The ONE LAW Movement

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2. I think it is pretty COMMON BELIEF among Messianics that gentiles should keep the Torah. So I don't need to "face facts that other's don't share my beliefs" since my beliefs are pretty popular.
Dan Juster and Russ Resnik of UMJC have written a paper on the One Law movement. You can read the whole paper here:
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/888630/19816732/1344826309507/Juster_Resnik_One_Law_Movements.pdf?token=iOwELkagq/XxiljaOAMyFHgpzCA=

The One Law movement basically is those who teach that Gentiles as well as Jews should obey the Torah. It is true that this belief has become a significant minority with messianic Judaism. But it certainly isn't the major view and it is being fought hard. Both views are represented here in our own forum.

Juster and Resnik begin by over viewing the history of the One Law movement, and make the case for One Law. Then point by point, scripture by scripture, they dismantle that case. When the case for One Law is in shambles, they begin building a case for Jews having a unique calling to Torah. They end by discussing the dangers of usurping Israel's irrevocable calling and the unique place of Messianic Jews.

It goes without saying that even if Gentiles have no obligation to obey Torah, that they are perfectly free to obey out of love.
 

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People have fought against what Yahweh taught from the beginning.

Those who teach against the law today will be shocked if they really are saved because they will be chastised by Yeshua himself.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

There is another group who wants to keep Yahweh to themselves. "Sure, you can go this far, but only we elect can do this or that." "Gentiles cannot or should not keep the law." They are responsible for much grief also. There is only one law because we are grafted into the same tree. Deny it at your peril. The time is too short to allow plainly heretical teaching.
 
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People have fought against what Yahweh taught from the beginning.

Those who teach against the law today will be shocked if they really are saved because they will be chastised by Yeshua himself.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

There is another group who wants to keep Yahweh to themselves. "Sure, you can go this far, but only we elect can do this or that." "Gentiles cannot or should not keep the law." They are responsible for much grief also. There is only one law because we are grafted into the same tree. Deny it at your peril. The time is too short to allow plainly heretical teaching.
So... did you read the article?
 
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So... did you read the article?

I know Juster's work well, I reject it categorically. The bible says one Law for Israel and the ger who attaches him/herself to the God of Israel. The problem sis... the MJAA was created to evangelize the Orthodox by Jews for Jesus back in the early 70's. In doing so, they are not accepted by the Orthodox and because they are Jewish, they have continued with something of a wall between themselves (the true Jews in their eyes because they have Yeshua) and any non-Jews, whether they believe or not. They have become an island unto themselves and thus they interpret from that paradigm. They can't accept anyone else being part of Israel because their target, the Orthodox, don't consider them part of Israel. They are seen as Christians in Jewish clothing.

We have the bible... and it states one law for Israel and the stranger (ger) with them... period! If you don't like that, if that stands against you beliefs, fine... but that is what the bible says. There are no covenants made with gentiles EVER in Scripture, only the House of Judah and her companions and the House of Israel and her companions, PERIOD. No "gate for the gentiles" in the New Jerusalem... just 12 gates, one for each tribe. Israel is the people of God, always has been and always will be.... but like Joseph who did not look like his brothers, and who wore a multi-colored (cultural) coat, Israel is not just Jews but also many from the nations in every color, race and shape.
 
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So... did you read the article?

I had before, but I went back to check his conclusion to make sure what I remembered was correct. He is part of the second group I mentioned. The 'elect' or so they suppose themselves. To them, other people are all 'hangers-on', only good to serve the elect when they receive power.
 
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Acts 15 specifically declares that nothing should be required of the Gentiles but four laws, three of them related to blood.

In the same way that an employer doesn't want to make things too difficult for a new employee by requiring them to learn everything they will ever need to know about how to do their job up front, then goal in Acts 15:19-21 was not to make things too difficult for new Gentile believers coming to Christ. The four laws were a starting point that would allow them to have fellowship with the Jews as they continued to learn about how to obey God. It was intended for new believers, not mature ones. Acts 15:21 indicates that they would continue to learn about how to keep the law every Sabbath, otherwise what was his point in adding afterward?

Galatians 5 warns Gentiles not to receive circumcision or they will be required to keep the whole Torah. The clear implication here is that without circumcision, Gentiles are not required to keep the whole Torah.

The problem with the Galatians is that they were already justified by faith, but they were starting to listen to those that were saying that they had to keep the law in the way that the Jews did in order to be saved. If they were going to reject Christ's gift and try to become justified through their own effort, then they would need to keep the whole law in order to be justified. This implies nothing about whether Gentiles are required to obey the law for reasons other than justification.

Colossians 2 warns that no one is to judge the Colossians with regard to Sabbath, New Moons or festivals. These are a shadow; the substance is Messiah.

