The Beauty Of Conservative Women

[MachZer0]

Because you said all liberals are anti-American. I am a Liberal. Am I anti-American? From your logic it should be easy to conclude it.

I don't recall saying anything about "all" liberals. Perhaps you could refresh my memory

 

[Nathan Poe]

I don't recall saying anything about "all" liberals. Perhaps you could refresh my memory

But you did say "in general." It would be pretty cowardly to backpedal now, don't you think?

 

[MachZer0]

Don't the Tea Partiers make the same claim? Will they be voted in by conservatives or not?

Not that I recall but if you have some information to that effect, please feel free to share it

 

[MachZer0]

"No brainpower required!"
Ringo

Straight from Rules For Radicals

 

[Nathan Poe]

Not that I recall but if you have some information to that effect, please feel free to share it

So, the Tea Partiers don't want to change America, then -- more of the same, just with more mock anger funded by socialist blood money!

 

[MachZer0]

So, the Tea Partiers don't want to change America, then -- more of the same, just with more mock anger funded by socialist blood money!

Not fundamentally, no. But like I said, if you have some information otherwise, please share it

 

[MachZer0]

But you did say "in general." It would be pretty cowardly to backpedal now, don't you think?

Yes, in general, meaning usually but not always.

 

[okafor]

"No brainpower required!"
Ringo

Wow! And I thought one-trick-ponies were only in the circus.

You know, it's OK to just admit that you have no thoughtful response.

 

[hollyda]

And slavery, BTW, was perpetrated throughout our history, not by Republican/conservatives but by Democratic/liberals. Liberals had to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving up slavery and Jim Crow laws. So there is no moral high ground for liberals there, only shame. It's not the changing of cultural values that angers me, it's the insistence that government must be involved and force change, as if nothing is ever done unless government does it.

You really love sweeping generalizations, don't you?

Also -- liberals freed the slaves, thanks. In case you're not sure what the word liberal means, allow me to provide a definition.

"favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs."
---> source

In turn, here's the definition of conservative:

"disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change."
---> source

The terms "democrat" and "republican" don't apply to that particular discussion, as they have been ever-evolving since the birth of our nation. Ideologies such as "liberal" and "conservative" haven't changed; the parties to reflect them have. Democrats were not always associated with liberals, and conservatives were not always associated with Republican. In fact, even today you'll find liberal Republicans. I'm related to a few.

So, now that we know the definition of liberal ("favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs"), tell me again how freeing the slaves wasn't progressive reform? And, if you think about it, declaring war on Britain was a pretty progressive thing, as well. Who'da thunk it?

 

[MrJim]

 

[tulc]

I think liberals, in general, hate America every bit as much as the terrorists. They just have a different method of trying to destroy America

I'm a liberal and I love America.
tulc(so, that's at least one)

 

[MachZer0]

I don't think you're her type

 

[DaisyDay]

Maybe this video will resh your memory

YouTube - ‪Obama: "Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America"‬‏

Well, since I didn't see that the first time round, I don't remember it. Now that I have seen it, next time I will.

Thanks for the clip.

 

[DaisyDay]

And slavery, BTW, was perpetrated throughout our history, not by Republican/conservatives but by Democratic/liberals. Liberals had to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving up slavery and Jim Crow laws. So there is no moral high ground for liberals there, only shame.

You're mistakenly equating Democrat with liberal and Republican with conservative. Are you very, very young? Because that is a pretty silly mistake.

 

[okafor]

You're mistakenly equating Democrat with liberal and Republican with conservative. Are you very, very young? Because that is a pretty silly mistake.

No, it's not a mistake.

The Democratic party is the party of slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow laws. The Republcan party is the party of freeing slaves, and ending segregation. Liberals proudly link themselves to Democratic party history...expect for those very many ugly parts, which they try to lay at the feet of Republicans/conservatives. Republicans have been "classical" liberals from day one, while the Democratic party has jumped from one type of racial discrimination to another, whenever it was politically expedient to do so.
Democrats are "modern' liberals, Republicans are "classical"liberals. I don't even want to hear the ridiculous accusation that all the racist Democrats left the party and became racist Republicans.


The Long, Sad, Violent History of Democrats' Racial Hatred for Blacks

It has always seemed unnatural and unwise to me whenever I hear someone who's been slandered by a particularly egregious lie reply that they're not going to dignify that accusation with a response.

