Origin of the Moon

[Heissonear]

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Pure imagination in the guise of science.

The mass of pyrolite produced during that stage is significantly smaller than the mass of the Bulk Silicate Earth. Mass balance calculations then yield the composition of the proto-core and the proto-mantle prior to the giant impact. We obtain that the core of the proto-Earth was almost devoid of oxygen, hence formed under lower pressure and temperature conditions, in agreement with an early differentiation of planetesimals in the early solar system.

"The mass of pyrolite produced during that stage is significantly smaller" ???? .Pure guesstimation.


"Mass balance calculations" ???? . They have no information or numbers to even make a calculation.


"Prior to the impact" ???? . They had mass balance before an impact? How do they dream, I mean know that a giant impact occured at this point of "their formulated process"?


"In agreement with early differentiation of planetesimals" ???? .In full agreement I'm sure, and did you stop and get milk on the way home after dreaming at work?


You have to watch these Naturalists, they will pull one or two on you if you are not careful.


What jealousy? Wake up.


The link to this quote is listed in an earlier post.
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[TheBeardedDude]

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The scientists who walk in Scientism present there hypothesis of things in the past as if there are real and really happened. However, it is pure conjecture, not reality.

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You really like to hear yourself preach, then complain when people don't address your OP, then ignore it when they do.

You need to change that title of yours to "pretends to be a scientist, actually a preacher"

 

[Heissonear]

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These reputable scientists sure do live by faith!

We obtain that the core of the proto-Earth was almost devoid of oxygen, hence formed under lower pressure and temperature conditions, in agreement with ......

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[TLK Valentine]

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People who walk in Scientism present their religious views of how the Earth and Moon formed and evolved over time. The below is another example of conjecture. With little evidence they state big things.

Did I mention that they like to blatantly proselytize?

Big thing like the existence of a magical spiritual realm?

I get to see any evidence for that today, Heiss?

What jealousy? Wake up.

Scientists get listened to and respected -- you don't.

Your bitterness is showing.

 

[dad]

Scientists get listened to and respected -- you don't.
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Less and less outside the cult actually. In fact, they are disrespected by millions and millions in so many ways. Like a commercial yapping on about some boring inbred nonsense that they seem to think will be swallowed if repeated enough, and agreed with by other cult followers!

 

[TLK Valentine]

Less and less outside the cult actually. In fact, they are disrespected by millions and millions in so many ways. Like a commercial yapping on about some boring inbred nonsense that they seem to think will be swallowed if repeated enough, and agreed with by other cult followers!

If you say so -- who am I to wreck your fantasy?

 

[TheBeardedDude]

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These reputable scientists sure do live by faith!





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So faith is an admittedly weak position to have? You are kind of arguing against yourself here, moron.

 

[Heissonear]

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Sounds like science. Looks like science. And before all is promoted as science.

We obtain that the core of the proto-Earth was almost devoid of oxygen, hence formed under lower pressure and temperature conditions, in agreement with an early differentiation of planetesimals in the early solar system.

But is just academic guesstimations of events that never happened.

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[TLK Valentine]

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Sounds like science. Looks like science. And before all is promoted as science.





But is just academic guesstimations of events that never happened.

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So -- no evidence of the spiritual realm today, either?

 

[Heissonear]

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The topic is Scientism: the conjecture, imagination and guesstimations by godless scientific researchers towards the origin of celestial bodies.

It is interesting to present how dust collected and aggregated until planetesimals that produced massive collisions occured, but in such a process "oxygen deficient" crystalline rock collections "somehow" became the core of the earth - but not too much"oxygen deficient material" less earth would never have an atmosphere which contained "oxygen".

We obtain that the core of the proto-Earth was almost devoid of oxygen, hence formed under lower pressure and temperature conditions, in agreement with an early differentiation of planetesimals in the early solar system.

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[dad]

So -- no evidence of the spiritual realm today, either?

Not unless you can read, or have someone read history to you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Not unless you can read, or have someone read history to you.

I said "evidence," not "mythology." Have someone Google the difference for you.

 

[pgp_protector]

I said "evidence," not "mythology." Have someone Google the difference for you.

Do you honestly believe that would do any good ?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Do you honestly believe that would do any good ?

Couldn't hurt.

 

[dad]

I said "evidence," not "mythology." Have someone Google the difference for you.

The record man has is all the evidence there is. Even the mythology is evidence of some basic fundamental realities. For example, the Sumers claimed long lifespans and spirit beings. While they may have it less than correct, some of their stories agree in some areas with other records! There is a commonality that one can detect in some basic areas that forms a thread, weaving together the records.

You cannot deny spirits existed, and they are in every major record of antiquity, as well as the bible. Whether some of them were bad spirits, and some battles and events in pagan records of the spirits may be embellished, or unverifiable, one cannot wave off all the records of man.

Neither can you prove or disprove spirits now, in this present time and state, where the physical is separated from the spiritual, and all science resides in and deals with only the physical!

All you may say, is that 'we cannot observe God or spirits in our little sphere' --that says sweet buggar all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The record man has is all the evidence there is. Even the mythology is evidence of some basic fundamental realities. For example, the Sumers claimed long lifespans and spirit beings. While they may have it less than correct, some of their stories agree in some areas with other records! There is a commonality that one can detect in some basic areas that forms a thread, weaving together the records.

