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Why was Christianity not the first religion?
Christianity is not religion per say, its a real relationship with the one true and living God.
Esssssooo!! (that's what my students say when something is just RIGHT) The essence of Christianity is man right with God. At the beginning, when man was created, he was right with God and had a real relationship with Him. Now if you are looking at the religion of Christianity - Jesus dying on the cross, being resurrected, the church being born, etc. - it took generations to set the stage for that, as someone else also said.
If you were the loving creator of life, what is the purpose of allowing hundreds of millions of people to believe in false religions before yours?
It is not really for us to question why God does things the way he does them. I have a theory.... when Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven, they came here, where they knew that God was going to put humans, and they began to set all kinds of traps for humans. God put humans here, in a divinely protected area that we call Eden. When man was cast out of Eden, it wasn't only that they were on their own - it was that there would be all kinds of temptations and dangers on the outside. But of course God knew that too, and had put man here knowing it all, because man was his plan for the redemption of the planet through the defeat of the realm of evil. That is my theory in a nutshell.
So to answer your question directly, God did reveal himself to us from the beginning. But we walked away from him. So he chose to reveal himself to and through the nation of Israel, and through this people he brought forth his Son, the Messiah, to bear the sins of mankind and suffer condemnation in our place.
:amen:
The gospel isn't a set of timeless set of beliefs. It's something God has done.
:amen:
Does this basically come down to an interpretation of the Bible? Because if you look at history, many religions predate Judaism.
It comes down to actually believing that what the Bible says is true to the exclusion of all other religions and theories of why we are here. Our God is God, and there is no other God, regardless of when Judaism came into being. God is not dependent upon the religion of Judaism to exist.
 
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It comes down to actually believing that what the Bible says is true to the exclusion of all other religions and theories of why we are here. Our God is God, and there is no other God, regardless of when Judaism came into being. God is not dependent upon the religion of Judaism to exist.

But Judaism is when God chose to reveal himself to his creation. Which is why I initially asked why he didn't reveal himself before any other religion was revealed to people?
 
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God has revealed himself all along. Judaism is when God chose to give his people a set of laws at Mount Sinai. If you date Judaism with Noah (I'm not sure why), then at that time there was only one family who ALL worshiped God. The people who did not were wiped out in the flood. If you date Judaism with the generations before Noah, as I said before, my theory is that the fallen angels set traps for people - planted "evidence" of other gods - and I think there was a certain amount of just plain rebellion that went on - I don't like this God who kicked us out of Eden; let's ignore him and come up with our own ideas. We humans are good at that, unfortunately.

See the scripture that Nails74 quoted above.
 
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But Judaism is when God chose to reveal himself to his creation. Which is why I initially asked why he didn't reveal himself before any other religion was revealed to people?

Did not God reveal Himself to Adam and Eve? Did He not walk with them in the garden? God has always been and people knew Him from the very beginning. But, just as the Bible states, the majority would and still is, a majority who reject Him and so it is these that separated and created new gods to worship. God was before all religions. Christianity, for me, is just a continued personal relationship with Him that began at His creation and has been on a specific pathway to salvation through Jesus Christ. All those who were to know the one true God, did, have and always will. God will not allow anyone to go thirsty for the knowledge of Him and if there are any who have rejected Him, it is of their own free will and the fact that any could choose against Him, dare even blaspheming Him and worshiping gods they 'made', proves this freedom.

When God tells us:

Romans 11:25
(NIV1984)
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.


This sounds pretty much like there is a specific number God is waiting for and so time lingers on until the number is reached. Because the majority of mankind wants nothing to do with Him, it takes a very long time to come to this number in our space and time and also allows all those who would choose for Him to do so. It also allows all prophecy to be fulfilled within God's perfect plan. Some believe that the number is akin to the number of angels who revolted with Satan and that they are being replaced. The Bible only states 'one third' but the specific number is not known to us, but we can gather that it is pretty large. Either way, when Jesus comes, this will cement the decisions of all and we can know that God's plan has come full circle. Then God will again walk with His people on a newly created earth and within a new heavenly realm with Jesus Christ as their King.

