Left-Wing Jewish Leaders Shocked To Discover Their Liberal Friends Support Hamas

[stevil]

Actually, the Jewish peoples inhabited that land before Islam or Christianity were even a religion...going back to 2,000 BC

The Arab peoples didn't begin to move into that territory until the 7th century.

Obviously the Palestinians are understandably perturbed about the land transition, but it's basically the equivalent of if a bunch of people in America got mad because the government re-allocated some of the land back to Native Tribes that inhabited it hundred and hundreds of years before their ancestors even showed up on the shores.

So are you saying that the UN (England and UK) were just restoring Israel back to its original owners? From 4,000 years back?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

So are you saying that the UN (England and UK) were just restoring Israel back to its original owners? From 4,000 years back?

A portion of it... they basically carved out a piece of land the size of New Jersey to be a Jewish state (in the middle of 22 Arab states) to act as sort of a "safe haven"

And it technically wouldn't be to the "original owners", the original owners have obviously been dead for centuries. That portion was restored to the ethnic descendants of the people who originally lived there.

Keeping in mind, dismissing that premise would also logically mean we should dismiss any grievances native tribes have for wanting land back.

There's 3 possible ways to look at it:
1) The descendants of the original owners hold sway
2) Whoever conquered it last holds sway
3) We look at what makes sense on a case by case basis

I opt for option 3.

Options 1 & 2 seem to be popular & selectively interchangeable among people with strong self-contradicting opinions depending on "who's whiter".

 

[Bradskii]

A portion of it... they basically carved out a piece of land the size of New Jersey to be a Jewish state (in the middle of 22 Arab states) to act as sort of a "safe haven"

It's a bit larger these days...

 

[stevil]

A portion of it... they basically carved out a piece of land the size of New Jersey to be a Jewish state (in the middle of 22 Arab states) to act as sort of a "safe haven"

They had no right to do that.
Now take a look at a map and see how much of the area they have claimed?
Is it not expected that the Palastinians would be angry?

And it technically wouldn't be to the "original owners", the original owners have obviously been dead for centuries. That portion was restored to the ethnic descendants of the people who originally lived there.

We are all Africans if you ask me. All of humanity is descendant from Africans.
It makes no sense to go back to an arbitrary point and say these ethnic or religious group should have this land.
It makes less sense to me that a bunch of Europeans get to decide what happens in the Arab states against the will of the Arab nations.

And yeah, if you apply the logic that got the Jews into Israel after WWII then perhaps the Arab nations should give USA to the native American Indians.

Keeping in mind, dismissing that premise would also logically mean we should dismiss any grievances native tribes have for wanting land back.

There's 3 possible ways to look at it:
1) The descendants of the original owners hold sway
2) Whoever conquered it last holds sway
3) We look at what makes sense on a case by case basis

I opt for option 3.

Options 1 & 2 seem to be popular & selectively interchangeable among people with strong self-contradicting opinions depending on "who's whiter".

Option 3 is nonsense.
It was wrong for the European nations to take land from the Palastines and give it to the Jewish people.
There are many wrongs happening since with Israel continuing to attack and subdue the Palastinians and continuing to steal more and more land.
Also wrongs with Hamas attacking and bombing and taking as hostage the civilians.
It's all a horrible mess.

But it is wrong to blame the Palastine people, they are the biggest victims in this decades long story.

 

[Pommer]

It is totally understandable that the Palastinians feel like their land was robbed off them.
In 1947 and before there was no Jewish run Israel.

A bunch of white western men decided to take the land from the Palastinians and just give it to the Jewish people.
Why would the Palastinians be happy about that?
Why didn't the white western men give the Jewish people some of their land instead? Why not give them half of England, or half of USA?

Considering that Israel is about the size of the State of New Jersey, we ought to be able to find a nice tract of land out in Arizona (and/or New Mexico?) to wander around on?

 

[rjs330]

It is totally understandable that the Palastinians feel like their land was robbed off them.
In 1947 and before there was no Jewish run Israel.

