Matter of Heaven

[Veinor]

We have the where, it comes from up above

Could you possibly be any vaguer?

Even if I told you where it was now, you couldn't find it, or see it.

Umm... everything exerts a gravitational field (even photons). So we could always detect it that way.

 

[dad]

Could you possibly be any vaguer?

Yes, a lot, like science that is totally clueless. I gave dimensions, materials, inhabitants, location in the universe soon, etc.

Umm... everything exerts a gravitational field (even photons). So we could always detect it that way.

Are you suggesting that things spiritual are photons? No, a photon is part of this PO universe. Can you find ghosts? No. In other words you are limited to the physical only, and this is not the true, eternal, created, permanent state. It is just a flash in the pan.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Yes, a lot, like science that is totally clueless. I gave dimensions, materials, inhabitants, location in the universe soon, etc.

You gave your spiritual beliefs on the nature of heaven. You offered no evidence for your claims (dimensions, materials, inhabitants, location, etc). Thus, it is not science. Thus, your claim in meaningless.

Are you suggesting that things spiritual are photons?

No, he was simply emphasising the point that all particles with mass generate a gravitational field. If your heaven is made of gold, then it is made of matter, which generates a gravitational force. Thus, we can detect it.

Can you find ghosts?

If they created an observable effect, yes.

 

[dad]

You gave your spiritual beliefs on the nature of heaven. You offered no evidence for your claims (dimensions, materials, inhabitants, location, etc). Thus, it is not science. Thus, your claim in meaningless.

No, because fishbowl physics is not the measure of things that are in the future, as heaven is when it comes here.
Therefore, rejoice oh ye people, because science can not say a thing about it! Though they rage like the waves on a stormy sea, they cannot lap on the shores of eternity!

No, he was simply emphasising the point that all particles with mass generate a gravitational field. If your heaven is made of gold, then it is made of matter, which generates a gravitational force. Thus, we can detect it.

No, because the matter of heaven does not have gravity as we know it. Can you imagine if it did, how that city would crash into earth coming here?! You just cannot impose the temporary laws of the PO on the real world to come!!!