Paul would not use the words in Colossians 2:8 to describe God's holy, righteous, and good law, but rather as Colossians 2:20-23 details, he was speaking against human traditions and self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body. So the Colossians were not being judged for not keeping God's Sabbaths, but because they were keeping them, and Paul was encouraging them not to listen to those who were promoting self-made religion. Paul is saying that God's appointed times are important because they are shadows of the Messiah and the world to come and teach important things about him, so don't let anyone talk you out of obeying God's commands. Consistently throughout the Bible, man's traditions are rejected while God's commands are upheld. Furthermore, Colossians 2:8 would be pitting Jesus against the Father, as though Jesus were in disagreement about which laws should be obeyed. Jesus said he came to do the Father's will, not to oppose it.

In Galatians 4:10 Paul writes that he fears that he labored over the Galatian Gentile congregations in vain because they were now observing “special days, months, seasons and years.”

Galatians 4:8-10 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. 9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years!

Paul said he was speaking to those who formerly did not know God, so he was speaking to former pagans. They were not formerly keeping God's commands, so they could not be turning back to them. Weak and worthless elementary principles of the world again could not be referring to God's holy, righteous, and good law, but to self-made religion. So whatever Paul is referring to in verse 10 is within the context of pagan practices, not about following God's appointed times. It seems bizarre that someone who thinks that Jews should still keep God's law would argue that Paul, speaking as Jew, was referring to it as weak and worthless elementary principles of the world.

But Paul never qualifies his argument this way. He never writes anything like “for a discipled life of blessing, you all need to keep the whole Torah

This is an argument from silence, but it should be obvious that followers of God should obey His commands.

we cannot simply transfer the practices of pre-Yeshua times into the New Covenant period.

Why not?

Torah itself makes it clear that the Law has different applications for different groups. For example, purity laws and requirements for priests were different than purity laws for other Israelites. There were laws for men and laws for women, laws for widows, children, and so on. The Torah is not one homogenous whole, but is filled with diversity. Only as each group fulfilled its own destiny in Torah (men and women, for example) could there be true unity in the nation. Likewise, unity of Jew and Gentile does not require that there be one set of commandments for both, but that each group fulfill its own identity and destiny (1 Cor. 7:17-20).

Both Jews and Gentiles are required to have a righteous and holy conduct (1 John 3:10, 1 Peter 1:13-16). It's that simple. All of God's chosen people should follow His laws for how to have such a conduct. Paul saying that Jews should remain Jews and Gentiles should remain Gentiles does not indicate two different sets of commands.

It does not mean that Gentiles should be taught to keep all the details of law given to Israelites.

Why not?

Yeshua teaches mostly on those parts of Torah considered to be universal in accordance with Jewish teaching of that period. The Gospels give little space to the primary concerns of the Pharisees concerning Torah’s purity laws. From how to pray, to loving enemies, from lust in the heart to hatred in the heart, Yeshua teaches Torah that applies to all. There is no evidence that the Apostles ever taught Gentiles to keep the whole Torah, but only the Torah that was perceived as universal, just as Yeshua himself had done.

This runs contrary to Matthew 5:17-20.

As has been noted, these are very similar to the Noahide laws. This does not mean that Gentiles are free to murder, steal, and dishonor their parents. The passage assumes a universal morality, as do Paul, Peter, and James (who were present that day), and John in their writings. As Romans 2 notes, Gentiles can perceive the law of God, even without the revelation of Moses, and are responsible for many standards that are also expressed in the Bible. For example, classic Roman moral law taught the ideals of monogamous marriage, honoring parents, honesty and much more. The essential and unique addition of New Covenant ethics is the sacrificial example of Yeshua.

I see no good reason to think that anything God commanded in the Torah doesn't have universal morality, nor do I see good justification for assuming an exemption for a subset of God's laws while not allowing exemption for other of God's laws.

Thus, One Law teachers transform an ambiguous statement into a strong and unambiguous exhortation.

Again, it seems pretty clear to me, so I see no good reason to label is as ambiguous.

They apparently overlook, however, the fact that these words spoken in the council were not included in the apostolic letter that was circulated among the congregations. If this were such a crucial exhortation to Gentiles, it is amazing indeed that the apostles, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, did not think it important enough to put in their letter!

Another unjustified argument from silence.

Even were we to say that Gentiles are free to embrace Torah, the calendar of Israel, and more, there is no word that there is any covenant responsibility for Gentiles to do so. Acts 21 reinforces this impression. Here James tells Paul of the rumor that he teaches Jews who embrace Yeshua to forsake Torah. This of course is not true. So, Paul demonstrates this to be a false rumor by his Temple involvement. James reminds Paul that Gentiles were freed from responsibility for the full weight of Torah. Neither Paul nor James gives the slightest hint that they were encouraging full Torah observance among Gentiles. Paul could have said, “Not only do I not teach Jews to forsake Moses, but I even encourage Gentiles to embrace more and more of the Torah as they come to understand and appreciate it.” This is the emphasis of the One Law teachers, but there is not one word in the New Testament that explicitly encourages Gentiles to grow in keeping the whole Torah.

