Russia double-tap strikes 20-truck aid convoy in Syria

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"The attack on the convoy, made up of Syrian Red Crescent trucks carrying UN-supplied food, was reported to have killed at least 12 people and destroyed 18 trucks laden with food intended for tens of thousands of people cut off by the war in a rural area west of Aleppo city.

Aid officials said it was hit from the air while unloading food at a warehouse in opposition controlled Urem al-Kubra. Early reports suggested most of the dead were Syrian Red Crescent drivers.

Stephen O’Brien, the UN’s emergency relief coordinator, said that the convoy had been clearly marked and its route had been provided to all parties to the conflict."


US blames Russia after UN aid convoy in Syria targeted by air attack

Of course the regime/allies deny this just like they denied everything from using chemical weapons to barrel bombs to cluster munitions.
 
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"Another rescue worker, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retribution, said his team spent just 30 minutes in the wreckage before it heard the roar of approaching jets. “We just picked up the bodies and ran,” he said.

....“Tell me what was going through the minds of those pilots?” Selmo asked. “When they bombed an aid convoy, they must have known an ambulance would follow. Why did they wait to kill us? Why did they play this like a video game where you shoot everything that moves.”"


‘Why did they wait to kill us?': How the attack on the aid convoy near Aleppo unfolded

"The New York Times spoke to 20 local and international aid workers, rescuers and residents who either witnessed the attack or were involved in preparing the convoy, and reviewed dozens of videos, photographs, social media posts and records kept by aircraft spotters. Together, the interviews and other material indicate that there was a sustained, coordinated attack carried out by Russian or Syrian aircraft, probably both.

....“We saw fire, injured people, human parts, some people burning in their vehicles, the drivers,” Mr. Salmo recalled. Mr. Barakat was inside his pickup, injured by shrapnel, waving a hand for help. A video from a camera mounted on a rescuer’s helmet captured the scene. “There are still people injured back inside,” a voice says. ...Mr. Salmo explained later, “We had to leave Omar.”"


‘From Paradise to Hell’: How an Aid Convoy in Syria Was Blown Apart
 
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"However, there is a mounting body of evidence that makes it clear the Syrian regime and, in particular, the Russian military, hold responsibility for the atrocity."
This Is How Russia Bombed the U.N. Convoy

"Higgins said the response was fairly typical of pro-Kremlin social media commentators “whenever there's any evidence of something that reflects negatively on the Kremlin or Assad.”

“According to them every cluster bomb, barrel bomb, chemical weapon attack, and mass killing was staged by Syrian activists to fool the Western media,” he said."

Aleppo aid convoy attack: Russian bomb remains 'recovered from site'
 
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Ban Ki-moon establishes a "board of inquiry" into this month's massive attack on the Syrian humanitarian convoy.
http://bit.ly/2ddqZFM

"The UN said the attack is potentially a war crime and suspended all aid operations in the country after the bombing."
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon establishes inquiry to investigate attack on humanitarian aid convoy in Syria

Not that it'll matter. No red line crossed has made a difference up to this point so why should it change now? Assad and his allies can do whatever evil they want to the people there and it'll usually only barely result in a mildly-worded condemnation.
 
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Most of Aleppo is secure. It's all western propaganda because they got their ass- kicked in Syria and their Arab Spring morphed into WW3 in the region. Of course the Sunni''s will complain like they always do since they act like racists and think the Levant belongs to them and not to the native Roum and Syriacs.
 
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Most of Aleppo is secure.

Except for the parts that Assad is bombing to oblivion. Except for the parts he is starving in an attempt to get the civilians to kneel.


It's all western propaganda because they got their ass- kicked in Syria and their Arab Spring morphed into WW3 in the region. Of course the Sunni''s will complain like they always do since they act like racists and think the Levant belongs to them and not to the native Roum and Syriacs.

Yes, yes. All of the regime's atrocities are faked by people who spend millions of dollars and countless hours putting make-up on hundreds of thousands of civilians and have them play dead/injured. They also employ babies to pretend to breathe as if they're in distress in order to allege chemical weapons attacks. Those babies play along because it's all about that propaganda! Would expect no less from a conspiracy by Saudi Arabia or Qatar or Israel or the CIA to try to remove the ever-moral anti-imperialist Assad who would never dare commit genocide or ethnic cleansing.


...Anyone who says or supports something like you did after reading just the title of this thread about Russia and Assad bombing an aid convoy that killed 19 civilians and 12 aid workers really needs to reflect on the state of their humanity.
 
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I did not say it's all faked. The fact is the entire Arab spring now Arab winter was caused by western meddling.

There are now 30 factions fighting in the area, they are all militarized, meaning the west has armed everyone to the teeth, it's a world war. Everyone has their own interests and survival in mind and I wish we would have left everyone alone to govern their own affairs without external interference.
But the entire fiasco falls on the U.S. State department and NATO(and by extention the Anglo-hegemony and Europe ). It's their baby and they deserve ALL the blame. And the American people have figured out how full of it the psychopaths of the pentagon and CIA and their "allies" truly are .
 