A bunch of white western men decided to take the land from the Palastinians and just give it to the Jewish people.
Why would the Palastinians be happy about that?
Why didn't the white western men give the Jewish people some of their land instead? Why not give them half of England, or half of USA?

There was no Palestine. There was no run Palestine either. The land did not belong to them. Someone gave a very nice concise history lesson regarding all the people that had and controlled the land. The Jews had that land too many years ago. The Palestinians were offered the land as well and refused it. And they continue to refuse any and all offers to make a country. They would rather hate And kill Jews. Dumb way to live if you ask me. Look what's it's gotten them.

 

[rjs330]

Considering that Israel is about the size of the State of New Jersey, we ought to be able to find a nice tract of land out in Arizona (and/or New Mexico?) to wonder around on?

Why would we do that? The Jews had their land long ago. They have been the owners of it long before the Muslims came along. Why would you give it to the new comers who actually NEVER had it. That makes no sense.

 

[rjs330]

It makes less sense to me that a bunch of Europeans get to decide what happens in the Arab states against the will of the Arab nations.

Except it never was an Arab state.

 

[stevil]

They would rather hate And kill Jews. Dumb way to live if you ask me.

If you think its dumb, then its probably not true. It is probably just your mischaracterisation of them.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Hey, this is a two way street. Nobody is disagreeing with you. But bear that in mind when people are supporting the rights of Palestinians. You know, the ones that don't support Hamas.

When Hamas paraded a half naked hostage through the streets...the Palestinian people didn't cry out about how they should stop or condemn them for how horrible it was, they cheered and beat her.

I'm sure there are Palestinians outside Gaza who don't support Hamas....but who cares? They aren't being bombed. They aren't in danger.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Here's Johnathan Greenblatt illustrating perfectly the realization of the left wing Jewish community...

He's tired of "cancel culture" the hypocrisy of "safe spaces" and surprised to find that Jewish people are at the bottom of the "oppression pyramid" (you know, with white people).

I don't know if he's imagining we all have the memories of goldfish. He's been supporting all these things fervently for about 8 years now. Talking about voting against you own interests.

I would explain to Mr Greenblatt that to the left...he's white. He's a colonizer. He's the problem he's been fighting against lol. There's only a tiny sliver of genuine racists on the right that don't consider him white. As a white person, the left will never sympathize with you and your problems. You are the problem to the left. You're at the bottom of the oppression pyramid with the white men and women.

Remember when Gabby Petito went missing and suddenly white women thought they would get to talk about domestic violence against them? And then out of the blue, the left changed it to a conversation about black girls not getting enough attention? It's like that.

As a white person, your problems don't matter to the left, and never will. To them, you don't deserve sympathy.

 

[rjs330]

If you think its dumb, then its probably not true. It is probably just your mischaracterisation of them.

Sorry it's been a proven fact. They've been attacking Israel since it's conception. And teaching their children too as well through their education and media. So no it's not a mischaracterization at all.

 

[rjs330]

Here's Johnathan Greenblatt illustrating perfectly the realization of the left wing Jewish community...

He's tired of "cancel culture" the hypocrisy of "safe spaces" and surprised to find that Jewish people are at the bottom of the "oppression pyramid" (you know, with white people).

I don't know if he's imagining we all have the memories of goldfish. He's been supporting all these things fervently for about 8 years now. Talking about voting against you own interests.

I would explain to Mr Greenblatt that to the left...he's white. He's a colonizer. He's the problem he's been fighting against lol. There's only a tiny sliver of genuine racists on the right that don't consider him white. As a white person, the left will never sympathize with you and your problems. You are the problem to the left. You're at the bottom of the oppression pyramid with the white men and women.

Remember when Gabby Petito went missing and suddenly white women thought they would get to talk about domestic violence against them? And then out of the blue, the left changed it to a conversation about black girls not getting enough attention? It's like that.

As a white person, your problems don't matter to the left, and never will. To them, you don't deserve sympathy.