The basic law structure remained the same between covenants. God did not change what it meant to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct. This is another argument from silence that could easily be turned around by Paul taking the opportunity to support the opposite view.

Galatians 5 is a watershed passage. Here Paul in the strongest terms exhorts Gentiles not to receive circumcision. Some One Law teachers want to allow a legitimate option of circumcision, so they add the proviso that it should not be done for the wrong reasons. Yet, this is not in the text. The New Covenant offers the fullness of God’s blessing upon Gentiles without the necessity of circumcision. This was not the case in the Mosaic order.

Roughly 80% of men in the US are circumcised, so either argue that Christ is of no value to them or allow that the reasons for getting circumcised are important.

One additional aspect of One Law teaching is very confusing. The teaching advocates that Gentiles keep Biblical law, such as the festivals. One would expect that they would look into the Bible to see how to celebrate those festivals. Instead, they resort to post-Biblical Jewish practices. When One Law people practice a Passover Seder, for example, they often follow the order of traditional Jewish practice: four cups of wine, salt water, hand washings, Elijah’s chair and much more.

Instead of being truly “Biblical,” the One Law teachers appropriate various aspects of these Jewish traditions. Unfortunately, there is very little in their literature that shows their followers the distinction between what is Biblical and what is from Jewish tradition.

This is perhaps a valid concern, but it cuts both ways. There is nothing wrong with following traditions that are in sync with the Bible and not contrary to it, but if there is a way that is more closely in line with what the Bible instructs, then I'm all ears.
 
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Forget rejection, when any of these leader keep the Torah as it should be kept then I may entertain their 'papers' but I know for a fact that one of the two does not. And it isn't hard to understand why when his learning was done in Christian institutes.

I must add too that I've seen this with just about every Jewish man and a Gentile wife, it totally makes sense to me why G-d said to not intermarry, even if they are Christians because their beliefs will clash or one (usually the Jewish man) makes concessions.
 
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Dan Juster and Russ Resnik of UMJC have written a paper on the One Law movement. You can read the whole paper here:
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/888630/19816732/1344826309507/Juster_Resnik_One_Law_Movements.pdf?token=iOwELkagq/XxiljaOAMyFHgpzCA=

The One Law movement basically is those who teach that Gentiles as well as Jews should obey the Torah. It is true that this belief has become a significant minority with messianic Judaism. But it certainly isn't the major view and it is being fought hard. Both views are represented here in our own forum.

Juster and Resnik begin by over viewing the history of the One Law movement, and make the case for One Law. Then point by point, scripture by scripture, they dismantle that case. When the case for One Law is in shambles, they begin building a case for Jews having a unique calling to Torah. They end by discussing the dangers of usurping Israel's irrevocable calling and the unique place of Messianic Jews.

It goes without saying that even if Gentiles have no obligation to obey Torah, that they are perfectly free to obey out of love.
Thanks for the link to Juster's "One Law" paper. :wave:http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/888630/19816732/1344826309507/Juster_Resnik_One_Law_Movements.pdf?token=iOwELkagq/XxiljaOAMyFHgpzCA=

Juster says: "Most of the case for One Law is taken from the Hebrew Scriptures, such as Exodus 12:49: “The same law applies to the native-born and to the alien living among you.” The alien (ger in Hebrew) is viewed as the prototype of the Gentile who comes to Messiah. Several Torah passages apply the same law to native born and alien, for example, Leviticus 24:22, or Numbers 15:16" AND "Acts of the Apostles 15 specifically declares that nothing should be required of the Gentiles but four laws, three of them related to blood. Galatians 5 warns Gentiles not to receive circumcision or they will be required to keep the whole Torah"

But he leaves out the qualifying context of Paul's Torah statements:

"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." - Romans 10:4

"Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law." - Galatians 3:21


IOW, just as many here have said, the law doesn't save anyone. Being in covenant with YHWH is SALVATION.

Obeying YHWH's commands is HOW HE wants us ALL to live.

Being in covenant with YHWH is WHERE HE wants us to live.

IOW, BE SAVED (be in covenant with YHWH) and LIVE His commandments.

Acts of the Apostles 15:21 declares the new Gentile believers in the Jewish Messiah Yeshua will hear what they need to hear on Torah as they attend synagogue.

IOW, they'll end up learning Torah as they remain faithful to worship in synagogue with the Nazarim, so to make it an easy transition, start with the 4 laws in Acts of the Apostles 15:20, which allows them to at least eat with the Torah observant Nazarim.