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"The attack on the convoy, made up of Syrian Red Crescent trucks carrying UN-supplied food, was reported to have killed at least 12 people and destroyed 18 trucks laden with food intended for tens of thousands of people cut off by the war in a rural area west of Aleppo city.

Aid officials said it was hit from the air while unloading food at a warehouse in opposition controlled Urem al-Kubra. Early reports suggested most of the dead were Syrian Red Crescent drivers.

Stephen O’Brien, the UN’s emergency relief coordinator, said that the convoy had been clearly marked and its route had been provided to all parties to the conflict."


US blames Russia after UN aid convoy in Syria targeted by air attack

Of course the regime/allies deny this just like they denied everything from using chemical weapons to barrel bombs to cluster munitions.
Could that aid have ended up in ISIS hands? I would compare this attack to the USA's strike on the Syrian army just recently.
 
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I did not say it's all faked. The fact is the entire Arab spring now Arab winter was caused by western meddling.

So the people there were perfectly content and could not possibly have thought to peacefully protest against Assad's corrupt regime. They were just mindless idiots who did the bidding of western meddlers....they had absolutely no reason to be upset with the regime?

It was western powers that forced the regime to shoot at said protesters? It was western powers that forced the regime to be the culprits behind most of the sectarian massacres? It was western powers that told the regime to go to Sunni villages in order to individually slaughter inhabitants, including children? It was western powers that told Assad to use chemical weapons on civilians? To use barrel bombs on them? To bomb mosques and schools and aid convoys and marketplaces?

Western meddling has indeed often been worthy of condemnation but, unfortunately for Assad apologists, it cannot be blamed for all of the world's ills including Assad's & his direct allies' actions.

Everyone has their own interests and survival in mind and I wish we would have left everyone alone to govern their own affairs without external interference.

Does that apply to Russia, Hezbollah, Iran, Iraqi & Pakistani & Afghan militias as well? Because I agree. Had they not stepped in, Assad would've been toppled long ago. Very telling, isn't it, that he needs all of those people helping him? He also has the UN and the US favoring him through their actions.

Could that aid have ended up in ISIS hands? I would compare this attack to the USA's strike on the Syrian army just recently.

Impossible as ISIS has 0 presence in Aleppo. Furthermore, the only victims were humanitarian workers and civilians. This deliberate & evil attack is not at all comparable to the US's mistaken attack on combatants who are terrorizing the population and committing genocide. Unfortunately that was a mistake (nobody seems to have the spine to target them intentionally besides the rebels). This was deliberate given how Russia tracked the convoy with a drone for hours and how this attack went on for hours after. They waited for the rescue workers to show up after the initial strikes and continued striking.
 
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yes the protests were indeed western backed agitators, just like those color revolutions, just like the failed umbrella protests in Hong kong, just like the Maiden in Ukraine. Now do you condemn the western backed Saudi''s for slaughtering the Houthi''s in Yemen?
Secondly Assad would not have been toppled as half the population likes him, the half who are native indigenous not the new comers called sunnis. Russia has only been involved in Syria less than a year, the west has been arming "moderates" for 5 years now, even Nato has been operating in the region. Do you know that some rebel factions are trained by the pentagon and others by the CIA and those groups are also fighting each other? Then you have ISIS another western invention sometimes backed by the Turks sometimes not, then you have the Kurds fighting Isis, but being bombed by NATO member Turkey. Then you have the psychopathic Israelis who want Assad to go because they believe the devil they dont know (Isis and company) will be better than the devil they know(hezbollah).
 
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So the people there were perfectly content and could not possibly have thought to peacefully protest against Assad's corrupt regime. They were just mindless idiots who did the bidding of western meddlers....they had absolutely no reason to be upset with the regime?

It was western powers that forced the regime to shoot at said protesters? It was western powers that forced the regime to be the culprits behind most of the sectarian massacres? It was western powers that told the regime to go to Sunni villages in order to individually slaughter inhabitants, including children? It was western powers that told Assad to use chemical weapons on civilians? To use barrel bombs on them? To bomb mosques and schools and aid convoys and marketplaces?

Western meddling has indeed often been worthy of condemnation but, unfortunately for Assad apologists, it cannot be blamed for all of the world's ills including Assad's & his direct allies' actions.



Does that apply to Russia, Hezbollah, Iran, Iraqi & Pakistani & Afghan militias as well? Because I agree. Had they not stepped in, Assad would've been toppled long ago. Very telling, isn't it, that he needs all of those people helping him? He also has the UN and the US favoring him through their actions.



Impossible as ISIS has 0 presence in Aleppo. Furthermore, the only victims were humanitarian workers and civilians. This deliberate & evil attack is not at all comparable to the US's mistaken attack on combatants who are terrorizing the population and committing genocide. Unfortunately that was a mistake (nobody seems to have the spine to target them intentionally besides the rebels). This was deliberate given how Russia tracked the convoy with a drone for hours and how this attack went on for hours after. They waited for the rescue workers to show up after the initial strikes and continued striking.
 
