prideful christians

[AlasBabylon]

Jesus asked for forgiveness from His Father to be shown to the ones who murdered Him, how does that line up with what your saying?

Jesus forgave the Roman soldiers who, being clueless pagans,
did not know that they were crucifying Israel's Messiah, the
God of Israel incarnate.

The unbelieving jews... many of whom were not even Israelites,
but Edomites, like the Herods, knew exactly what they were doing.
The blood guilt of Jesus was upon them and their descendants.


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[Sadalmelik]

you didnt answer my other question,

personal enemies.....Gods enemies

what happens when the person in question is both? which actually to me, would be a vast majority of the time......the way i see it, according to you, ones response would be wrong irregardless of what one did.

 

[Sadalmelik]

Jesus forgave the Roman soldiers who, being clueless pagans,
did not know that they were crucifying Israel's Messiah, the
God of Israel incarnate.

The unbelieving jews... many of whom were not even Israelites,
but Edomites, like the Herods, knew exactly what they were doing.
The blood guilt of Jesus was upon them and their descendants.


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and thats not exactly true, some of the soldiers did indeed know who He was, and believed Him to be who He said He was.

 

[AlasBabylon]

and thats not exactly true, some of the soldiers did indeed know who He was, and believed Him to be who He said He was.

The Romans came to know Jesus because they were more Israelite than the
unbelieving jews, who were descendants of Edomites who lost a war with
Israel in the 2nd century BC and were forced to "convert."

The first city founded on Christianity, Constantinople, was a Roman city
which was built by and named after Roman Emperor Constantine and
became the capital of the first Christian empire, the Eastern Roman Empire,
Byzantium.

To understand many of the things happening in the New Testament, it is
important to know the players. Not all those called, "jews", at that time
were Israelites. Like the Herods, many of the "jews" were Edomites, who
were historical enemies of Israel. There is an historical dynamic happening
in the New Testament between the lines.

Jesus said He was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel... and that His
sheep know Him and follow Him... but to other "jews" Jesus said they
did not believe because they were not His sheep [ie, not Israel, which
means they were Edomites.] This also explains the two verses in the
book of Revelation that speak of those who say they are "jews" but
are the synagogue of satan.



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