Yes the left is solidly functioning along the lines of oppressed and oppressor. All they view as oppressors must be out down and the oppressed must be elevated. And in their modem white people are ALWAYS the oppressor. He has been speaking about this for a while. He shouldn't be surprised at the left turning on the Jews as oppressors. They are seen as white. He's getting a taste of his own medicine. And if he needs to know more about it he should go meet the leftist protestors who would probably beat him up.

 

[stevil]

Sorry it's been a proven fact. They've been attacking Israel since it's conception. And teaching their children too as well through their education and media. So no it's not a mischaracterization at all.

If the Arab nations decided to give a state or many states of USA to the native American Indians, don't you think the USA folk that used to live in that state might start complaining and perhaps even fighting for decades to try and get those American Indians out and hence get their land back?

It's not because they hate Texans (for example) its that they want their land back.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If the Arab nations decided to give a state or many states of USA to the native American Indians,

If the US ceded that terroritory to some Arab nation after a long war with them....as the Ottoman Empire ceded Palestine to the British, then yes...it's absolutely their land to do whatever they please with it.

don't you think the USA folk that used to live in that state might start complaining and perhaps even fighting for decades to try and get those American Indians out and hence get their land back?

It's not because they hate Texans (for example) its that they want their land back.

 

[Vanellus]

Actually, the Jewish peoples inhabited that land before Islam or Christianity were even a religion...going back to 2,000 BC

The Arab peoples didn't begin to move into that territory until the 7th century.

Obviously the Palestinians are understandably perturbed about the land transition, but it's basically the equivalent of if a bunch of people in America got mad because the government re-allocated some of the land back to Native Tribes that inhabited it hundred and hundreds of years before their ancestors even showed up on the shores.

And the same question could be asked right now in the other direction, why aren't other countries like Egypt and Lebanon offering to bring Palestinians in and give them some land in their countries? (there's actually several different answers to that question...a few of them would be politically incorrect to say out loud)

Could it be that that would be accepting the Israeli fait accompli an they think Palestine should belong to the Palestinians. The Jews were not the original inhabitants according to the Bible,

 

[rjs330]

If the Arab nations decided to give a state or many states of USA to the native American Indians, don't you think the USA folk that used to live in that state might start complaining and perhaps even fighting for decades to try and get those American Indians out and hence get their land back?

It's not because they hate Texans (for example) its that they want their land back.

You keep missing the point that it wasn't their land to begin with. Yes they hate Jews. The vast majority of Gazans supported Hamas' attacks in the Jews.

 

[rjs330]

Could it be that that would be accepting the Israeli fait accompli an they think Palestine should belong to the Palestinians. The Jews were not the original inhabitants according to the Bible,

No cause these Palestine were not the original inhabitants either. This land was controlled by many different groups and then the Jews came a long. And had the land taken away from them several times and then got it back again. Then the Romans took it, eventually the Ottomans and then the British. So this land did not belong to anyone group. The Jews got a piece of it back from the British eventually and the Palestinians should have been satisfied with their piece. Instead they decided to hate on the Jews and try and wipe them out.

The Jew hatred is very wrong. And not just in Palestine. That much is obvious.

 

[ViaCrucis]

smh

You posted:
"A recent poll found that 70% of Democrats support giving more aid to Palestinians in Gaza"
"Leaders Shocked To Discover Their Liberal Friends Support Hamas"

Palestinians ≠ Hamas

That's where you perpetuate confusion/dishonesty.

I don't think confusion fits here. I don't think people are confused when they make no distinction between Palestinians and Hamas. I think they know exactly what they are doing.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[FenderTL5]

I don't think confusion fits here. I don't think people are confused when they make no distinction between Palestinians and Hamas. I think they know exactly what they are doing.

-CryptoLutheran

There are Palestinians living in Gaza who are not Hamas.
I have friends who are Palestianian Christians, with family members living in the region. One of the oldest Orthodox Churches in the world was partially destroyed by Israeli bombing in Gaza. The church has no association with Hamas, but it was Palestinian. I can support them, oppose war and violence from all parties, and not necessarily be anti-semitic.
I make a distinction between palestinian and Hamas whether others are able to do so or not. That's because there is a distinction whether others acknowledge it or not.