For it has always been crystal clear to me that whenever your honor, integrity and reputation are called into question that you should be quick, thorough and – when circumstances demand – quite loud in defense of them.

Otherwise, people will assume that the accusation must carry some weight and the falsity levied against you just might end up sticking.

That's what has happened to the political party that I belong to – the Republicans. For decades the Party of Lincoln has been under almost constant assault for being "racist" and "openly hostile" to blacks.

However, nothing could be further from the truth – but you would never know it by the party's spineless, practically nonexistent defense of its record on race and civil rights.

From the days of Lincoln until the present, blacks have had no better friend, party-wise, than the Republicans. Since its inception in the mid-19th century, the GOP has built an exemplary record on civil rights, particularly if you want to use the Democrat Party as a comparison.


YouTube - ‪Racism in the Democratic Party‬‏

 

[rambot]

No, it's not a mistake.

The Democratic party is the party of slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow laws. The Republcan party is the party of freeing slaves, and ending segregation. Liberals proudly link themselves to Democratic party history...expect for those very many ugly parts, which they try to lay at the feet of Republicans/conservatives. Republicans have been "classical" liberals from day one, while the Democratic party has jumped from one type of racial discrimination to another, whenever it was politically expedient to do so.
Democrats are "modern' liberals, Republicans are "classical"liberals. I don't even want to hear the ridiculous accusation that all the racist Democrats left the party and became racist Republicans.

"Classic/modern liberals" yet you provide no definition. A definition of "liberal" and "conservative" was already provided.. from an ACTUAL DICTIONARY . Do you have a problem with dictionaries? I only ask cause I have seen many right wingers who hate the tyranny of Webster).

What is being discussed in this thread is not party affiliation but political ideology. Presumably, you know the difference yes?

 

[rambot]

flashback....

rambot:

I think it's too bad that a Christian supports someone who routinely says such awful things about people; regardless of their political affiliation.

She's truthful and speaks against evil... as a Christian I'm proud to defend her.

She doesn't speak against evil. She speaks against liberals.

Being able to see the difference between "evil" and "a different opinion" is the only way America can save itself. If you choose to

Speaking of which, I think it's too bad that a Christian belongs to the Green Party with the way that party supports partial-birth abortion.... by definition it is a flat-out murder of a viable human infant. If the health of the mother is at risk, there is an alternative called a C-Section.

I value the lives of all living humans and they all deserve respect, my love and care, even the people I hate.

I know that Jesus said to love your neighbour as yourself; don't recall the Bible having anything to say about partial birth abortions (though I'm sure you'll trot out the verse of God knowing us before we were born [as though God doesn't know liberals who have been born and lived and deserve respect])

Machzero: Regarding your point that Coulter knows how to drive home a point;
If someone resorts to name calling and insulting that has nothing to do with some kind of "mastery of the English language" which your point implies, I'm not convinced they are good at driving home a point. If you don't mean to imply she has great use of the English language, I withdraw that comment though.


Sidebar impressions:
Conservatives think liberals want to destroy America.
Liberals think conservatives want to chain America to the past.

 

[okafor]

"Classic/modern liberals" yet you provide no definition. A definition of "liberal" and "conservative" was already provided.. from an ACTUAL DICTIONARY . Do you have a problem with dictionaries? I only ask cause I have seen many right wingers who hate the tyranny of Webster).

What is being discussed in this thread is not party affiliation but political ideology. Presumably, you know the difference yes?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7559824/



do you're own work in the future, I'm not your tutor or babysitter.

 

[RedDead1981]

Go ahead guys, yuk it up, I couldn't care less about your opinions.

Hey man, not cool. I've been very respectful in my disagreement with you and your positions. If that's how it's gonna be, find someone else to chat with.

 

[rambot]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7559824/



do you're own work in the future, I'm not your tutor or babysitter.

Reading your laughable opinion piece that contradicts a dictionary definition is not "work"; it's self delusional on the part of the author (canadafreepress...so no surprise there). As I've said, work from a dictionary or construct your own reality of terms.

You're right though, you are not my tutor or babysitter. Nor are you an informed, intellectually honest discussion partner I s'pose.


Unless it can just be agreed that we work with two different opinions on what "liberalism" and "conservativism" are defined as; I use a dictionary, you use whatever.