"That's is like you and daddy."

[Sword of the Lord]

I watched the movie "Flight" with Denzel Washington earlier, and when he passed out on the coffee table and his woman covered him up with a blanket, my 7 year old said, "Mom, that's like you and daddy." I've never felt so low before.

 

[Anhelyna]

'Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings '

Maybe that comment, Mikhael, is the prod that you are needing to do something about your problems

 

[mea kulpa]

I watched the movie "Flight" with Denzel Washington earlier, and when he passed out on the coffee table and his woman covered him up with a blanket, my 7 year old said, "Mom, that's like you and daddy." I've never felt so low before.

You can do it man come on for your children you can do it with Gods help you can defeat your demons. I really really really most sincerely hope and pray you get that determination... for yourself for your wife for your children for christians all over the world for christ.... suffer the withdrawl and offer it up to christ for reperition get on the cross with him..... when you feel the pain think of his when you get low think how he felt...he will give you the strengh to do it suffer WITH jesus

 

[pdudgeon]

I watched the movie "Flight" with Denzel Washington earlier, and when he passed out on the coffee table and his woman covered him up with a blanket, my 7 year old said, "Mom, that's like you and daddy." I've never felt so low before.

sometimes hearing things like this from others is the only way we can recognize what is actually happening in our lives, because the reality of it is too horrible for us to face on our own.
God bless your child, your wife, and you.

 

[mea kulpa]

My wife grew up in a family where alcohol was a problem. She has been terribly scared by it. It lead to her parents splitting up but saddly even this did not take her out of the situation as her father fought for custody and as is typical he lost and my wife had to stay with her alcoholic mother. The damage done to my wife not intentionally by her mother(who when sober is a lovely woman) if she had known she would have stopped drinking. My wife even though she had a home to live in her meals cooked in effect didnt have any parents she had to stay with her mother so had no father her mother was always drunk so she had no mother... she was akin to an orphan but where an orphan has the orphanage a place of sobriaty and care my wife lived in a home of drunken fights and drunken verbal abuse. My wife is a brave woman but easily hurt but does not show it. I have to constantly remind her of my love in reassurance. She feels she has to be in total control of everything because her mother was never in control of herself let alone the home and when she is not in control she gets upset or if she is questioned by me or my children she gets angry and upset. She has a very low self worth and feels she is unlovable that the next time she gets angry or upset i will leave her and these are only some of the scars she has of grwing up in a home where alcohol is a problem.

Your that little girls ideal man your her daddy... you need to be her rock her safety net. Your the role model for her future husband. Dont scar your daughter like my wifes mother scared her

 

[anjelica]

Mea kulpa, what a moving post.

Mikhael, listen to what he says. Think of your kds, your wife, and the little one coming.

I can promise you that what mea kulpa has suggested DOES work.

Get ALL the help you can. For EVERYONES sake. If you love Christ, DO IT!

 

[mea kulpa]

Before i was born my father had issues with alcohol. Eventually at age 21 his stomace burst due to alcohol irritation of the stomace wall he had surgery to save his life. He could not have a drink for 2 years. After the doctors told him he could only drink a couple of pints of guiness but one led to two and two ended up being 20. One night after drinking 15 pints of guiness he lay in bed as if totally sober with a cold sweat and shaking and wanting more alcohol. He asked himself what he was doing to himself and he knew if he kept drinking he would die.

He got help and he stopped drinking. But it wasnt easy. For a longtime he could not leave the house some days he could not even get out of bed. Then after months he could get into the garden but anxiety would take hold and he would return into the house as the months passed he could get further and further before the anxiety struck. He rebuilt his life from total rock bottom. He is now 67 and still experiences anxiety and panic attacks. But in his life he learned to push his boundries of anxiety he became a nightclub disc jockee even owned his oen nightclub worked in canada and the usa (thats pretty far from home) on radio. He started and was a director of a radio station in the uk.... as he lived his life totally sober he saw those who he drank with die one by one with liver problems and other alcohol related illnesses... yes for years he struggled he still retains those scars of anxiety and panic attacks (tho now not very often) but he is alive and he has achieved things no one else in our village has ever achieved. For him when he stopped drinking he felt his life was over but in truth it was only just begining

 

[Davidnic]

We are praying for you Michael.

 

[anjelica]

Mikhael, i hope you can read and take in what mea kulpa has said. And yes, we are praying for you. Mit's a long hard road, but youCAN, with God's help, do it. He is mercuful. God be with you.