Revelation 21:1-4
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21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

All those who choose to be with God will and the blood of Jesus Christ has made this possible; that He humbled Himself unto humanity in order to take on the penalty of death, one as we can see is well-deserved within the evils of society throughout mankind's history. This is love people! This is God forgiving all that resides secretly within our hearts and minds though we try to hide it, revealing only that facade of 'good' to others. Many will try to persuade themselves that they are good enough to stand before their creator, GOD, but deep down they know they are not; and most have hardened their hearts so much so that they believe this lie and spit on God and all that He represents. And you know what? He still loves you and wishes none to perish and Jesus died so that even these thoughts can be wiped clean and for ALL to become a new creature, born again. We do have a second chance, but it is here and now, before your last breathe. But, do not tarry too long for none of us knows when our last breathe will come...it could be today. And so we say to you:


2 Corinthians 5:20
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20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.
 
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But Judaism is when God chose to reveal himself to his creation. Which is why I initially asked why he didn't reveal himself before any other religion was revealed to people?

It's certainly possible that at Ur, when God called Abram, this was the first time He revealed Himself to the world. Or it's simply the only thing that has been revealed to us.

I don't think we can say He didn't otherwise, or that He did otherwise. We can't say one way or the other.

For early Christians, for example St. Justin Martyr, there was some belief that God had made Himself known--if only in shadow--to the Pagans. St. Justin speaks of men such as Socrates as knowing the Logos, at least in part, the same Logos who became flesh and dwelt among us uniquely in and as Jesus Christ.

C.S. Lewis argued that much of the ancient myths, particularly concerning dying-rising gods, constituted human anticipation for the full reality of God's invasion into our world by the Incarnation.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Why was Christianity not the first religion?

If you were the loving creator of life, what is the purpose of allowing hundreds of millions of people to believe in false religions before yours?
I believe Christianity is the obediance to the teaching of Christ to love others. This was not an original or new message. From the very beginning of time human beings knew what loving others was and that it was the right thing to do. We are created with that information. The people listening to the parable of the Good Samaritan were not receiving new information. They already knew helping someone is need is what we should do. Jesus was simply confirming for them what they already knew. A human being is in the image of God I think in that they are capable of chosing to love others and knows that loving others is the right thing to do.
 
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Did not God reveal Himself to Adam and Eve? Did He not walk with them in the garden? God has always been and people knew Him from the very beginning. But, just as the Bible states, the majority would and still is, a majority who reject Him and so it is these that separated and created new gods to worship. God was before all religions. Christianity, for me, is just a continued personal relationship with Him that began at His creation and has been on a specific pathway to salvation through Jesus Christ. All those who were to know the one true God, did, have and always will. God will not allow anyone to go thirsty for the knowledge of Him and if there are any who have rejected Him, it is of their own free will and the fact that any could choose against Him, dare even blaspheming Him and worshiping gods they 'made', proves this freedom.

When God tells us:




This sounds pretty much like there is a specific number God is waiting for and so time lingers on until the number is reached. Because the majority of mankind wants nothing to do with Him, it takes a very long time to come to this number in our space and time and also allows all those who would choose for Him to do so. It also allows all prophecy to be fulfilled within God's perfect plan. Some believe that the number is akin to the number of angels who revolted with Satan and that they are being replaced. The Bible only states 'one third' but the specific number is not known to us, but we can gather that it is pretty large. Either way, when Jesus comes, this will cement the decisions of all and we can know that God's plan has come full circle. Then God will again walk with His people on a newly created earth and within a new heavenly realm with Jesus Christ as their King.



All those who choose to be with God will and the blood of Jesus Christ has made this possible; that He humbled Himself unto humanity in order to take on the penalty of death, one as we can see is well-deserved within the evils of society throughout mankind's history. This is love people! This is God forgiving all that resides secretly within our hearts and minds though we try to hide it, revealing only that facade of 'good' to others. Many will try to persuade themselves that they are good enough to stand before their creator, GOD, but deep down they know they are not; and most have hardened their hearts so much so that they believe this lie and spit on God and all that He represents. And you know what? He still loves you and wishes none to perish and Jesus died so that even these thoughts can be wiped clean and for ALL to become a new creature, born again. We do have a second chance, but it is here and now, before your last breathe. But, do not tarry too long for none of us knows when our last breathe will come...it could be today. And so we say to you:

:clap::amen:Amen my beloved Sister. Amen:amen::clap:
 
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Question: "Why did God send Jesus when He did? Why not earlier? Why not later?"

