Seattle school implanting IUD's in girls as young as 6th grade without parental knowledge

[Sword of the Lord]

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/02/...g-as-6th-grade-without-their-parents-knowing/

 

[Fish and Bread]

I would like to see confirmation on this story from an objective news source before delving too deeply into it. I don't won't to start discussing or debating something in depth until I have reason to believe that it's true.

Obviously, though, I oppose people conducting any sort of surgery for middle school students that is not necessary to protect the patient's life or health, without parental consent. Implanting an IUD in a 6th grader would seem to fall under that category. It's very different from handing a high school upperclassman (or woman) a condom or birth control pills, which there is more of a case for because its not a surgery with long term health consequences and the patient is older.

 

[mark46]

I would like to see confirmation on this story from an objective news source before delving too deeply into it. I don't won't to start discussing or debating something in depth until I have reason to believe that it's true.

Obviously, though, I oppose people conducting any sort of surgery for middle school students that is not necessary to protect the patient's life or health, without parental consent. Implanting an IUD in a 6th grader would seem to fall under that category. It's very different from handing a high school upperclassman (or woman) a condom or birth control pills, which there is more of a case for because its not a surgery with long term health consequences and the patient is older.

You do understand that schools are permitted to give students birth control pills without parental consent, but not aspirins?

 

[bill5]

Yeah I'm not exactly holding my breath about this being true either, but as much as I can see opposition to it, frankly I wish it was legal AND the law of the land (the details would need ironed out of course). There is no sane reason for young girls old enough to conceive but hardly old enough to be parents NOT to get pregnant. That is not a "right" any girl should have.

 

[Fish and Bread]

You do understand that schools are permitted to give students birth control pills without parental consent, but not aspirins?

I always thought those rules against non-prescription pain killers unless dispensed by a nurse directly with signed parental consent were ridiculous for high school students. They should be able to take a couple of acetaminophen (Tylenol) or ibprofin (Advil) without parental consent, and probably even without a nurse's supervision. When I was in high school, I just ignored those rules and was discrete about taking them when I needed to. What can I say? I'm a rebel. Just not the Confederate anti-government kind.

Asprin might be a special case because of the health problems that are associated with long-term use in young people. Those health reasons are part of why we switched over to nextgen OTC non-prescription pain killers and antiinflammatories, for the most part. But, in theory, I don't think teenagers should need parental permission to take non-prescription medicines such as ibprofin while in school.

 

[Anhelyna]

What age are 6th Grade pupils ?

 

[Sword of the Lord]

What age are 6th Grade pupils ?

11-12

 

[LivingWordUnity]

But Jesus turning to them said, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. For behold, the days are coming when they will say, ‘Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bore, and the breasts that never gave suck!’ Then they will begin to say to the mountains, ‘Fall on us’; and to the hills, ‘Cover us.’" - Luke 23:28-30

 

[mark46]

I always thought those rules against non-prescription pain killers unless dispensed by a nurse directly with signed parental consent were ridiculous for high school students. They could be able to take a couple of acetaminophen (Tylenol) or ibprofin (Advil) without parental consent, and probably even without a nurse's supervision. When I was in high school, I just ignored those rules and was discrete about taking them when I needed to. What can I say? I'm a rebel. Just not the Confederate anti-government kind.

Asprin might be a special case because of the health problems that are associated with long-term use in young people. Those health reasons are part of why we switched over to nextgen OTC non-prescription pain killers and antiinflammatories, for the most part. But, in theory, I don't think teenagers should need parental permission to take non-prescription medicines such as ibprofin while in school.

One answer is for all parents to be given the opportunity to sign a consent form allowing the school nurse to dispense non-presciption drugs without further approval. Alternatively, the consent form could list certain drugs that are approved by the parents. It really would be straightforward for a nurse to check the file on a sick student sitting before them.

With regard to age, that is a matter of local law. You would consider high school students able to make their own decisions. That simply isn't the way school systems work, except in the case of condoms, birth control pills, and abortion counseling.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

It's the 4th of July, not make up fact day.

Jim

 

[mmksparbud]

I always thought those rules against non-prescription pain killers unless dispensed by a nurse directly with signed parental consent were ridiculous for high school students. They could be able to take a couple of acetaminophen (Tylenol) or ibprofin (Advil) without parental consent, and probably even without a nurse's supervision. When I was in high school, I just ignored those rules and was discrete about taking them when I needed to. What can I say? I'm a rebel. Just not the Confederate anti-government kind.

Asprin might be a special case because of the health problems that are associated with long-term use in young people. Those health reasons are part of why we switched over to nextgen OTC non-prescription pain killers and antiinflammatories, for the most part. But, in theory, I don't think teenagers should need parental permission to take non-prescription medicines such as ibprofin while in school.

Kids have a tendency to overdo things--well, so do adults for that matter If a little is good, a lot must be better---I can' tell you how many people I dialyzed because of overuse of Tylenol shutting down their kidneys. Ironically, Tylenol is what they can have instead of aspirin once they are on dialysis---aspirin can easily cause gastric bleeds on dialysis patients. Adults, too have shut down their kidneys with Tylenol.

 

[Sword of the Lord]

It's the 4th of July, not make up fact day.

Jim

Feel free to refute the source and provide your own to show how this is made up. Until then, this post is extraordinarily awful.

 

[ebia]

Yeah I'm not exactly holding my breath about this being true either, but as much as I can see opposition to it, frankly I wish it was legal AND the law of the land (the details would need ironed out of course). There is no sane reason for young girls old enough to conceive but hardly old enough to be parents NOT to get pregnant. That is not a "right" any girl should have.

Is there a typo in the bit if bolded?
It shortens to
"there is no reason for young girls not to get pregnant"

 

[AvilaSurfer]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...LEVEN-without-seeking-permission-parents.html
Here's a source the left uses often. Good enough?

 

[ebia]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...LEVEN-without-seeking-permission-parents.html
Here's a source the left uses often.

They do?
It's a bit better than lifesitenews, but it's hardly left nor a quality paper.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Feel free to refute the source and provide your own to show how this is made up. Until then, this post is extraordinarily awful.

Well some of us are grown up enough to know when a source is promoting an agenda based on bogus information.

Jim

 

[Sword of the Lord]

Well some of us are grown up enough to know when a source is promoting an agenda based on bogus information.

Jim

Present to us the bogus information and how you know this.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Present to us the bogus information and how you know this.

Not possible to prove a negative.

Just google the story and the only sites which present the story are conservative sites quoting from the same source.

Jim

 

[cmarie423]

I saw this news story on my local news actually. There isn't a link on the website, but I did find this one. http://grist.org/living/a-seattle-high-school-is-taking-birth-control-access-to-the-next-level/ I know that many people don't see this as factual but I do. Schools in many states are allowed to administer BC. This is just another form. Obviously they would need an actual doctor trained to insert this, but even at doctors offices in my town if a person is 11 or older they are allowed to have BC without parental consent. Not that this is a good thing at all by any means. But, schools are doing stuff like this.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

OK, I'll stand corrected on this. Apparently the story is true.

I guess I'm too old to realise how far we've digressed as a society.


Jim