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Already proven to have been bombed by U.S. forces. We are the only ones using bombs that do not make crators.
Hmmm, I haven't seen evidence of that. I suppose it could have been the same faction of the military that obliterated the SAA unit holding the Thardeh heights over the Deir Ezzor airport. But that's assuming that that attack was intentional, likely, but not proven.
I've figured the more likely culprit of the aid convoy attack was Nusra Front. They explicitly refused the casefire, refused to allow aid convoys and as a matter of survival, had to make sure the ceasefire was killed. If the deal had been carried out to its conclusion, the US would have joined the pro Syrian coalition in destroying Nusra.
And the rebels have no love for the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, since they've essentially been acting as a branch of the government throughout the war. The crocodile tears being shed for the Red Crescent are funny, for the bad acting, but at the same time cruel and sickening.
 
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yes the protests were indeed western backed agitators

1.) A former CIA agent is quoted by the ACLU in a 2005 report as saying that if you wanted someone to be tortured, you send them to Syria. Why would the west want to disrupt the status quo? They don't want more religious Sunni Muslims in government as Algeria (early '90's), Palestine ('06), and Egypt ('13) have shown. Syria is no different even if it means letting the Sunnis be killed in a genocide.

2.) Obama sure is doing a horrendous job opposing the genocidal regime and supporting the rebels if that's what you think he's been trying to do. He set a red line in Syria and barely even blinked when Assad crossed it. As a country that ratified the genocide convention, we should have responded to the genocide. Yet we haven't. Not only does he place more onus on the rebels, the only ones he has intentionally targeted in Syria have been ISIS (for good reason) and the rebels (for terrible reasons) even though the regime is behind the most death (96% of civilian deaths) and destruction in Syria.

Obama even made a "ceasefire" deal with Russia that it would coordinate strikes on the rebels with it (but the rebels have to stop any advancements). Like....what?

The regime/allies have done everything wrong from targeting aid convoys; raping; torturing; dropping barrel bombs, cluster munitions, chemical weapons (like sarin and chlorine, the latter of which is still used) on civilian populations, napalm and incendiary weapons, intentionally targeting them (in masjids, refugee camps, schools, marketplaces, ambulances, hospitals, residential areas); starving civilians to the extent that more than 700 have died because of his sieges; committing sectarian massacres even if it means slitting the throats of Sunni children one by one; and ethnically cleansing areas.

This genocide is possibly the most well-documented in real-time yet we still have people like you defending it.

3.) The majority of Sunni Syrians are fighting for their freedom and justice. If that ever falls in line with what the west wants, then so be it and the more the merrier. Why should they sacrifice their dignity because some alt leftists think that anything America is bad?

Secondly Assad would not have been toppled as half the population likes him,

lol, that explains why he needs Russia, Iran, Hezbollah (Lebanon), and Iraqi, Pakistani, and Afghan militias to directly fight for him (and comprise most of his "Syrian Arab" army). His side has vastly superior weapons and air power (his own and Russia which greatly strengthened him) and an unlimited supply of Shia foreign fighters and still cannot defeat the opposition. He has used chemical weapons, starvation, and has pummeled Sunni areas to the ground, and still he has not won after 5 years.

the half who are native indigenous not the new comers called sunnis.

You're confused if you call the Lebanese, Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis, and Iraqis there to keep Assad propped up Sunnis. They're actually Shias and they do most of the fighting on the ground on behalf of Assad.

Russia has only been involved in Syria less than a year, the west has been arming "moderates" for 5 years

Russia has been supplying the "secularist" "anti-imperialist" "moral" "protector of minorities" genocidal dictator before October 2015. It offered an alternative to punishing Assad after he crossed the red line by saying he'll get rid of his chemical weapons (surprise, he's still using them). Russia blocked the UN from moving Syria to the ICC in 2014. What's he so afraid of, if Assad (and Russia) are as innocent as you claim. Clearly Russia does not care about the peace process what with its indiscriminate bombings of civilians, which was its excuse before.
 
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The US won't go to war because it can't. So it fights it through proxy. Where do you think all these rebel factions came from? Who do you think arms them? The Americans want regime change at the same time make everyone back home think we want to fight terrorism. So we label some as moderate rebels etc.

You don't expect American boys to go there do you? Take an unscientific poll and go ask 18-25 year old American kids if they are willing to stop hanging out at some fancy night spot, leave their girlfriends put their cars in storage to go fight a war with Russia and China. They will stick their middle finger at you. So aside from the demented neo-cons and war hawks who would love such a war, fortunately they are stuck with drones and training terrorists to do their dirty work.
And I'm calling the Sunni''s the terrorists who do not belong in Syria. They are not natives, the natives are the Roum and Syriac and alawhites, the Sunni's are the only ones that created this mess, the same way they are slaughtering the houthis in Yemen
 
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