You cannot deny spirits existed, and they are in every major record of antiquity, as well as the bible. Whether some of them were bad spirits, and some battles and events in pagan records of the spirits may be embellished, or unverifiable, one cannot wave off all the records of man.

Neither can you prove or disprove spirits now, in this present time and state, where the physical is separated from the spiritual, and all science resides in and deals with only the physical!

All you may say, is that 'we cannot observe God or spirits in our little sphere' --that says sweet buggar all.

Of course we can deny that spirits exist. We know There are many myths in antiquity that you have no problem denying, why do you believe that nonsense?

There is no reliable evidence that spirits exist. Therefore there is no valid reason to believe they exist.

 

[dad]

Of course we can deny that spirits exist.

No, you are not qualified! Not to say one way or the other by science. Obviously. You may admit to being unaware of them. Whoopee do.

We know There are many myths in antiquity that you have no problem denying, why do you believe that nonsense?

?? The only reliable record is God's. But other records do have some merit in some areas sometimes. You may not just merrily wave all thing away! This is news??

There is no reliable evidence that spirits exist.

False. Jesus came. Even before that the angels and demons were well known.

Therefore there is no valid reason to believe they exist.

Gong! You do not get to dictate what 'valid' is! Especially since you have no science that can speak to the issue of spirits one way OR the other! Pipe down.

 

[Heissonear]

Of course we can deny that spirits exist. We know There are many myths in antiquity that you have no problem denying, why do you believe that nonsense?

There is no reliable evidence that spirits exist. Therefore there is no valid reason to believe they exist.

Boy are you going to be surprised when you finally learn and see what invisibly is going on.

Many Naturalist rail Christians about the discovery of the unseen world of bacteria. This, friend, was a physical shadow in the Designers work. There is good and bad invisible life in our midst, much more than at one time could be imagined.

Yea, that was on for understanding the physical world we live in.

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[Heissonear]

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Below is another paper presenting current research and understanding about the origin of the Moon.

Yet another "celestial impact" is presented to account for the crystalline differences found on the Moon, particularly rock bodies with incompatible elements compositions.

Also presented is "magma fractionation" estimates for mineral constituents observed from Lunar rocks.

This is a presentation of conjecture based on incomplete isotope data and academic imagination. In other words a nice scientific story that never happened.

A Second Lunar Magma Ocean?

M ARION G RANGE * AND A LEXANDER N EMCHIN .

Curtin University, Department of Applied Geology, GPO box U1987, WA 6845, Perth, Australia.
*(correspondence: m.grange@curtin.edu.au)

The Lunar Magma Ocean (LMO) model is one of the key concepts in the current understanding of lunar evolution. It is used to explain a range of geological, mineralogical and chemical characteristics of the Moon, such as the presence of anorthositic crust, a reservoir enriched in incompatible elements and mare basalts.

The LMO model suggests that the lunar crust, made up of Ferroan-Anorthosite (FAN), formed by segregation and floatation of plagioclase from the magma ocean, after ~75% of the initial liquid has crystallised as mafic cumulates. After ~95% solidification, the remaining liquid is enriched in incompatible elements (e.g. K, REE, P, U, Th, Zr…) and constitutes the KREEP reservoir. Although this reservoir has never been sampled as such, its existence is indicated by incompatible elements enrichment in some plutonic rocks, which are interpreted to be emplaced into the FAN crust. These rocks are also enriched in Mg and are referred to as Mg-suite. The presence of a KREEP component in this suite and the associated enrichment in incompatible elements also results in a widespread crystallisation of zircon in these rocks.

Very specific sequence of crystallisation predicted by the LMO model demands particular timing relationships between FAN, KREEP reservoir and Mg-suite rocks. However, absolute dating of FAN and Mg-suite samples reveals a significant overlap in ages that is inconsistent with the LMO model. In particular, the contradiction is highlighted by the recently obtained precise ages of (i) the oldest lunar zircon at 4417 ± 6 Ma [1], which must represent the youngest possible limit for the formation of KREEP reservoir and (ii) a sample of FAN at 4360 ± 3 Ma [2], which suggests the oldest limit for the lunar crust crystallisation.

The only way to resolve the controversy posed by chronological data is to accept the possibility of a second magma ocean on the Moon at ~4360 Ma, resulting from a massive impact and probably restricted to the near site of the Moon.

[1] Nemchin et al. (2009) Nature Geosc. 2, 133-136. [2] Borg et al. (2011), Nature 477, 70-73..

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[Heissonear]

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Some don't think twice when receiving what godless researchers publish. Hook, line and sinker.



A Second Lunar Magma Ocean?

M ARION G RANGE * AND A LEXANDER N EMCHIN .

The Lunar Magma Ocean (LMO) model is one of the key concepts in the current understanding of lunar evolution. It is used to explain ............

The LMO model suggests that the lunar crust .............. formed by segregation and floatation of plagioclase from the magma ocean, after ~75% of the initial liquid has crystallised as mafic cumulates. After ~95% solidification, the remaining liquid is enriched in incompatible elements ............................

Very specific sequence of ...................................

The only way to resolve the controversy posed ........ is to accept the possibility of a second magma ocean on the Moon at ~4360 Ma, resulting from a massive impact .......................................

[1] Nemchin et al. (2009) Nature Geosc. 2, 133-136. [2] Borg et al. (2011), Nature 477, 70-73..

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