Marxism, BLM, and LGBT in School Curriculum

[SeventyOne]

???

The post I quoted didnt say people should equal outcomes either.

Yea, it does, if you think about what it is stating. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about it. Either way, it's not anyway near the same as what the DoI states.

 

[thecolorsblend]

My kids never went to the government schools. But not all private schools are better. Pick your schools carefully or you may find that you have chosen an expensive version of what you were trying to avoid. This is true even of Catholic schools, where the odds are better but nothing is guaranteed.

I'm leaning towards Catholic school. One that's near here has my (relatively) full trust.

 

[durangodawood]

Yea, it does, if you think about what it is stating. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about it. Either way, it's not anyway near the same as what the DoI states.

You must be reading a lot of extra stuff into what he said.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Meh... This aint anything too new. In elementary school I learned about the abolitionist movement, the effects of boarding schools on the First Peoples of America (especially in my area), and the gay pride parade. When I received southern baptist curriculum from 7-12 grade I learned that Abraham Lincoln was the northern aggressor, evolution was something to be ignored in favor of creationism, and segregation was a perfectly normal element of life.

Everyone has a narrative, and they teach that narrative. Right or wrong, they want to influence the way you think as a child. No matter where you go, this is going to happen, and this is based on the agenda of those who teach. There's no such thing as an unbiased curriculum, though people cry foul when they see things being taught differently than they like. They want to control the way every child thinks, and they want to form their minds into like minded individuals.

They have no real interest in free thinking individuals. They try real hard to create an obedient member of their version of society that will quietly step in line. One thing I never learned in any k-12 schooling subjects were critical thinking skills, though. I had to learn those on my own. In higher education you can get better tools for critical thinking, and that's a goal of mine.

I'd love to take courses in philosophy, logic, and debate (though not for the sake of debate... I detest the process. It's useful to know the tactics folks use, though, and it helps in reading between the lines).

I grew up in PCC's A Beka curriculum with a bit of Bob Jones here and there, mostly in high school, and while I don't recall it being quite so extreme as to paint the north as the aggressors, it was still pretty much garbage.

On the subject of public school curricula, the Daughters of the Confederacy have had 150 years to push their historical revisionism in public schools. A little bit of BLM pushing in the other direction isn't that big a deal.

 

[LostMarbels]

On the subject of public school curricula, the Daughters of the Confederacy have had 150 years to push their historical revisionism in public schools. A little bit of BLM pushing in the other direction isn't that big a deal.

There is a little bit more to BLM than just police shootings, wouldn't you say? What kind of clout does it take to have this pull over curriculum? While in the meantime they are marching in the streets and everything from sports to entertainment is pushing their agenda.

 

[wing2000]

I'm trying to figure out how the murder of George Floyd turn into K-12 curriculum in public schools about gender studies and Black Liberation theology. Read my friend.

Have you figured it out yet? I look forward to the evidence of your assertions.

 

[iluvatar5150]

There is a little bit more to BLM than just police shootings, wouldn't you say? What kind of clout does it take to have this pull over curriculum? While in the meantime they are marching in the streets and everything from sports to entertainment is pushing their agenda.

Yes, there is more to it than just police shootings. As far as how much pull it takes, I'm not really sure how to answer that, but it seems to have gained a lot of traction, so I imagine it's got some legitimate leverage.

But again, the Daughters of the Confederacy have had 150 years to rewrite history and now that I think of it, far right Christians have been putting people on school boards for decades for the express purpose of influencing curricula. Those on the Texas Board of Education have an especially large sphere of influence given the size of Texas' school system and the way their market share influences what's available throughout the rest of the country.

 

[keith99]

Thats true. He said "everyone". Dec of Ind only says "all men".

If I recall correctly it says all men are created equal, not that they stay that way in all things. It then goes on to say they have some inalienable rights. It seems reasonable to conclude that they remain equal as to those rigths. While one of those rights is the pursuit of happiness it is not the ataining of happiness.

 

[keith99]

I'm all for Communism being taught in the schools...

