them that human memory cannot match. So, when we recall our life the narrative with which we accompany our visual recollections is full of justifications, reasons, explanations for why we chose to do or say one thing rather than another. It is tragic to observe how often the narrative is there to excuse the wrong we did.

At the last judgement our narrative will be absent, the visuals of our life will be accompanied with the words of the Lord Jesus Christ. Every act and every thought will be weighed by what our Lord taught us. And when we excuse ourselves for actions wrongly taken, inaction that makes us feel shame, unkindness in thought, word, and deed our excuses will be absent from the evidence before the judge.

How do you anticipate the retelling of your life will go?

Will you think, or maybe hope, that you'll be justified because of what Jesus did to save sinners?
 

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Evil prevails on earth until -- > Dan 7:22 until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

Rev 14:7 "The Hour of God's judgment has come" - is the message going out today. Each one stands before the judgment seat of Christ as He does His work in heaven - evaluating each case.

Rom 2 describes how they evaluate each case - either saved or lost​
"3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.​
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel."​


That work of Christ judging each person as we see in Rom 2 was future to Paul's day. It is present reality in our day. That is the work Christ is doing in heaven right now.
 
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I think I disagree with OP.

Romans 2:15
They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)


Matthew 12:37 By your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned.
 
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I think I disagree with OP.

Romans 2:15
They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)


Matthew 12:37 By your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned.
I think I am not sure how you disagree :)
 
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Film, video, voice recording have a clinical accuracy about them that human memory cannot match. So, when we recall our life the narrative with which we accompany our visual recollections is full of justifications, reasons, explanations for why we chose to do or say one thing rather than another. It is tragic to observe how often the narrative is there to excuse the wrong we did.
At the last judgement our narrative will be absent, the visuals of our life will be accompanied with the words of the Lord Jesus Christ. Every act and every thought will be weighed by what our Lord taught us. And when we excuse ourselves for actions wrongly taken, inaction that makes us feel shame, unkindness in thought, word, and deed our excuses will be absent from the evidence before the judge.
How do you anticipate the retelling of your life will go?
The worse it is prior to rebirth, the more glory to the mercy of God, by faith through the Holy Spirit in the atoning work of by Jesus Christ.
Will you think, or maybe hope, that you'll be justified because of what Jesus did to save sinners?
I'm already justified (declared forensically righteous--with a sentence of acquittal of guilt) by faith (Ro 3:28), and
am being made actually righteous by obedience in the Holy Spirit which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16, Ro 6:19).
 
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The worse it is prior to rebirth, the more glory to the mercy of God, by faith through the Holy Spirit in the atoning work of by Jesus Christ.

I'm already justified (declared forensically righteous--with a sentence of acquittal of guilt) by faith (Ro 3:28), and
am being made actually righteous by obedience in the Holy Spirit which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16, Ro 6:19).
So you confidently assert. Who among the living here on CF can gainsay you? Yet one wonders if confidence such as that may be driven by motives and beliefs not exactly in tune with the promises of the holy scriptures. "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." 2 Peter 3:17

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
2 Peter 3:14-18
 
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So you confidently assert. Who among the living here on CF can gainsay you? Yet one wonders if confidence such as that may be driven by motives and beliefs not exactly in tune with the promises of the holy scriptures. "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." 2 Peter 3:17
Yet, lack of confidence in one's salvation is nowhere presented as virtue in the NT.
See 2 Co1:22, 2 Co 5:5, Eph 1:14, Ro 8:22-39, etc.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
2 Peter 3:14-18
Is that a declaration of his falling, or an exhortation to remain faithful, which exhortations are one of the ways God preserves the wheat, who heed those exhortations, while the tares do not?

Exhortations to remain faithful are everywhere in the NT, as aids in doing so.
 
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Is that a declaration of his falling, or an exhortation to remain faithful, which exhortations are one of the ways God preserves the wheat, who heed those exortations, while the tares do not?

See 2 Co1:22, 2 Co 5:5, Eph 1:14, Ro 8:22-39, etc.

Lack of confidence in one's salvation is nowhere presented as virtue in the NT.

Exhortations to remain faithful are everywhere in the NT, as aids in doing so.
Yes, many warnings. Cautions about pride among them. The scriptures teach that it's from within that corruptions arise.
And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
Mark 7:14-23
 
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Yes, many warnings. Cautions about pride among them. The scriptures teach that it's from within that corruptions arise.
And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
Mark 7:14-23
Thanks. . .clearly settling the issue that food does not defile. . .(Ro 14:14)
 
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Film, video, voice recording have a clinical accuracy about them that human memory cannot match. So, when we recall our life the narrative with which we accompany our visual recollections is full of justifications, reasons, explanations for why we chose to do or say one thing rather than another. It is tragic to observe how often the narrative is there to excuse the wrong we did.

At the last judgement our narrative will be absent, the visuals of our life will be accompanied with the words of the Lord Jesus Christ. Every act and every thought will be weighed by what our Lord taught us. And when we excuse ourselves for actions wrongly taken, inaction that makes us feel shame, unkindness in thought, word, and deed our excuses will be absent from the evidence before the judge.

How do you anticipate the retelling of your life will go?

Will you think, or maybe hope, that you'll be justified because of what Jesus did to save sinners?
Many thoughts come with this. For example, the fact that there is no end to our existence there, means "that day" could take many times the progression of time here on earth (so to speak, haha).

I tend to think there is no replay, but actual 'viewing' or 'knowing' all details as they come to pass temporally. That might induce someone to think there is an implication that even now, we are all up there looking down on ourselves doing what we do. But that is a temporal notion —a notion about vapor— the real yet to come.

More interesting to me is the realization that we will not just see/hear/know the details of every thought and deed, but that the "details" means ALL the details that impinge on every thought and deed. And therefore, all that caused those details! And so on. But not to worry —there will be 'plenty of time for that', haha! And if there is a passage of eternity, that day is hardly a dot within it.

That day will be to God's glory, where we not only see his generosity and mercy and forebearance and love, but his wisdom and his beauty and his pain and his joy. Proverbs 14:10 says, "Each heart knows its own bitterness, and no one else can share its joy." But I think this is when that verse is finally resolved, when we see him as he is and understand what he has done.
 
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I know a theologist/preacher who said that one thing he expects to be surprised about is just who will be there, and even more surprised that he himself will be there! There's something to that. It is not our judgement by which we are exonerated nor condemned.

But this "giving account" will go very well for all who are redeemed, in that God will get all the glory, and his grace will be unavoidably obvious. It was part of his plan for there to be sin and failure of his own people, so that "grace may abound".
 
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