Random Thoughts , Religious or Otherwise

[Rhamiel]

random thought
thinking about the arm chair pseudointellectual who has a disdain for religion even though he does not understand it
read this article a while ago
pretty interesting
http://thefederalist.com/2013/12/24/white-trash-religion-nutshell-proud-ignorant-messy-duck-dynasty/

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/mother-angelica-ewtn/#.Vw1vNc5OLIU

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

a disdain for religion

religion?
conservative Catholicism you mean
I read a bit of that liberal "white trash" hate mail/link. It is pretty disturbing to think someone thinks like that.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Of course this website (Most Holy Family Monastery)hates liberals too though.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

The catholic priests I've admired have never talked about how their catholic faith was superior or "the best" or "the only way" to the Lord, even if they might think it deep down. (which I suspect they don't anyway) The ones who embrace all people of the world, as children of God, who emphasised unity, were the ones I took notice of.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Buddhism is seen by some (example Mother A) as the anti-Christ. Yet Buddhists rarely demonise other faiths, other religions. Buddhism really promotes peace.

 

[Rhamiel]

religion?
conservative Catholicism you mean
I read a bit of that liberal "white trash" hate mail/link. It is pretty disturbing to think someone thinks like that.

no, I was talking about people who show disdain for religion in general

why do you think the link I shared was "hate mail"
what did you find disturbing?
seemed pretty on the spot about the shallowness of modern folk who are pretty apathetic about religion

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

sorry rhamiel
thought you were saying I was the armchair pseudo-intellectual, which is actually close to the truth

 

[Rhamiel]

sorry rhamiel
thought you were saying I was the armchair pseudo-intellectual, which is actually close to the truth

I did not mean for it to seem that way, this thread is for random thoughts, so my first post was not in reference to you
just about people in general

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

all liberals are different but conservatives are all the same?
is that right?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I find that some conservatives tend to respond like a textbook. Afraid to think for themselves lest they be poisoned by secularism?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Am I a catholic liberal or just a secular narcissist?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

What I've noticed is that if you claim to be a conservative catholic, you can share in the authority of the catholic church. So that would be attractive to people who align themselves with conservatism. You can act like an umpire or referee and blow your whistle " uhu no, you can't do that. It's against Catholic doctrine." So they do become like policemen, traffic cops . Its a role they seem to enjoy. Not one I'm attracted to.

 

[Rhamiel]

all liberals are different but conservatives are all the same?
is that right?

no
there are all kinds of different conservatives

there are some who are more Libertarian, there are some who focus more economic issues, there are those (mostly Evangelicals) who are part of the 'Religious Right',
there are Neo-Cons who were Democrats but became Republicans when the Dems went more to the Left (Neo-Cons are not opposed to Big Government when it comes to 'law and order' issues, they are for involvement in other countries and are more moderate on Economic issues)

those are just the kinds of conservatives in the USA
we can find other groups, like Jacobites or Distributionists
there is also the new "Alt-Right" which is slightly Fascist

in the USA, we have a winner take all system
like in a Parliamentary system, if you get 10% of the vote, you get 10% of the Parliament
here if you are running for congress and your party gets 10% of the vote in a region, you get nothing

so in Italy and France you can have a decent party with only 10%
but here you have to get 51%
so it leads to all kinds of odd groups working together, both the Democrat and Republican parties are just huge coalitions made up of subgroups who do not always share the same interests

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

no that's right. I can see splits among catholic conservatives here such as SSPX and so on.

 

[Rhamiel]

What I've noticed is that if you claim to be a conservative catholic, you can share in the authority of the catholic church. So that would be attractive to people who align themselves with conservatism. You can act like an umpire or referee and blow your whistle " uhu no, you can't do that. It's against Catholic doctrine." So they do become like policemen, traffic cops . Its a role they seem to enjoy. Not one I'm attracted to.

you have mentioned that you drifted away from Church when you were in your teens
and that in Catholic school the focus was more on rote memorization instead of a deeper understanding of the faith

I would think you would be grateful to people who understand the Catholic Faith better then you and could help explain it to you

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I would think you would be grateful to people who understand the Catholic Faith better then you and could help explain it to you

if it was done out of love, no problem

 

[Rhamiel]

yes
love needs to lead in all things
very good point

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Can I just say that sometimes I get the impression, that a conservative poster on here may use their knowledge of doctrine and theology, not to defend Catholicism but to promote their own profile? I can't prove that of course but like a childish "nya, nya nya, I know better than you" kind of post. If we build a better trust here between conservative and liberal ...? Oh I am sounding way too idealistic now, aren't I...

 

[Martinius]

Can I just say that sometimes I get the impression, that a conservative poster on here may use their knowledge of doctrine and theology, not to defend Catholicism but to promote their own profile? I can't prove that of course but like a childish "nya, nya nya, I know better than you" kind of post. If we build a better trust here between conservative and liberal ...? Oh I am sounding way too idealistic now, aren't I...

Speaking of which, I just had a revelation, a revelation about something that has been eating at me for awhile. I figured out that our friend Benny is really a guy in the news, at least in America. Benny is none other than...(drum roll)...Curt Schilling! Paul, if you are unfamiliar with Curt, here is a link.
http://www.theonion.com/article/curt-schilling-quietly-relieved-he-no-longer-needs-52790

Now, if I am mistaken then I apologize, and will revert to my original thought that Benny is one of the guys from Most Holy Family Monastery.