NAACP says: Oust Bush!

[charis]

What does compassion and forgiveness have to do with going into a cave of hungry wolves?

I don't see any hungry wolves around.
where do you see them?

 

[Billnew]

Bush going to the NAACP would be like Kerry or any Democrat going to the NRA meetings.(ok, the anti-gun dems) They have nothing to gain, and just aggrevation to lose.

Did I miss something? How has Bush hurt Afro-Americans?

I actually believe the NAACP hurt Afro Americans. Encouraging a people to depend on the government is holding the people back.
*Anyone who succeeds does so by making it happen, not by depending on government to do it.

No person should be disciminated against. No matter what race, creed, color, or gender. There should be no preferencial treatment or detremental treatment for a person because they are white, black, hispanic, oriental, or what ever other distinctions you can make.

 

[stray bullet]

um...
can you back this claim up?

You want me to dig up a transcript. Please don't tell me you think it was productive.

 

[stray bullet]

so who's lying here?

The NAACP is full of it.

 

[stray bullet]

I don't see any hungry wolves around.
where do you see them?

Are you suggesting the NAACP has no intention of bashing Bush?

 

[praying]

Bush going to the NAACP would be like Kerry or any Democrat going to the NRA meetings.(ok, the anti-gun dems) They have nothing to gain, and just aggrevation to lose.

Did I miss something? How has Bush hurt Afro-Americans?

I actually believe the NAACP hurt Afro Americans. Encouraging a people to depend on the government is holding the people back.
*Anyone who succeeds does so by making it happen, not by depending on government to do it.

No person should be disciminated against. No matter what race, creed, color, or gender. There should be no preferencial treatment or detremental treatment for a person because they are white, black, hispanic, oriental, or what ever other distinctions you can make.

the NAACP does not encourage people to depend on the government you are misinformed.

 

[charis]

You want me to dig up a transcript. Please don't tell me you think it was productive.

well you made a claim. I'd certainly like to see you back it up

 

[charis]

Are you suggesting the NAACP has no intention of bashing Bush?

um..
why don't you back up your claim?

 

[charis]

The NAACP is full of it.

full of what?

 

[stray bullet]

um..
why don't you back up your claim?

Did you just ask me to back up my claim, then 30 seconds later post me asking why I didn't back it up?

I was totally lying, Bush had a very productive discussion with the NAACP. They thought it was so productive that 4 years later they said he was 'trying to bring back the confederacy' and wants to 'raise the swatiska of the confederate flag'.

I'm not even going to bother to dig up an article on it. If you honestly saw it and believe they had a productive meeting, no article is going to convince you others.

It is pretty obvious you are trying to 'stump' me, as if if I didn't post an article, it would somehow prove the NAACP and Bush had a productive meeting.

Do you really believe they did, honestly?

 

[stray bullet]

um..
why don't you back up your claim?

Answer me this and I might post an article-
Do you think the NAACP has no intention of bashing Bush?

 

[stray bullet]

full of what?

What do you think they are full of? Are you honestly not familar with the expression?

 

[HumbleMan]

If I were president, and I'd campaigned on being a uniter, not a divider, and I'd accepted my first nomination at a convention that boasted it's "big tent" philosophy, why would I not speak to an organization that represents a large voting bloc? Why would I act like they were invisible? Why wouldn't I at least put my agenda out there and actually listen to the feedback, and then decide whether they had valid points or not?

The NAACP is not the end all, be all group. Neither is the RNC, the DNC, the NRA, La Raza, LULAC, CCC, or any other politically motivated organization. Every organization has it's platform, but they don't all share one mind (although the way the RNC leadership is acting lately, I think they would like to.)

I don't believe the president is racist. Ignorant, maybe. Given bad advice by bad people, definitely.

Let me pose a double question for you, and I want honest, thought out answers, not knee jerk, circular rhetoric.

What has GWB done to bring people to a closer understanding of other cultures and backgrounds?

What has the NAACP done regarding the same?

 

[BlessedMan]

What has GWB done to bring people to a closer understanding of other cultures and backgrounds?

What has the NAACP done regarding the same?

