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That's not in the Bible

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Lady Bug, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. Lady Bug

    Lady Bug Tired of fake Christians

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    I kind of have a pet peeve, not about the intentions behind the statement, but the fact that I don't know where they are actually getting the statement from.

    I had just seen this statement somewhere else on CF and it got me thinking. It is said that God does not tempt us beyond what we can bear, but people also say that God doesn't give us any more than we can't handle and I swear that the latter statement is not in the Bible anywhere. Granted, Catholicism doesn't mandate that every single thing be in the Bible itself but I've heard this statement long said by Protestants as well and it kind of bugs me because I don't really see this in the Bible - not at all - I am not perturbed by the intentions of those who make the comment, but I want to know where exactly does God say that He won't give us more than He can handle?
     
  2. Studious One

    Studious One Guest

    While you would be hard pressed to find the phrase, "God will not give you more than you can bear," you will find the idea in Genesis 4.

    Cain, after killing Abel, received a punishment from God. Cain said it was harder than he could bear. Yet, if one reads on, Cain must have been able to bear his punishment, for he continued to live and even had children.

    I do believe that God does not give us more than we are able to handle.
     
  3. MoreCoffee

    MoreCoffee Well-Known Member

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    If you think of tests and "things" as closely related then the idea that God does not tempt anybody and does not test anybody beyond their ability to bear it ... doesn't it seem like the same thing is being said when folk say "God won't give us more than we can handle"?

    What I mean is this. If you receive more wealth (for example) than you can handle without falling into sin then isn't the wealth a test that has gone beyond what you can bear? Similar "things" can be substituted for wealth in the above.

    Does that make sense to you?
     
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  4. benedictaoo

    benedictaoo Legend

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    St Paul said it.

    He said, he will not test us beyond our strength and he will afford us a way out.

    It does not mean we automatically will have the strength to endure and choose rightly.

    We might not rise to the occasion... but we choose not to.

    We have the grace, God will give us the grace but we have to cooperate with it and it's not a walk in the park. It taks effort.

    And where is all this is in the bible? Catholicism knowing theology. Getting it right because God gave to them the authority to teach us these things in His name.

    Where is that in the bible? Matthew... why do we believe this is the correct exegeses of matthew? Because we have history that proves it is.
     
  5. Anygma

    Anygma Junior Member

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    wetter it's in the bible or not, i remember my parents and many peoples telling me that through my life. there's something else i heard not too long ago that makes sense to me, God sometime sends us things that are much more then we can handle on our own but with God's help we can, when we let God in charge... then we can praise God and give Him glory for what he did to help us through :)
     
  6. PilgrimToChrist

    PilgrimToChrist New Member

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    We should not pray for God to take away our temptations and sufferings but for the strength to bear them up so that we may grow in strength and advance in virtue. Suffering is the only way.

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    Hoorah!
     
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  7. AMDG

    AMDG Tenderized for Christ

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    :thumbsup: Remember asking the same thing a few years ago and ZooMom also pointed out that verse.
     
  8. eastcoast_bsc

    eastcoast_bsc Veteran

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    I think the are referring to Corinthians 1 10:13, but this scripture is referring to sin and temptation.

    But you should always remember this scripture, that Jesus said: "I am with you always, to the end of the age" Thats Matthew 28:20

    We will always have trials and tribulations. Those that tell you other wise are lying. Jesus tells us, that we need to pick up our crosses and follow him. The bible talks of this life, as a woman in labor, at the time there is pain and anxiety, then there is peace and joy.

    Paul said that he felt like an orphan, and that his body was but a tent, and that he longed to be home with Christ.

    I know I may sound like a broken record, but we need to read the WORD of God. It is nourishment, and is like a two edge sword, that cuts down even to bone and marrow.

    Don't let anyone lie to you. Read the word, and follow Christ.
     
  9. SolomonVII

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  10. Lady Bug

    Lady Bug Tired of fake Christians

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    um...ok? :confused:
     
  11. Foundthelight

    Foundthelight St. Peter's R.C. Church, Delhi, NY Supporter

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    God has provided the way to escape temptation. However, it is up to us to take advantage of that way. Those who believe in the error of OSAS use this verse to say that God will not let us fall into sin due to temptation. The truth is that many (most) will at one time or another give in to such temptation.

    Let us not condemn those who give into temptation, but rather, help them.
     
  12. benedictaoo

    benedictaoo Legend

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    what I want to know, where in the bible does it say "God helps those who help themselves..." I hear that all the time, and I believe it's true, but it's not in the bible specifically.

    Where is there any hint of it in there? Or is it just a reference to cooperating with grace?
     
  13. SolomonVII

    SolomonVII Well-Known Member

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    Ahh, you don't like my pun.

    Bottom line, it's not in the Bible. It is not even true.
     
  14. _Shannon_

    _Shannon_ Guest

    I completely disagree. Completely.

    "All things are possible with God."

    "Come to me, all you that are weary and are carrying heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."

    "No testing has overtaken you that is not common to everyone. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tested beyond your strength, but with the testing he will also provide the way out so that you may be able to endure it."

    That last verse sort of says it all in a nutshell there, doesn't it? God does not give us more than we can handle, through humility and reliance upon Him. Sometimes the way through is surrender. It's about cultivating prudence, asking for help when we need it, and allowing ourselves to understand that we must seek GOd in all things first and the details will follow. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct you paths"
     
  15. AMDG

    AMDG Tenderized for Christ

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    1 Cor 10:13 does indeed indicate that God will not give us more than we can bear.

    As for "God helps those who help themselves", I thought that Benjamin Franklin said that in Poor Richard's Almanac.
     
  16. benedictaoo

    benedictaoo Legend

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    yeah right... and autistics are schizophrenics.
     
  17. benedictaoo

    benedictaoo Legend

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    It's a popular saying, I think it's true.
     
  18. I've actually been asked several times if that saying "God helps those who help themselves" is in the Bible when I was working. I have to tell them no quite a few times for it to really sink it. When I was taking my ordination tests, that statement actually showed up a few times almost as a joke. I couldn't help but laugh when I saw it. :D

    -Mark
     
  19. SolomonVII

    SolomonVII Well-Known Member

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    What it really says is if 'you don't work you don't eat'.
    That's a little harsh though, don't you think?

    It seems to me that God really does help those who help themselves though. The first leap of faith is all on our own, then he scrapes us up off the bottom.

    Or maybe we get pushed after all, sort of like a pre-ordination that the Calvinist talk about.
     
  20. AMDG

    AMDG Tenderized for Christ

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    Now I think that is somewhere in the Bible. :p
     
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