As long as The Communist Manifesto is required reading for any class teaching it. Few better ways to make sure it gets rejected by the vast majority.

 

[LostMarbels]

Yes, there is more to it than just police shootings. As far as how much pull it takes, I'm not really sure how to answer that, but it seems to have gained a lot of traction, so I imagine it's got some legitimate leverage.

I'm interested in your view point of my own, being that these riots are just the push of a leftist agenda. I do not think BLM even cares about black communities or even police violence. That is just a catalyst they have used to cause upheaval during an election cycle. I do not think for one second all of this went down in a few months, and because a man was killed by a cop. They are using people. Getting entire school boards to use set curriculum took a year? Years?? So what are the riots about?

 

[durangodawood]

I'm all for Communism being taught in the schools...

As long as The Communist Manifesto is required reading for any class teaching it. Few better ways to make sure it gets rejected by the vast majority.

Communist Manifesto is not all that damning on its own.

Better to teach something like Czeslaw Milosz's The Captive Mind, or similar.

 

[Quartermaine]

Yep. Our system of government can only work when people have a common morality. The morality of today is none, so that is what we are getting-a government mandated system that will enforce only what is deemed acceptable behavior and belief. IMO, it was destined to fail over time.

isn't a government mandated system that enforces what is deemed acceptable behavior and belief exactly what conservatives want?

 

[Quartermaine]

The other thing I want to know is why are 2-year-olds being talked to about sexual orientation in Pre-K?

evidence?

 

[keith99]

Communist Manifesto is not all that damning on its own.

Better to teach something like Czeslaw Milosz's The Captive Mind, or similar.

It has been a long time since I read it. However I'm pretty sure in answering some criticisms of Comunism Marx made it quite clear that women were property and community property at that. I don't think too many women will like that aspect or all that many men who like an individual woman, be at as wife, sweethart or daughter.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I'm interested in your view point of my own, being that these riots are just the push of a leftist agenda. I do not think BLM even cares about black communities or even police violence. That is just a catalyst they have used to cause upheaval during an election cycle. I do not think for one second all of this went down in a few months, and because a man was killed by a cop. They are using people. Getting entire school boards to use set curriculum took a year? Years?? So what are the riots about?

I'm not sure what you're asking.

 

[wing2000]

I'm interested in your view point of my own, being that these riots are just the push of a leftist agenda. I do not think BLM even cares about black communities or even police violence. That is just a catalyst they have used to cause upheaval during an election cycle. I do not think for one second all of this went down in a few months, and because a man was killed by a cop. They are using people. Getting entire school boards to use set curriculum took a year? Years?? So what are the riots about?

...."all of this" started with a police man kneeling on a black man's neck for 8+ minutes. Or are you suggesting the police are in on the grand plan by the leftist?

 

[LostMarbels]

I'm not sure what you're asking.

Multiple things. This country is so racist a black 'grassroots' advocacy group has the ears of politicians and school boards across the nation. Even getting all the social media, entertainment, sports, and music industries to push their message. And if this is all about a guy that was killed by a cop... why the push for school curriculum to teach 2-year-olds about sexual orientation? There is a lot here that makes no sense if this movement is genuinely concerned about black lives.

 

[LostMarbels]

...."all of this" started with a police man kneeling on a black man's neck for 8+ minutes. Or are you suggesting the police are in on the grand plan by the leftist?

I'm asking how you link Floyd's death to curriculum and the agendized pushed for Green New Deal type socialism. How is any of that linked?

It honestly seems as if they just politicized his death by using the black communities emotions. One has nothing at all to do with the other.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Multiple things. This country is so racist a black 'grassroots' advocacy group has the ears of politicians and school boards across the nation. Even getting all the social media, entertainment, sports, and music industries to push their message.

I don't even know why you're asking this. Certain segments of the country and of popular culture tend to lean one way and certain segments tend to lean other ways. That pop culture tends to be more progressive on racial, gender, and LGBT issues doesn't mean that there aren't significant, sizeable chunks of the country that strongly lean the other direction. We liberals may have Hollywood, but you guys have control of the Executive branch, the Senate, about half of governorships and about 2/3 of statehouses.