This is why Hebrews 10:25 says not to stop gathering together. Gentiles need to fellowship with Nazarim to learn proper Torah application.
 
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This is why Paul said not to stop gathering together. Gentiles need to fellowship with Nazarim to learn proper Torah application.
When Paul said not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together, it was for the breaking of bread.
 
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When Paul said not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together, it was for the breaking of bread.
Yes. Absolutely true. :wave: Keeping the 4 laws in Acts of the Apostles 15:20 allowed the Gentiles to break bread with Torah keeping Nazarim.

But see what else Paul says in Hebrews 10:24:


"And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching." - Hebrews 10:24-25


Good works is mitzvot. Paul is advocating assembling together to stir one another up to love and mitzvot.

When Moses is read each Sabbath in synagogue the Gentiles will hear Torah mitzvot (good deeds) and be stirred up to do what they hear. Acts of the Apostles 15:21

"Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath." - Acts of the Apostles 15:19-21

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Yes. Absolutely true. :wave: Keeping the 4 laws in Acts of the Apostles 15:20 allowed the Gentiles to break bread with Torah keeping Nazarim.
Yes, I believe they all met together on Sunday.

I am not a One Law ahderant. I swing with the majority of MJs on this. I spent far, FAR too much time with Hashivenu to ever see it any other way.
 
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Thanks for the link to Juster's "One Law" paper. :wave:http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/888630/19816732/1344826309507/Juster_Resnik_One_Law_Movements.pdf?token=iOwELkagq/XxiljaOAMyFHgpzCA=

Juster says: "Most of the case for One Law is taken from the Hebrew Scriptures, such as Exodus 12:49: “The same law applies to the native-born and to the alien living among you.” The alien (ger in Hebrew) is viewed as the prototype of the Gentile who comes to Messiah. Several Torah passages apply the same law to native born and alien, for example, Leviticus 24:22, or Numbers 15:16" AND "Acts of the Apostles 15 specifically declares that nothing should be required of the Gentiles but four laws, three of them related to blood. Galatians 5 warns Gentiles not to receive circumcision or they will be required to keep the whole Torah"

But he leaves out the qualifying context of Paul's Torah statements:

"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." - Romans 10:4

"Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law." - Galatians 3:21


IOW, just as many here have said, the law doesn't save anyone. Being in covenant with YHWH is SALVATION.

Acts of the Apostles 15:21 declares the new Gentile believers in the Jewish Messiah Yeshua will hear what they need to hear on Torah as they attend synagogue.

IOW, they'll end up learning Torah as they remain faithful to worship in synagogue with the Nazarim, so to make it an easy transition, start with the 4 laws in Acts of the Apostles 15:20, which allows them to at least eat with the Torah observant Nazarim.

This is why Paul said not to stop gathering together. Gentiles need to fellowship with Nazarim to learn proper Torah application.
Further to this post:

Yeshua continually said HE came for the lost sheep of Israel, to bring them back into covenant. (Matthew 10:6, Matthew 15:24)

His Parable of the "lost coin", "lost sheep", and "prodigal son" make clear the Jews who stayed with YHWH remained "SAVED". The one's who wandered away needed to be brought back (Teshuva).

Praise YHWH that Yeshua also mentioned we could join Israel just as the ger joined Israel in One Law (Exodus 12:49, Leviticus 24:22, Numbers 15:16): "And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd." - John 10:16
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When Paul said not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together, it was for the breaking of bread.

Breaking bread can be just the general sense of sharing a meal. Jesus certainly wasn't the first person to do it.
 
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Praise YHWH that Yeshua also mentioned we could join Israel just as the ger joined Israel in One Law
"Gerim" in this verse doesn't apply to all gentiles but to converts who become Jews. They get circumcised (at least the men do) and take up the covenant and have a change of ethnicity. In another thread I DID propose that those gentiles in MJ who are so attracted to Israel that they wish to take up the 613 can take up the option to convert to Judaism through UMJC's conversion program.

So... what did you think of the article?
 
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In the NT, breaking bread was a euphemism for the Lord's Supper.

I've never considered that to be the case, all I see is your assumption that it is. In any case, it would be nice if you responded to my post in response to the article you linked.
 
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I don't think you're going to get any traction or approval for this article here. From my experience I've not seen the established MJ'ish organizations that well liked in this forum. Most here seem to refuse to be associated with any MJ organization. I've mainly seen those who strive to promote them ran out of here by the one lawers.
 
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I've never considered that to be the case, all I see is your assumption that it is. In any case, it would be nice if you responded to my post in response to the article you linked.
Acts 2:42 "They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer."
WHY would they devote themselves to eating a meal? Makes no sense. Devoting themselves to the eucharist makes sense.

1 Cor 10:16 "And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?" How can you call a regular meal the body of Christ?

And so Acts 20:7 also refers to eucharist.
 
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