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Fellow Origins Posters:
With a new year upon us I thought it might be a good time to take a step back a look at who we are and what makes us this way, more specifically, TEs and YECs.
The following statements are some of the ones that I can remember being made by TEs. As far as I know not a single one was ever refuted by another TE, so it would be safe to say that TEs, at least in general, believe these statements to be true. The purpose here is not to incite but to inform and assess what we believe.
When referring to the Bible as the Word of God many TEs are offended, to the point that some will call those who do believe this idolaters and/or blasphemers.
A TE stated that God loves everything, the animals, trees, plants and rocks, just like he loves us.
TEs stated that the feeding of the 5,000 was the miracle of sharing.
TEs are against the very idea of students even hearing about, much less studying, either Creationism or ID in a science classroom where origins is discussed.
These are in addition to the more obvious fundamental, foundational differences between TEs and YECs.
Not a single TE statement or view listed above can be supported by the Bible.
Most TEs views are supported by the secular world.
TEs will yoke themselves with unbelievers in order to discredit a fellow believer.
TEs believe the ACLU to be a good organization.
O.K., now that Ive said this, whats my purpose with this thread? The most obvious answer would be that I want TEs to accept Gods Word as it is plainly written, but that would be too simple and probably not very realistic. However it is a good thing to pray for.
So the purpose of this thread is to inform. Ive shown everyone how I see TEs and what I see as the fundamental differences between TEs and YECs are. If what Ive stated above is incorrect or needs modification then Id truly like to better understand. I would like all TEs who disagree with any of this statements to please feel free to do so, if no disagreement is noted then it would be safe to conclude these observations and/or statements to be true for the majority of TEs.
Now having said all that, Id like to take a moment and give my reasons for being a member of CF.
I cant speak for other YECs, but there are the two primary reasons I come here.
Unfortunately, at times, Ive allowed my flesh to get the better of me. Ive said things I regretted, due primarily to my pride and self-righteousness. Ive allowed certain individuals and/or statements to get under my skin when I shouldnt care what someone may or may not say about me. This has inhibited my ability to share and be the man God has called me to be. Im still a work in progress.
Im still growing in my walk, but when I see something that looks wrong and can affect others I tend to speak up. I pray the Holy Spirit tempers my tongue and uses it in a manner to draw attention to and glorify my Savior Jesus Christ and not to defend me and/or my views but only Him and His Word. Everything else is just a waste of time.
One of those issues that are a waste of time that YECs (me included) have at times raised and called into question is a TEs faith and/or salvation. This primarily comes from some of the things stated above. Still, whether a TE is or isnt a Christian isnt something I am called to determine. So even if a TE or anyone else demonstrates few of the characteristics that make someone a believer, Im not called to judge the individual. What I can and should judge are the individuals actions. So, my promise is to do just that, judge the actions, not the person.
With a new year upon us I thought it might be a good time to take a step back a look at who we are and what makes us this way, more specifically, TEs and YECs.
The following statements are some of the ones that I can remember being made by TEs. As far as I know not a single one was ever refuted by another TE, so it would be safe to say that TEs, at least in general, believe these statements to be true. The purpose here is not to incite but to inform and assess what we believe.
When referring to the Bible as the Word of God many TEs are offended, to the point that some will call those who do believe this idolaters and/or blasphemers.
A TE stated that God loves everything, the animals, trees, plants and rocks, just like he loves us.
TEs stated that the feeding of the 5,000 was the miracle of sharing.
TEs are against the very idea of students even hearing about, much less studying, either Creationism or ID in a science classroom where origins is discussed.
These are in addition to the more obvious fundamental, foundational differences between TEs and YECs.
- When the Bible says that that God created in the universe, earth and all that is in it in 6 days, TEs view this as non-literal, meaning it was either allegorical or mythological. YECs believe the Bible, more specifically Genesis 1, simply states exactly what occurred.
- Science plays a significant role as to how a TE views and/or interprets the Bible. Science plays no role, or at most, a very small role, on how a YEC views and/or interprets the Bible.
Not a single TE statement or view listed above can be supported by the Bible.
Most TEs views are supported by the secular world.
TEs will yoke themselves with unbelievers in order to discredit a fellow believer.
TEs believe the ACLU to be a good organization.
O.K., now that Ive said this, whats my purpose with this thread? The most obvious answer would be that I want TEs to accept Gods Word as it is plainly written, but that would be too simple and probably not very realistic. However it is a good thing to pray for.
So the purpose of this thread is to inform. Ive shown everyone how I see TEs and what I see as the fundamental differences between TEs and YECs are. If what Ive stated above is incorrect or needs modification then Id truly like to better understand. I would like all TEs who disagree with any of this statements to please feel free to do so, if no disagreement is noted then it would be safe to conclude these observations and/or statements to be true for the majority of TEs.
Now having said all that, Id like to take a moment and give my reasons for being a member of CF.
I cant speak for other YECs, but there are the two primary reasons I come here.
- To find out what people are saying and their reasoning for it.
- To defend and/or promote the Word of God.
Unfortunately, at times, Ive allowed my flesh to get the better of me. Ive said things I regretted, due primarily to my pride and self-righteousness. Ive allowed certain individuals and/or statements to get under my skin when I shouldnt care what someone may or may not say about me. This has inhibited my ability to share and be the man God has called me to be. Im still a work in progress.
Im still growing in my walk, but when I see something that looks wrong and can affect others I tend to speak up. I pray the Holy Spirit tempers my tongue and uses it in a manner to draw attention to and glorify my Savior Jesus Christ and not to defend me and/or my views but only Him and His Word. Everything else is just a waste of time.
One of those issues that are a waste of time that YECs (me included) have at times raised and called into question is a TEs faith and/or salvation. This primarily comes from some of the things stated above. Still, whether a TE is or isnt a Christian isnt something I am called to determine. So even if a TE or anyone else demonstrates few of the characteristics that make someone a believer, Im not called to judge the individual. What I can and should judge are the individuals actions. So, my promise is to do just that, judge the actions, not the person.