 

[mea kulpa]

Alcololism is rife here in the north east of England. It is culturally ingrained. But because my father and mother dont drink i grew up where it was not ingrained on me. So when i got to drinking age yes i would have a few drinks but it was not MY culture. So i would in large part stay away from those abusing alcohol and drugs. Because of this i did not fit in with society and it led me to discovering the full extent of my culture of family values and the catholic faith. If my father had continued to drink there is a good chance i would have been lost to the drinking culture... as the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crows the chicks learn

 

[mea kulpa]

A friend of my fathers came to him when he was in his late 50's he asked my father about stopping drinking he wanted the truth he said how hard it was what its like not drinking etc. His eyes and skin were yellow off jaundice...His name was dickie he was a lovely man he had turned to alcohol after he found his brother dead after hanging himself from a tree in the local woods when he was in his teens... so unfortunate it was his young brother who found him. My father told him your too old your too far gone you need a lifetime to beat it and to rebuild. But you can stop drinking if you have the determination if you have something you love more than you love the drink. If you want to see your children grow up get married you can do it. Dickie tried he really really tried but my father was right he was too old he was too far gone. He died about 5 years later i remember the funeral how many people turned out to pay their respects and how after his drinking buddies gathered into the pubs and drank themselves into oblivion in a kind of sick testimony to his life.

I guess what i am trying to convey is that giving up alcohol is a young mans game. You need the strengh to beat it and the hope of the future to rebuild your life.

I think its down to you and if you want to stop or not

If you dont want to stop nothing will stop you
If you want to stop nothing will prevent you

 

[Landon Caeli]

I watched the movie "Flight" with Denzel Washington earlier, and when he passed out on the coffee table and his woman covered him up with a blanket, my 7 year old said, "Mom, that's like you and daddy." I've never felt so low before.

Im sorry to hear of your despair. I too am forced to battle demons.

....lately I've been comparing Satan to a wild animal, like a dog. I tell myself not to 'feed' the animals, because when we give in to our addictions, we're literally feeding satan our souls.

It helps me to think of it that way.

 

[Landon Caeli]

...It always goes after the good ones -it's a big victory for him.

 

[Tallguy88]

My mom put up with a lot of abuse (never physical though) from my dad due to his drinking. The tipping point where she finally decided to leave him for good was when I was about 7 or 8 and he was being his usual drunk mean self towards her and I told him to leave her alone. That was it, she said she wasn't going to have me start getting in the middle if it and defending her from him.

Of course, I didn't find out that that was the exact reason for many years later. She didn't want me to think it was my fault.

Point being, when the kids start to notice how things really are, that's when you know there is a problem. Now hopefully you will put put the drink down for good before it costs you your family.

 

[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

My mom put up with a lot of abuse (never physical though) from my dad due to his drinking. The tipping point where she finally decided to leave him for good was when I was about 7 or 8 and he was being his usual drunk mean self towards her and I told him to leave her alone. That was it, she said she wasn't going to have me start getting in the middle if it and defending her from him.

Of course, I didn't find out that that was the exact reason for many years later. She didn't want me to think it was my fault.

Point being, when the kids start to notice how things really are, that's when you know there is a problem. Now hopefully you will put put the drink down for good before it costs you your family.

Touching story.
I would listen to this if I were you Mikhael.

 

[MikeK]

Michael, you cannot drink, not at all, if you want to be the man who raises your children. Your wife has been very patient with you, but she has a responsibility to your kids and likely will not tolerate it forever. The typical track these stories run is that she'll leave - because she has to leave and the kids need her to - and she'll eventually settle down with another man who will see much more of your children than you will and who will have a greater impact on their lives than you will. Some of these men end up being heaven sent. Many, very many, are not. All you have to do every day is not have that first drink. That's hard to do but it's also the easiest one to avoid.

 

[RKO]

Mik, you're my friend, but how many warnings do you think you have left to ignore? Was this the last one or are you counting on a few more?
And I know you don't like therapy or any other outside help, but willpower just ain't cutting it, is it?

 

[Sword of the Lord]

I poured out all my booze for starters.

 

[RKO]

That's a start.
Please don't try to do this unassisted. My friend, you are chemically dependent. its something about the application of booze to the wiring of your brain. You just can't will this away.
Find somebody you can respect or at least not disrespect, and get some help. You deserve it. And your family does too.

 

[Anhelyna]

What RKO said Mikhael.

You have said you can do it alone in the past - but you have not managed it.

This time - for the sake of your young family who wish to grow up with their father - please please get help.