Answer:
“But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law” (Galatians 4:4). This verse declares that God the Father sent His Son when “the time had fully come.” There were many things occurring at the time of the first century that, at least by human reasoning, seem to make it ideal for Christ to come then.

1) There was a great anticipation among the Jews of that time that the Messiah would come. The Roman rule over Israel made the Jews hungry for the Messiah’s coming.

2) Rome had unified much of the world under its government, giving a sense of unity to the various lands. Also, because the empire was relatively peaceful, travel was possible, allowing the early Christians to spread the gospel. Such freedom to travel would have been impossible in other eras.

3) While Rome had conquered militarily, Greece had conquered culturally. A “common” form of the Greek language (different from classical Greek) was the trade language and was spoken throughout the empire, making it possible to communicate the gospel to many different people groups through one common language.

4) The fact that the many false idols had failed to give them victory over the Roman conquerors caused many to abandon the worship of those idols. At the same time, in the more “cultured” cities, the Greek philosophy and science of the time left others spiritually empty in the same way that the atheism of communist governments leaves a spiritual void today.

5) The mystery religions of the time emphasized a savior-god and required worshipers to offer bloody sacrifices, thus making the gospel of Christ which involved one ultimate sacrifice believable to them. The Greeks also believed in the immortality of the soul (but not of the body).

6) The Roman army recruited soldiers from among the provinces, introducing these men to Roman culture and to ideas (such as the gospel) that had not reached those outlying provinces yet. The earliest introduction of the gospel to Britain was the result of the efforts of Christian soldiers stationed there.

The above statements are based on men looking at that time and speculating about why that particular point in history was a good time for Christ to come. But we understand that God’s ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8), and these may or may not have been some reasons for why He chose that particular time to send His Son. From the context of Galatians 3 and 4, it is evident that God sought to lay a foundation through the Jewish Law that would prepare for the coming of the Messiah. The Law was meant to help people understand the depth of their sinfulness (in that they were incapable of keeping the Law) so that they might more readily accept the cure for that sin through Jesus the Messiah (Galatians 3:22-23; Romans 3:19-20). The Law was also “put in charge” (Galatians 3:24) to lead people to Jesus as the Messiah. It did this through its many prophecies concerning the Messiah which Jesus fulfilled. Add to this the sacrificial system that pointed to the need for a sacrifice for sin as well as its own inadequacy (with each sacrifice always requiring later additional ones). Old Testament history also painted pictures of the person and work of Christ through several events and religious feasts (such as the willingness of Abraham to offer up Isaac, or the details of the Passover during the exodus from Egypt, etc.).

Finally, Christ came when He did in fulfillment of specific prophecy. Daniel 9:24-27 speaks of the “seventy weeks” or the seventy “sevens.” From the context, these “weeks” or “sevens” refer to groups of seven years, not seven days. We can examine history and line up the details of the first sixty-nine weeks (the seventieth week will take place at a future point). The countdown of the seventy weeks begins with “the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem” (verse 25). This command was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus in 445 B.C. (see Nehemiah 2:5). After seven “sevens” plus 62 “sevens,” or 69 x 7 years, the prophecy states, “the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary” and that the “end will come like a flood” (meaning major destruction) (v. 26). Here we have an unmistakable reference to the Savior’s death on the cross. A century ago in his book The Coming Prince, Sir Robert Anderson gave detailed calculations of the sixty-nine weeks, using ‘prophetic years,’ allowing for leap years, errors in the calendar, the change from B.C. to A.D., etc., and figured that the sixty-nine weeks ended on the very day of Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem, five days before His death. Whether one uses this timetable or not, the point is that the timing of Christ’s incarnation ties in with this detailed prophecy recorded by Daniel over five hundred years beforehand.

The timing of Christ’s incarnation was such that the people of that time were prepared for His coming. The people of every century since then have more than sufficient evidence that Jesus was indeed the promised Messiah through His fulfillment of the Scriptures that pictured and prophesied His coming in great detail.
 
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