Do you honestly think it is the roll of the President of the greatest nation in the world to be responsible for "bringing people to a closer understanding of other cultures and backgrounds?"

I'd rather he'd be the commander and chief and worry about National Security and our economy. Let us that are part of churches and community organizations (i.e.the NAACP) work on getting along with each other.

 

[HumbleMan]

Do you honestly think it is the roll of the President of the greatest nation in the world to be responsible for "bringing people to a closer understanding of other cultures and backgrounds?".

It is when a prominent part of his campaign was to unite people.

I'd rather he'd be the commander and chief and worry about National Security and our economy. Let us that are part of churches and community organizations (i.e.the NAACP) work on getting along with each other.

OK. What has your church done in regards to the above questions?

What do you think of GWB's faith based initiatives? Will they work? or are they a money pit for more of his friends/fundraisers?

BTW, as top policy maker of the country, GWB does have a role in setting the public social agenda of the nation. A good example would be his call for the federal amendment to classify a marriage as one woman, one man.

 

[SuzQ]

I very much respect Mr. Mfume - he's a wonderful motivator of the African-American community. However, the only reason Mr. Mfume is so upset & is doing this is because Bush turned down an invitation to speak at their annual dinner. This was the fourth time he turned it down. Again, you can complain all you want about Bush - but here's another example of Bush NOT being "fake" and standing by his convictions. Admirable, very admirable.

Why is Bush doing this, you say? I just saw an example of how badly the NAACP campaigned AGAINST Bush in 2000! (On CNN, I believe). They ran an ad that implied a black man was being dragged behind a truck & that "George W. Bush" was responsible simply because he didn't support Texas's proposed hate crime VERBIAGE when he was Governor. They then showed a panel of two different liberals who displayed obvious disgust in this tactic. Uh, yeah. I don't think I would accept any invitations without a public apology for that kind of hatred. Go Dubya!!!

But the NAACP is the voice of ALL people of color & Bush is obviously racist, NOT. That's why he appointed Colin Powell & Condoleeza Rice, to name a few great leaders of COLOR in his administration.

Give me a break.....

 

[Arturis]

"They preach racial neutrality and practice racial division ... their idea of reparations is to give war criminal Jefferson Davis a pardon," Mr. Bond said during his welcoming remarks. "Their idea of equal rights is the American flag and Confederate swastika flying side by side."
Mr. Bond, who in a 2001 speech compared conservatives to the Taliban, never specifically used the term Republicans but made the comments about those who control the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court.
"We are and always have been nonpartisan ... but being nonpartisan doesn't mean being noncritical. And it doesn't even mean criticizing all parties equally. If the Democrats were doing anything, we'd criticize them, too," Mr. Bond said.
Mr. Bond, a former Democratic state legislator in Georgia, also attacked President Bush's tax cuts, saying Mr. Bush signed a "death warrant for social programs for decades and decades to come."

-Washington Times

I wouldn't talk to this jackass if I was Bush either.

 

[the_cheat]

I'm with HumbleMan. It's fine if he doesn't want to go, but then he shouldn't go around claiming to be a great uniter in the Big Tent, etc. Uniting people means you're willing to at least listen to and acknowledge points and people with which you do not necessarily agree. This is called "opening a dialogue."

 

[charis]

Did you just ask me to back up my claim, then 30 seconds later post me asking why I didn't back it up?

because you're making claims you refuse to back up.

I was totally lying, Bush had a very productive discussion with the NAACP. They thought it was so productive that 4 years later they said he was 'trying to bring back the confederacy' and wants to 'raise the swatiska of the confederate flag'.

I'm not even going to bother to dig up an article on it. If you honestly saw it and believe they had a productive meeting, no article is going to convince you others.

it wasn't a meeting. it was a speech. I don't see how a speech can be unproductive.

It is pretty obvious you are trying to 'stump' me, as if if I didn't post an article, it would somehow prove the NAACP and Bush had a productive meeting.

hm...I always thought that someone making a claim should back it up. Your logic appears to have been reversed.

 

[charis]

What do you think they are full of? Are you honestly not familar with the expression?

well, if you're going to make accusations, make them and back them up.