And if this is all about a guy that was killed by a cop...

I don't know why you think this is about a single incident. It's not.

why the push for school curriculum to teach 2-year-olds about sexual orientation?

Where is this happening?

 

[BNR32FAN]

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The initiative began in Seattle, where teachers organized a “Black Lives Matter at School Day,” in October, 2016.... In 2018, school districts in more than 20 major cities, including New York, Philadelphia, Washington, DC, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and Seattle incorporated BLM at School Week into their curricula, and still more participated this year.

Incorporating BLM’s ideas into K-12 school curricula extends beyond one week of each school year. In a letter of support, BLM co-founder Opel Tometi describes the effort as “a new uprising for racial justice” in the nation’s schools.
https://nypost.com/2019/08/29/how-black-lives-matter-is-moving-into-the-schools/


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” Jessica Cunningham Akoto, CEO of the charter school network KIPP Philadelphia, wrote a letter outlining its new plan to focus on “learning mindsets and practices rooted in Black liberation.”

Black liberation is a Marxist theological and social movement that emerged in the late 1960s. It conceives of America as “systemically racist.” Accordingly, America’s institutions are also considered racist and as conceived to perpetuate racism. Moreover, in this view the entire construct of American culture, symbolically represented by the flag, national anthem, and even Philly’s own Liberty Bell, represents an insult to people of color.

Black Lives Matter In Public Schools Is Turning Kids Into Little Marxists


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*I am an immigrant who came from Korea. I serve many Korean families in Orange County through Children’s Ministries. Many Asians came here for a better life in America. Many risked their lives to escape a Communistic Regime. Communism uses propaganda to control people’s thinking. They control the media outlets and distort truth. They are mass manipulators for the sake of governmental oppression. They turn kids against their parents. I have lived in America for two decades and I can tell you, we are tip toeing on the edge of socialistic communism. This breaks my heart for America. The unions are behind these beliefs and yet teachers are too busy to notice. Teachers might think their union protects them, but when oppression ripens, no one is immune from its captivity. – Jinah Yi, Orange Unified School District parent, California.

The National and state teachers union endorses Black Lives Matter and their K-12 curriculum. Within the BLM curriculum are teachings that Gender is the child’s CHOICE based on the child’s feelings. These choices encompass: Boy, Girl, Both, Neither or SOMETHING ELSE. (the CDE says this choice can be made as young as TWO). The NEA partners with the Human Rights Campaign who has created preschool lessons teaching unlimited gender choices. The National Educators Association and ACSA (Administrators Calif School Association) recommend these “welcoming school” lessons for our primary school children.

California School Board Faces Ire of Parents After Teacher Reveals Shocking Union-Backed BLM Curriculum

This is exactly why I strongly detest the idea of parents not being allowed to “eaves drop” on their children while they’re doing the online schooling. I want my children to know what real anti racism is not BLM’s false interpretation of it. And I don’t want them buying into this stupid garbage that sexual gender is a choice. Yeah it’s a choice, it’s God’s choice not ours. A man with a surgically mutilated penis is not a woman and vice versa. I want my children to know the difference between God’s moral standards and man’s moral standards. Neither of these subjects should be taught in public schools. Teaching kids about the importance of equal rights is great, but BLM doesn’t advocate equal rights. They advocate privileged rights for people of color, not all races which is racism itself, and they promote terrorist activities as a means of accomplishing their agenda. “No peace no justice” is a misquote of brother Martin Luther King taken out of context. It was never intended as a threat or an ultimatum as BLM has implied. “There can be no justice without peace and there can be no peace without justice.” That’s what he actually said. BLM uses this as their slogan in an attempt to justify their advocation of the use of violence to reach their goals by force and terrorism in the community. Reverend Martin Luther King would’ve never advocated such behavior and was always urging for peaceful diplomatic solutions as opposed to forced cooperation as a result of violence. BLM has no place in our public schools. People need to stop laying down to these people and start upholding the law regardless of what BLM says or thinks whether they like it or not.